Question: Why Doesnt Barack Obama Just Release His Birth Certificate And Get It Over

[greenhippo]

Obama's tax rates are no where near all time highs and Reagan increased the debt and deficit. You're wrong on both points.

Carpe should either never post on this subject again or get a laugh at a good joke.

[MC PICKS]

Well being the great lib that I am I do disagree with Romney on his policy proposals. My main disagreements are his spending ideas like increasing military spending. Not thrilled with his ideas regarding personal liberties either. Some of his other proposals I'm really not sure about because in all honesty he's been on both sides of so many issues.

I do think if you're running for POTUS you should be open and honest about your taxes. I think everyone who's run for POTUS has released several years. I'm not sure why Romney doesn't. He released one year and part of another. But both were filed clearly after he decided to run it begs the question what kind of taxes did he pay prior to realizing he was running for POTUS? If it's all on the up and up why doesn't he release them (I think he will and they'll show there was nothing to hide, I think he's playing politics on this issue) and show people he's followed the law all along.

But, again being the big lib that I am, I think Obama should release his school records and exactly how he paid for school. If the POTUS lied to get special treatment to attend colleges then I think the US voting public has a right to know about it.

Then again I don't think wither man deserves the office.

One year is all that is legally required of him. If others released more than thats fine but mitt is only doing what is legally required. It goes back to the old saying that if everyone was jumping off a bridge would you do it too. Your arguement that everyone else released more is ridiculous, if they chose to do that then fine but it wasnt required. Romney is not my 1st choice for repub nomination but like ive stated before anybody else is better than the current occupant of the white house. Anybody.

[King Mayan]

Do these crybaby neo clowns ever get new talking points??

Rush you Oxy addict, get some new material, your sheep are looking stupid by the minute..

[Hotdiggity11]

If they want his tax returns sooooo bad then this deal makes perfect sense. Obama is hiding something big from his college years. America never got to vet this president because the main stream media hugs his nuts.

Tingly feeling down his leg chris matthews is the biggest nuthugger of them all.

No, it's hardly a "perfect deal" as I already explained.

A perfect deal would be for Romney to release his tax returns dating back to 2000 and his school returns and Obama releases his school records. Then, they would have both released the same things.


How is Obama the guy who "hasn't been vetted" when he has released more personal records than Romney has?

[Hotdiggity11]

taxes at all-time high with obama

^Top income marginal tax rate.

[Baseballboy1220]

Birth

Wasn't the certificate of birth proven fake?

but he's still president

[muldoon]

jbart28
If they want his tax returns sooooo bad then this deal makes perfect sense. Obama is hiding something big from his college years. America never got to vet this president because the main stream media hugs his nuts.

Romney has made an issue in previous campaigns (2002 and 1994) demanding that his opponents release their tax returns.

Show me where Obama has done the same with school/birth records and then you're comparing apples to apples.

[stevenash]

but he's still president

Just for 94 more days.

[Tully Mars 63]

One year is all that is legally required of him. If others released more than thats fine but mitt is only doing what is legally required. It goes back to the old saying that if everyone was jumping off a bridge would you do it too. Your arguement that everyone else released more is ridiculous, if they chose to do that then fine but it wasnt required. Romney is not my 1st choice for repub nomination but like ive stated before anybody else is better than the current occupant of the white house. Anybody.

Really? There's a law that says each candidate for POTUS must release one year of tax returns? Could you please point out that federal statute or law for me because I've never heard of it. Sounds like some crap Rush Limbaugh pulled out of his ass.

And really anyone but Obama? So if Rosie O'Donnell were running you'd vote for her? I call bull shit.

[DwightShrute]

And really anyone but Obama? So if Rosie O'Donnell were running you'd vote for her? I call bull shit.

absolutely. my old dust buster would be also a better choice.

[King Mayan]

^^^ how can a Canadian living in costa rica, call Obama the worst president ever???

you can't make this shit up.

[DwightShrute]

just stating facts King

[MC PICKS]

Really? There's a law that says each candidate for POTUS must release one year of tax returns? Could you please point out that federal statute or law for me because I've never heard of it. Sounds like some crap Rush Limbaugh pulled out of his ass.

