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  • seaborneq
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    • 09-08-06
    • 22556

    #71
    Originally posted by greenhippo
    Hardly depending on him. Texans D is 10X better than anything in the division, they have by far the best QB and RB in that division.


    Really now? The NFL's leading rusher was in the AFC South, but he didn't play for Houston. And Luck won't be worse than Gabbert, so Hasselback is the leading passer returning in the division.
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    • acl123
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      • 03-17-11
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      #72
      chris johnsons worst year by far

      foster-1,224
      johnson-1,047
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      • suicidekings
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        • 03-23-09
        • 9962

        #73
        Originally posted by Titan_12
        Green = Wins
        Red = Losses

        10-6
        7 games listed with spreads less than a FG (+/-) and you have them going 5-2. And then them winning 3 games outright as +3/+3.5 dogs. Isn't that a fairly generous assumption? Going 8-2 in close matchups?
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        • Titan_12
          SBR MVP
          • 02-19-11
          • 1186

          #74
          Originally posted by suicidekings
          7 games listed with spreads less than a FG (+/-) and you have them going 5-2. And then them winning 3 games outright as +3/+3.5 dogs. Isn't that a fairly generous assumption? Going 8-2 in close matchups?
          Yes that would be correct sir, spreads will change. +3/+3.5 isn't set in stone, just a projection
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          • suicidekings
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            • 03-23-09
            • 9962

            #75
            Originally posted by acl123
            chris johnsons worst year by far

            foster-1,224
            johnson-1,047
            You forgot about Ben Tate - 942 yards. Foster and Tate will run for more yards than Johnson and any other RB on the Titans team.
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            • suicidekings
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              • 03-23-09
              • 9962

              #76
              Originally posted by Titan_12
              Yes that would be correct sir, spreads will change. +3/+3.5 isn't set in stone, just a projection
              Not set in stone, but Cantor isn't just throwing these numbers out there either. Midas is pretty sharp, and although they will definitely get a few individual games dead wrong over the course of the season, I would be shocked if they had completely mispriced the Titans team as a whole to the degree that you're suggesting. We're still sitting at 7 wins in the season totals at Pinny, which is 3 full games off your number. When you disagree with Pinnacle by that much, 99 times out of 100, you're going to be wrong.
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              • Titan_12
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                • 02-19-11
                • 1186

                #77
                Originally posted by suicidekings
                Not set in stone, but Cantor isn't just throwing these numbers out there either. Midas is pretty sharp, and although they will definitely get a few individual games dead wrong over the course of the season, I would be shocked if they had completely mispriced the Titans team as a whole to the degree that you're suggesting. We're still sitting at 7 wins in the season totals at Pinny, which is 3 full games off your number. When you disagree with Pinnacle by that much, 99 times out of 100, you're going to be wrong.
                Probably right man, but a Titan fan can dream can't he? Those games aren't locks for loses either, I expect the Titans to make the playoffs, whether it's a 10 win season or 9. I think they get in, although I don't think they'll win the division
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                • suicidekings
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                  • 03-23-09
                  • 9962

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Titan_12
                  Probably right man, but a Titan fan can dream can't he? Those games aren't locks for loses either, I expect the Titans to make the playoffs, whether it's a 10 win season or 9. I think they get in, although I don't think they'll win the division
                  From a sports fan perspective, I understand. But as a bettor, being passionate about your favourite team skews your perspective horribly. Good luck with your team, but temper your bets on them.
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                  • acl123
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                    • 03-17-11
                    • 5896

                    #79
                    Originally posted by suicidekings
                    From a sports fan perspective, I understand. But as a bettor, being passionate about your favourite team skews your perspective horribly. Good luck with your team, but temper your bets on them.
                    Your a %100 correct.
                    I rarely ever bet on my team.
                    SUPERBOWL HERE WE COME.
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                    • ThaTopMoron
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                      • 04-30-10
                      • 27023

                      #80
                      Titans?

                      Colts are going to win the division MARK IT DOWN
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                      • SteelRain
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                        • 03-13-12
                        • 2806

                        #81
                        texans will dominate this division for the next 5 years
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                        • greenhippo
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                          • 02-15-12
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by seaborneq
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                          Really now? The NFL's leading rusher was in the AFC South, but he didn't play for Houston. And Luck won't be worse than Gabbert, so Hasselback is the leading passer returning in the division.
                          Wow I hope you have never and never will bet on football.

