Who gets the better deal? Big move that I want to make.
Points for agreeing with me and not knowing it.
infamousbacardi
SBR MVP
03-16-08
4556
#2
I think S. Jackson is better end of deal right now. He is still a huge part of that offense and a proven commodity. Richardson hasn't even taken a snap in pre-season, so who knows not only if he'll be healthy, but also how productive he'll be even if he is healthy!
I'm going w/ the proven commodity here easy. IMHO.
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ProfaneReality
SBR Hall of Famer
04-14-09
7607
#3
Whoever gets Stephen Jackson is getting the better end of that deal, and it's not close.
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Easy-Rider 66
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02-14-12
36895
#4
Would take Jackson easily at this point.
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Ghenghis Kahn
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
19736
#5
i would take trent richardson just for his adp vs steven jackson. it all depends who you have on your team. trent richardson has more upside but you know what you are getting with steven jackson. if you don't have a rb2 potential on your bench i'd stick with steven jackson but if you have someone on your bench with rb2 potential, i'd definitely take richardson since i like to gamble...
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BigDeem5
SBR Posting Legend
02-26-11
17191
#6
Trent Richardson is behind a team that will be trailing in many games. He may have a couple 80 yds and 1 TD games...
Bradford has looked a lot better, S Jax always get yards, but never TDs. Now, Bradford will move them into red zone, I see S JAX being very good this year
S Jackson is a top 10 RB
Rich prob 20
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Marauders
SBR MVP
07-23-09
1072
#7
I have to go with the more proven guy right now in S. Jackson. BOL in your draft!
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#8
Originally posted by infamousbacardi
I think S. Jackson is better end of deal right now. He is still a huge part of that offense and a proven commodity. Richardson hasn't even taken a snap in pre-season, so who knows not only if he'll be healthy, but also how productive he'll be even if he is healthy!
I'm going w/ the proven commodity here easy. IMHO.
My thoughts exactly. That and I can easily handcuff S.Jax. Also in the much easier defensive conference. Also - Jackson is a solid receiving threat, meaning even if they are behind - they don't abandon him completely.
T.Rich has upside, but I hate rookie RB's. And this is a 14 team league - so unfortunately this is for my RB1. Want proven commodity.
I am stacked at WR: Jones, Harvin, Dez, Torrey Smith.
RB's: T.Rich (soon to be S.Jax), Greene, Brown, Ridley, Mendenhall, (soon to be Pead).
I feel this move can really help solidify a playoff contender.
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#9
Originally posted by ProfaneReality
Whoever gets Stephen Jackson is getting the better end of that deal, and it's not close.
No idea why I can't give you the point.
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Ghenghis Kahn
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
19736
#10
well looking at your team, steven jackson is the better option. just wondering why did you draft richardson in the second round when you coulda got jackson in the third round...
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388208
#11
Jackson much better
He basically is whole team when healthy
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infamousbacardi
SBR MVP
03-16-08
4556
#12
Ridley good sleeper this year...your team looks pretty good, in particular if you add S-Jax
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jrmartin.mig
SBR Wise Guy
11-29-10
624
#13
Find out who took Doug Martin and try and convince them to dump for either one of them. He will be a great sleeper pick.
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19th Hole
SBR Posting Legend
03-22-09
18389
#14
Jackson....
Action on Jackson.
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RyanLeafOfBets
SBR Hall of Famer
01-03-10
8164
#15
It depends... if you're getting Richardson, do you have enough RB depth where you can sit him week 1 and possibly week 2 until he's 100%?
I think from week 3 on, Richardson could have a better year. However, Jackson apparently is in the best shape of his life.
I'd prefer to have Jackson personally, but I think Richardson will have a very solid year as well.
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Ghenghis Kahn
SBR Posting Legend
01-02-12
19736
#16
Originally posted by jrmartin.mig
Find out who took Doug Martin and try and convince them to dump for either one of them. He will be a great sleeper pick.
how can you call him a sleeper when he's going in the 3rd round? sleepers are more like rbs picked after the 6th round.
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Bcatswin
SBR Posting Legend
12-21-10
13931
#17
I wouldn't touch T Rich at this point, would definitely stick with S Jack. You know what u get with him. If he stays healthy he is a top 4 RB in the league.
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#18
Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
well looking at your team, steven jackson is the better option. just wondering why did you draft richardson in the second round when you coulda got jackson in the third round...
That is exactly what happened. I had to do wedding shit, and as a result had some guy draft for me - he did the first 4 rds and then I showed up.
The guy who drafted for me is the guy I am trading. He views it as getting my 2nd rd for his 3rd rd pick.
Rankings be damned and draft be damned - I view S.Jax as an upgrade. I bet the league is going to have a shit fit though.
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ChalkyDog
SBR Hall of Famer
10-02-11
9598
#19
Originally posted by RyanLeafOfBets
It depends... if you're getting Richardson, do you have enough RB depth where you can sit him week 1 and possibly week 2 until he's 100%?
I think from week 3 on, Richardson could have a better year. However, Jackson apparently is in the best shape of his life.
I'd prefer to have Jackson personally, but I think Richardson will have a very solid year as well.
This is just it - my RB situation is garbage. I am stock piled with a bunch of RB 3's and a fringe RB 2 in Greene.
I am really high on Jackson this year - have him ranked 8th.
The other choices I could have traded for were Adrian Peterson or Ryan Matthews. Both amazing talents - both not exactly the people I want to count on as my RB1. Jackson I am fine with.
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Wrigley
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12-28-07
7268
#20
I would take Jackson no questions asked
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Andy117
SBR Hall of Famer
02-07-10
9511
#21
SJax unless it's a keeper.
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gamble
SBR MVP
06-30-10
1087
#22
definitely sjax in my opinion, a lot of people are down on him but he has been very consistent for years now. I am a Rams fan but the rams leading all time rusher would be the call for me and its not that close
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C-Gold
SBR Hall of Famer
09-04-10
6808
#23
Chalky I read some of your comments in another thread and I had to say "this guy gets it". You know your stuff and I wanted to complement you. In reality you are asking lesser people for an opinion and you should probably trust your own judgement.
Jackson is obviously a better option. I think the Rams should be competitive this year with Fisher as a head coach and Bradford coming back. The Browns have no shot this year, they won't even compete.
Neither guys really has a backup that should push him which is good.
StL offense should be better.
I saw somebody breakdown the performance of RB's drafted in the top 10 over the past decade or so. Even though ESPN might give all these guys accolades, "best RB in a generation etc.", top 10 RB's don't have the production to match. Those guys were all "studs" at a transferable position. The odds are against Richardson.
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Resler
SBR MVP
11-03-10
1417
#24
Depends if it is a keeper league or not. Keeper league it is T. Rich and not even close.
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TPowell
SBR Posting Legend
02-21-08
18842
#25
very equal players IMO, I'd lean towards Richardson but his health is a concern
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Goat Milk
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03-24-10
25850
#26
Originally posted by TPowell
very equal players IMO, I'd lean towards Richardson but his health is a concern
equal players? LOL right.
Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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InTheDrink
SBR Posting Legend
11-23-09
23983
#27
sjax not the same player he used to be but can knock down a three when you need a big shot
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onlooker
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08-10-05
36572
#28
Steven Jackson. Teams will stack the box against the Browns. Plus Trent Richardson already having knee issues. You will also have a better handcuff in Isaiah Pead.