And really anyone but Obama? So if Rosie O'Donnell were running you'd vote for her? I call bull shit.

One year minimum is the law required to release, look it up if you dont beliveve me. I guess i should have clarified anybody on the repub side i would vote for over obama, im talking complete idiots like michele bachman, sarah palin, ron paul, gary johnson and herman cain. Any of those retards would do a better job than obama but thats not saying much since obama doesnt set the bar very high. Hell i would even take hillary in a heartbeat over obama if by some chance hillary switched parties.

Now make sure you liberals come in here and call me racist for calling herman cain a retard, and a sexist too for insulting bachman and palin. Lets see if you people have any consistency or does it only apply when criticizing a black or female liberal, im sure that we'll be able to hear a pin drop when it comes to this issue.

[muldoon]

One year minimum is the law required to release, look it up if you dont beliveve me.

I looked it up and could only find this

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-s-taxes-obama-s-college-grades-your-money-and-why-you-care?cid=rss

Mitt Romney's taxes: First, no law requires any presidential candidate to release tax returns. However, since Spiro Agnew, Richard Nixon's vice president, pleaded no contest to tax evasion in 1973, an unwritten standard among POTUS candidates has been to release 2 years of tax returns. Why 2? Why not 1, or 3, or 25 years? That's another topic.

[Grind House]

Well he's the president now and hasn't shown none of you jack. So what are you gonna do about it besides shit on a message board and cry like a bitch? Nothing. This is not even worth arguing.

[PAULYPOKER]

Well he's the president now and hasn't shown none of you jack. So what are you gonna do about it besides shit on a message board and cry like a bitch? Nothing. This is not even worth arguing.

Sharpest post in the thread...................

[Tully Mars 63]

One year minimum is the law required to release, look it up if you dont beliveve me. I guess i should have clarified anybody on the repub side i would vote for over obama, im talking complete idiots like michele bachman, sarah palin, ron paul, gary johnson and herman cain. Any of those retards would do a better job than obama but thats not saying much since obama doesnt set the bar very high. Hell i would even take hillary in a heartbeat over obama if by some chance hillary switched parties.

Now make sure you liberals come in here and call me racist for calling herman cain a retard, and a sexist too for insulting bachman and palin. Lets see if you people have any consistency or does it only apply when criticizing a black or female liberal, im sure that we'll be able to hear a pin drop when it comes to this issue.

I have looked it up. Here's what is required to become POTUS-

• Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.
• One must also be at least 35 years of age to be president. John F. Kennedy was the youngest person to be elected president; he was 43 years old when he was inaugurated in 1961. There is no maximum age limit set forth in the Constitution. Ronald Reagan was the oldest president; at the end of his term in 1988, he was nearly 77.
• Finally, one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen. The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged.

These are required by the US Constitution.

Again I ask do you know of some federal statue or law that requires the release of one year of tax filings? Again I say it sounds like bull shit to me.

And really I don't care that Cain or Obama are black. No more then I care Mitt is white.

You'd take Hilary if she switched parties? So the person is less important then the party? Personally I vote for the person. I consider the person first and the party not much at all. I've voted for Bush Sr., Clinton, McCain (primary) Bush Jr., Kerry and Obama. Haven't decided who to vote for this year but I'm fairly certain it won't be Mitt as I honestly don't know what he stands for on any given issue... it's seriously keeps changing... often. And the issues he does stick with, like increased military spending, I disagree with him on.

[stevenash]

http://voices.yahoo.com/obama-v-obama-listing-presidents-flip-flops-10565095.html

[MatI]

http://voices.yahoo.com/obama-v-obam...-10565095.html

You should post the same for Mitt.

[rkelly110]

I guess it's better to have some promises renigged on, than to not have any at all, eh Nash?

So, because Mitt the twit is a multi millionaire a couple hundred times over, he's entitled to become pres?

Think about it, would you want a pres who got rich at the expense of others?
How would you feel if he did that to the company you work for? Put yourself into the equation
and everything becomes clear.

[stevenash]

My point is the poster above me said Mitt changes his position often and doesn't know where Mitt stands.
My point is Obama flip flops as much, if not more than Mitt has.

Now, here's a list of Obama's blatant broken promises.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

Now, shall we go into a list of campaign vows made my Obama just to get elected not kept?

