Is there value in always betting on teams from Utah?

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  • TheCentaur
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-28-11
    • 8108

    #1
    Is there value in always betting on teams from Utah?
    Especially in college sports?

    I was thinking in college sports, a disproportionate amount of action comes from the team's home states. Granted there is plenty of action across the country on all teams, but the home states of the participants must have a significant effect.

    Since at least 63% of Utah is Mormon, and Mormons don't gamble, at least definitely not big money, wouldn't that create value on Utah teams?

    Anyone have some data on Utah teams, especially BYU, ATS over the years?
  • ProfaneReality
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-14-09
    • 7607

    #2
    From memory, Utah (ncaab) was putrid last year ATS, and even worse overall
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    • TheCentaur
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      • 06-28-11
      • 8108

      #3
      Originally posted by ProfaneReality
      From memory, Utah (ncaab) was putrid last year ATS, and even worse overall
      I'm talking long term though all sports, but mainly college where local team money is a more significant %
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      • HoulihansTX
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-12-09
        • 30566

        #4
        Ever heard of a Captain Mormon?
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        • ProfaneReality
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          • 04-14-09
          • 7607

          #5
          If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying money bet on local teams moves lines?

          Going to have to strongly disagree.
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          • MeatWad
            SBR MVP
            • 01-18-12
            • 1572

            #6
            I will definitely be backing BYU in situational spots this year.
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            • TheCentaur
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-28-11
              • 8108

              #7
              Originally posted by ProfaneReality
              If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying money bet on local teams moves lines?

              Going to have to strongly disagree.
              Right, I'm saying if for example there was no internet of any kind in say Kansas on saturday, the effect on South Florida/Nevada game would be minimal, but it might skew the line of the Kansas/Rice game.

              Just a theory, maybe ur right and it has very little to no effect
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22291

                #8
                Only at home, but it has nothing to do with gambling money it is a primarily white teams play better at home theory.
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                • Emily_Haines
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-09
                  • 15917

                  #9
                  Utah State, BYU and Utah

                  Apparently so

                  Throw out the games where the teams played each other

                  73-56-2 ATS last five seasons
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                  • TheCentaur
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-28-11
                    • 8108

                    #10
                    Emily we're on to something here

                    I would cut off a finger to go 73-56
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                    • TheCentaur
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-28-11
                      • 8108

                      #11
                      Somebody back test it 5 more years and let's see what we've got here
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                      • Romanov
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-08-10
                        • 4137

                        #12
                        No guarantee it will continue into the future
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                        • TheCentaur
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-28-11
                          • 8108

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Romanov
                          No guarantee it will continue into the future
                          Very true, but backtesting it another 5 years and a logical explanation for the results is about as much as we can hope for
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                          • Romanov
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-08-10
                            • 4137

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheCentaur
                            Very true, but backtesting it another 5 years and a logical explanation for the results is about as much as we can hope for
                            Agreed. I don't have the time to do this right now, but maybe this weekend if nobody gets to it.
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                            • TheCentaur
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-28-11
                              • 8108

                              #15
                              ok so I back tested from 2006 to 1997 and the record ATS was 123-132-4
                              Once you get back towards the 90's there were more games with no lines thus the relative decrease in events.

                              This brings the grand total to 196-188-6

                              Not profitable even with reduced juice
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                              • InTheDrink
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-23-09
                                • 23983

                                #16
                                one semi related theory that would make sense is that if you live in an area with strong backing for a particular school(s) then you might find a local who will move lines a little quicker against the school than an online book or vegas...then youd have an edge to play the other way

                                this used to happen a lot more than it does now before everyone was online
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                                • gojetsgomoxies
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-04-12
                                  • 4222

                                  #17
                                  i like the theory but i think a fair number of the utah schools games would have been against lower population areas...

                                  now that utah is in pac 10 maybe utah ATS vs. USC would make sense. or vs. a number of other pac 10 teams

                                  i do like the white teams do relatively better at home argument.

                                  and i have always been curious as to whether mountain region teams build their roster to take advantage of the home field altitude (see mexico's national soccer team record in mexico city). have to admit that i don't know how how alot of places out west actually are. but if they have decent elevation and they aren't grabbing scat back types from california and texas then they are missing out.
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