                          MJD: 123.8 yfs per game
                          Foster: 141.6 yfs per game

                          MJD has foster beat by 139 total yards last year PLAYING 3 MORE GAMES.

                          Foster puts up better numbers in 14 games than MJD does in 16 games. Yeah, I think I'll go with foster.

                          Hasselback, do we want to discuss his 18/14 TD to int ratio compared to schaubs 15/6? Or his 84 QB rating to schaubs 97? Or maybe his 223 pyg compared to schaubs 248?

                          Coming in here with your "really now" you just got buried kid. Never post about football again.
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                          • greenhippo
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                            • 02-15-12
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by acl123
                            chris johnsons worst year by far

                            foster-1,224
                            johnson-1,047
                            Johnson: 1465 all purpose yards in 16 games
                            Foster: 1841 all purpose yards in 13 games

                            I agree, those numbers are awful close.
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                            • LT Profits
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #84
                              Originally posted by paco
                              Chris Johnson averaged a whopping 1.4 yards a carry last season.



                              I don't think he broke a 100 yards till like his 8th game. Goat is correct, teams have figured lil Wayne out
                              Jonson will be one of the few good things about Tennessee this year. Remember he held out last year and he was fat (Fat with an F, not a PH...LOL) when he did report, so he was slow as . This year, he participated in the Titans' off-season conditioning program for the first time in his career, so I expect him to be closer to his 2010 form.
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                              • k13
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                                • 07-16-10
                                • 18130

                                #85
                                I saw that MGM opened Titans at 8.0 and 5dimes had 8.5 early.
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                                • seaborneq
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                                  • 09-08-06
                                  • 22556

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by greenhippo
                                  Wow I hope you have never and never will bet on football.

                                  MJD: 123.8 yfs per game
                                  Foster: 141.6 yfs per game

                                  MJD has foster beat by 139 total yards last year PLAYING 3 MORE GAMES.

                                  Foster puts up better numbers in 14 games than MJD does in 16 games. Yeah, I think I'll go with foster.

                                  Hasselback, do we want to discuss his 18/14 TD to int ratio compared to schaubs 15/6? Or his 84 QB rating to schaubs 97? Or maybe his 223 pyg compared to schaubs 248?

                                  Coming in here with your "really now" you just got buried kid. Never post about football again.
                                  Did you see Blaine gabbert play last year? What mjd did playing with jaguars was much more impressive than what foster did playing for a balanced offense and great defense. Matt schaub hasn't been a gunslinger in a few years and is more a game manager now that the texans can run the ball with the best of all teams. So no schaub is not necessarily better than steady hasselback.
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                                  • therushishere
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-21-12
                                    • 713

                                    #87
                                    What Foster and Tate are about to do to the NFL this year has not been done in a long time, if ever.
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                                    • acl123
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                                      • 03-17-11
                                      • 5896

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by paco
                                      Chris Johnson averaged a whopping 1.4 yards a carry last season.



                                      I don't think he broke a 100 yards till like his 8th game. Goat is correct, teams have figured lil Wayne out
                                      If you watched every game like i did you would see that the o-line was horriffic at run blocking.CJ had nothinh to work with.Im expecting a big year from CJ in his 2nd year with Munchack,Matthews and Palmer.
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                                      • seaborneq
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-08-06
                                        • 22556

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by greenhippo
                                        Wow I hope you have never and never will bet on football.

                                        MJD: 123.8 yfs per game
                                        Foster: 141.6 yfs per game

                                        MJD has foster beat by 139 total yards last year PLAYING 3 MORE GAMES.

                                        Foster puts up better numbers in 14 games than MJD does in 16 games. Yeah, I think I'll go with foster.

                                        Hasselback, do we want to discuss his 18/14 TD to int ratio compared to schaubs 15/6? Or his 84 QB rating to schaubs 97? Or maybe his 223 pyg compared to schaubs 248?