In post 122, the OP said that he doesn't know what Romney stands for, Romney has a sound five point economic plan, it's out there if you care to research, but it involves tax, trade, energy, labor.

Obama's campaign money is just about depleted, now he's begging for more money.
Obama has spent nearly 85 percent of his campaign money on attack ads on Romney, the attack plan is really not working.
Bain didn't work, Reid calling out Romney's tax returns isn't working, Romney released what was required.
Romney actually out raised Obama in campaign funds, which everybody said was impossible to do, since Obama had an endless supply of Hollywood types and such money at his disposal.

What you are going to see in three weeks or so is the mountain of money Romney has raised put to use in TV ads and the like.
Trust me, you will be bombarded with Romney ads, and they won't be attack ads, Romney will outline his economic plans in those ads, he'll remind the viewers every 10 minutes the failed promises of the Obama administration, such as shovel ready jobs, such as how he vowed to keep the unemployment rate always under 8 percent, how he failed to cut the deficit like he vowed in 2008, etc. etc. etc.

You see the new Obama attack ad, Romney release his 2010 tax return, like he was required to do, turns out he made about 20 million and paid 14 percent tax on that 20 million, well the attack ad says the common middle class wage earned paid more in taxes that Romney.
Really?
A High School drop out can figure out 14 percent of 20 million is a boatload more than say 25 percent or so on 50,000.
Who paid more in tax dollars in 2010? The guy who made 20 million and paid 14 percent on that, or the regular Joe who made 50K, filed, and either paid a slight amount, or might have even got a refund?

For all the ad money Obama has spent slandering and attacking Romney, what has really 'stuck'? Bain? That boat sailed.
All that Obama money spent going after Romney has pretty much bought him maybe a 2 or 3 point lead (depending on what source you look at) some sources still has this race even.
Look at the electoral college scoreboard, slight edge Obama, pretty close to even.

Romney is like the heavy weight boxer in a title bout, it's a 15 rounder, Obama has pretty much thrown every thing at Romney, it's the end of the seventh round, even though Obama is ahead maybe four rounds to three, Obama has used most of his arsenal, starting to tire, Romney has played rope-a-dope with Obama so far, taken every shot, still fresh, unfazed, and hasn't even started to show his arsenal yet.

Wait, unless the economic news is much better in the next three months, Obama is going to go down in the 11th or 12th round

[MatI]

Nash, so you are against Obama flip flopping and breaking promises. This is not unique just to Obama. Are you also against Mitt doing the same?

[stevenash]

I
Think about it, would you want a pres who got rich at the expense of others?
How would you feel if he did that to the company you work for? Put yourself into the equation
and everything becomes clear.

You are pretty much clueless as to what Romney did at Bain.
He took over failing companies that were going to go belly up all together, trimmed the bad fat, the parts that made the companies a failure, streamlined it.

But there is so much more that.

80 percent of the money Romney and others at Bain put into companies from founding until today has grown revenues.
Like Staples, like Sports Authority........
Ask Bill Clinton, who said "Romney's record at Bain is stellar"
Quit drinking the liberal kool-aid Kelly, you are drunk on it dude.
Businessmen made tons of money investing in the fund.
Takes money to make money, and Obama want you dependent on the Government.
When private equity succeeds, it is not just companies that thrive -- it is retirees, charities, local communities, and universities that benefit the most.

Obama stood at the steps of GS Technologies in Kansas City and said this plant is closing because of Romney.

In 1993, GS Technologies, a company Bain Capital had invested in, purchased a struggling Kansas City steel plant from Armco. Prior to this investment, Armco announced plans to close the Kansas City plant if a buyer could not be found.
This investment – and $170 million in upgrades – kept the Kansas City plant competitive in a tough international market and saved the steel workers’ jobs for eight years.
Two years after Mitt Romney left Bain Capital, the GS Technologies plant was closed because of foreign steel dumping into the U.S. market. Thirty-one other steel companies declared bankruptcy during the same period.
During his three and a half years in office, President Obama has consistently failed to take the steps necessary to protect American manufacturing from unfairly-subsidized Chinese imports. On day one, President Romney will designate China a currency manipulator and take the steps necessary to make American manufacturing competitive again.

Want to talk about Amp-Pad?
Obama wants you to believe that was Romney's fault.
Romney and Bain invested in that failing clusterfuck, turned a profit, Romney left Bain, Am-Pad made bad ill advised decisions after Romney.

Ships jobs overseas? Outsources? Please, get a clue.

Under Governor Romney’s leadership, Bain Capital invested in over 100 companies. Of those, President Obama’s campaign has accused three of shipping jobs overseas. In two of these cases, the accusations are related to events that occurred in 2000 and 2001, well after Governor Romney left Bain Capital in February 1999 to lead the Winter Olympics. In the third case, the share of domestic production actually increased, not decreased, during the time the Obama campaign points to. This attack is merely an attempt to distract voters from President Obama’s failed economic record and his refusal to stand up to China’s unfair trade practices.

Get off the Obama kool-aid dude.

[stevenash]

Nash, so you are against Obama flip flopping and breaking promises. This is not unique just to Obama. Are you also against Mitt doing the same?

All politicians do it, except I am not voting for a politician that want our citizens dependent of the Government. Socialism doesn't work, look at Europe right now, Spain, Greece, the list of countries are endless.

Romney is a private sector success, he's a successful businessman.
Obama is a socialist, who never held a private sector job in his life.
Sure Bush dealt Obama a bad hand, just like Carter to Reagan.
Reagan bailed us out, Obama dug the hole deeper.

[Tully Mars 63]

Obama is a socialist, who never held a private sector job in his life.

First if Obama is socialists he's not a very good one. Second... he never held a private sector job? So all the crap he takes for being a 'community organizer" for several catholic parishes was a public sector job or do you think he didn't work there? What about his work at the University of Chicago Law School? Was that public or private sector work?

Sure Bush dealt Obama a bad hand, just like Carter to Reagan.
Reagan bailed us out, Obama dug the hole deeper.

And Reagan did what to get the US out of the mess it was in? Did he raise taxes? Yes. Did he increase the debt and deficit? Yes.

[Turd Ferguson]

You are pretty much clueless as to what Romney did at Bain.

[Hotdiggity11]

who never held a private sector job in his life.

So, the law firm he worked at wasn't in the private sector?

He was also a professor at the University of Chicago.


So, there's 2 right off the bat.

[MatI]

All politicians do it, except I am not voting for a politician that want our citizens dependent of the Government. Socialism doesn't work, look at Europe right now, Spain, Greece, the list of countries are endless.

Romney is a private sector success, he's a successful businessman.
Obama is a socialist, who never held a private sector job in his life.
Sure Bush dealt Obama a bad hand, just like Carter to Reagan.
Reagan bailed us out, Obama dug the hole deeper.

To call Obama a socialist is pretty laughable. For what? Trying to bring in a healthcare system that helps to cover as many of its citizens is possible? Try and tell a Canadian or Australian not all people deserve equal health care treatment and see what response you get.

Funny you mention Spain & Greece. What about Germany & Australia? They are going strongly still. All have very similar social assistance policies. The global financial issues have nothing to do with social policies. China is the strongest economy at the moment, going by your logic we should take up communism.

Both Romney and Obama are private sector successes. How can you say otherwise?

Is Raegan really the president you referance for a successful recovering? He is who started all this mess! But at least he made fluffy, positive advertisements that told Americans how great they were.

[Balco10]

Have no clue to why this is an issue at this point of the election?

[stevenash]

So, the law firm he worked at wasn't in the private sector?

He was also a professor at the University of Chicago.


So, there's 2 right off the bat.

Teachers are not considered 'private sector'

[Emily_Haines]

The real question is...........

Why doesn't Mitt Romney release his tax returns?

[rkelly110]

Sorry for drinking the commonsense kool aide. No matter what we say, you will vote for whoever you want.
The same goes for us that disagree with you. You can't change our view either.

[Tully Mars 63]

Teachers are not considered 'private sector'

Teachers at private schools are and last I looked The University of Chicago is a private school.

[stevenash]

No matter what we say, you will vote for whoever you want.
The same goes for us that disagree with you. You can't change our view either.

Spot on statement.

[muldoon]

Waiting for M C Picks to cite that law about years of tax returns