                                        Coming in here with your "really now" you just got buried kid. Never post about football again.
                                        Jags had the worse offense in football last year, fewest yards and fewest passing yards, yet MJD led the league in rushing. Yet Ben Tate nearly had a thousand yards running behind the same offensive line as Foster and you think Foster is the greatest thing since sliced bread? Look before you leap.
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                                        • greenhippo
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                                          • 02-15-12
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                                          #90
                                          What were the Jags going to do? Throw the ball? They could do nothing but rush. Foster catches balls in the back field and puts up Ray Rice type receiving yards, MJD can't/won't do that, it limits him immensely. If you limited Foster to strictly rushes, he's not a top 3 back, I won't even argue that. But total numbers and what he gives you both on the ground and in the air, it's hard to argue he's not only the best in the division but the best in the league.
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                                          • LT Profits
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                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by seaborneq
                                            Jags had the worse offense in football last year, fewest yards and fewest passing yards, yet MJD led the league in rushing. Yet Ben Tate nearly had a thousand yards running behind the same offensive line as Foster and you think Foster is the greatest thing since sliced bread? Look before you leap.
                                            Let's not get carried away now, Foster is one of the three best all around RBs in the NFL. I'd say CJ is a top 7 or 8.
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                                            • seaborneq
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-08-06
                                              • 22556

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by greenhippo
                                              What were the Jags going to do? Throw the ball? They could do nothing but rush. Foster catches balls in the back field and puts up Ray Rice type receiving yards, MJD can't/won't do that, it limits him immensely. If you limited Foster to strictly rushes, he's not a top 3 back, I won't even argue that. But total numbers and what he gives you both on the ground and in the air, it's hard to argue he's not only the best in the division but the best in the league.
                                              Jags couldn't throw so all the focus is on MJD. Tie one arm behind your back and tape your ankles together then fight someone with both arms and both legs and see how much harder it is.
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                                              • seaborneq
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                                                • 09-08-06
                                                • 22556

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                Let's not get carried away now, Foster is one of the three best all around RBs in the NFL. I'd say CJ is a top 7 or 8.
                                                Ben Tate must be too. He had better production as Foster in games he started. In games in which Ben Tate had 12 or more carries he had 680 on 122 carries at 5.6 per rush, that is better than Foster average per game and per carry.
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                                                • chopperocker
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                                                  • 08-16-09
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                                                  #94
                                                  cuz the Texans will win more than 7 games.
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                                                  • LT Profits
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                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                    Ben Tate must be too. He had better production as Foster in games he started. In games in which Ben Tate had 12 or more carries he had 680 on 122 carries at 5.6 per rush, that is better than Foster average per game and per carry.
                                                    So you are saying that if Foster and CJ are both available in the first round of a fantasy league, you would take CJ? If the answer is yes, do you want to be in my league?
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                                                    • seaborneq
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-08-06
                                                      • 22556

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                      So you are saying that if Foster and CJ are both available in the first round of a fantasy league, you would take CJ? If the answer is yes, do you want to be in my league?
                                                      Yes. I will take the guy with the least lethal backup.
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                                                      • CanuckG
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                                                        • 12-23-10
                                                        • 21978

                                                        #97
                                                        Titans lock it up
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                                                        • ShawNee922
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                                                          • 04-22-08
                                                          • 469

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by acl123
                                                          mike being a life long fan i can tell you they are always under valued by the books.
                                                          those spreads dont mean a thing right know.We dont even know who will be the starting qb

                                                          Yet you already know they will go 12-4 ... lol .
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                                                          • seaborneq
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-08-06
                                                            • 22556

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by k13
                                                            You still want that o/u of double-digit wins like you mentioned last year?
                                                            Is that the bet I wanted? Let me go in the archives to see what I really said or really meant.
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                                                            • GunShard
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                                                              • 03-05-10
                                                              • 10033

                                                              #100
                                                              Texan's offense, defense and special teams.
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                                                              • Sledge187
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                                                                • 04-25-08
                                                                • 3722

                                                                #101
                                                                Foster is the best running back in the division but I have to admit MJD is pretty dam good. I hate him when he plays my Texans but man I love seeing that guy run. The Texans will win the division but it be interesting how the rest of the division shapes up.
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                                                                • boeing power
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                                                                  • 03-23-10
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                                                                  #102
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                                                                  • CanuckG
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                                                                    • 12-23-10
                                                                    • 21978

                                                                    #103
                                                                    No QB. Receivers are mediocre. Johnson has no O-line to block. Defense is sub-par. Coach sucks.
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                                                                    • seaborneq
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-08-06
                                                                      • 22556

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Titans might get the number 1 pick this year in 2013. Very very bad.
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                                                                      • acl123
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                                                                        • 03-17-11
                                                                        • 5896

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Boy was i wrong.
                                                                        WTF
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