Phelps is a all-time great but what's with all the correlated events?

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  • Bill Dozer
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    • 07-12-05
    • 10894

    #1
    Phelps is a all-time great but what's with all the correlated events?
    Legit Q to anyone who understands swimming and the Olympics...

    The media is going on an on about Phelps as the most decorated Olympian. He is a legend but shouldn't a great swimmer always be the most decorated? These guys swim the same race a million different ways it seems. And, they can swim their best event again in team relay format. Now this underwear model Latche suddenly has 10 medals?

    By comparison how many different ways could a Usain Bolt run? How many events could the best gymnast get in? Is this obvious but the media doesnt want to downplay all his medals?
  • Jerm3462
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    • 11-09-09
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    #2
    What's he supposed to do? Archery?
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    • boeing power
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      • 03-23-10
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      #3
      100% correct bill

      And there are too many fuking swimming medals.
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      • CanuckG
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        • 12-23-10
        • 21978

        #4
        What about all the swimmers who swim the same events but don't medal nearly as much? You still have to be dominant to win medals.
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        • Bill Dozer
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          • 07-12-05
          • 10894

          #5
          Originally posted by Jerm3462
          What's he supposed to do? Archery?
          The Olympics is supposed to be a pressure cooker right? How disappointed are you really if you don't win but have another try in the afternoon and the next day. If the Archer missed the bullseye and someone else hits it, he's going home. He doesnt get to try it backwards or through his legs tomorrow (or does he?).
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          • Jerm3462
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            • 11-09-09
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            #6
            LOL! U guys are whining.
            Too many swimming medals? how come none of the other olympic swimmers the past 100 years have all those medals?

            Phelps is legend
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            • Bill Dozer
              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
              • 07-12-05
              • 10894

              #7
              Originally posted by CanuckG
              What about all the swimmers who swim the same events but don't medal nearly as much? You still have to be dominant to win medals.
              No doubt, the best swimmer, but he' single handedly responsible for the USA's medal count. Phelps vs China.

              How many Olympic events and Olympians are there? But all we see is swimming which seems to be a 3 week deal.
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              • shari91
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                • 02-23-10
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                #8
                They were talking about this on Aussie news last week about Ian Thorpe and some of the other swimmers here. They get all this praise for the number of medals they've won but they get that many more chances each Olympics to get one. One medal for other sports should be considered the same as like 5 for a swimmer who enters 13 bloody races each Olympics.
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                • Jerm3462
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                  • 11-09-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                  The Olympics is supposed to be a pressure cooker right? How disappointed are you really if you don't win but have another try in the afternoon and the next day. If the Archer missed the bullseye and someone else hits it, he's going home. He doesnt get to try it backwards or through his legs tomorrow (does he?).
                  True I guess. but you shouldn't take away from what the kid has accomplished. if the olympic committee schedules 400 swimming events, rock on brother
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                  • Bill Dozer
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                    • 07-12-05
                    • 10894

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jerm3462

                    True I guess. but you shouldn't take away from what the kid has accomplished. if the olympic committee schedules 400 swimming events, rock on brother
                    Right I got swimmers in my family and like to watch but you get no love if youre the gold medalist in darts.
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                    • Chi_archie
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                      • 07-22-08
                      • 63172

                      #11
                      its hard to stay on top like phelps has for 4 olympics

                      doesn't matter what sport you do, that is impressive, bit its more impressive in swimming.

                      the different strokes are night and day.

                      being good at butterfly and free style is impressive.

                      50-100-200 in meters

                      its rare to see anyone crossover and do all three of those. and those are the distances that most of the big medal winners do.

                      a good gymnast could win conceivably win a medal in the team, all around, and each individual but still come up short pf phelps/spitz individual numbers
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                      • mathdotcom
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                        • 03-24-08
                        • 11689

                        #12
                        Carl Lewis is greatest olympian

                        Gold in 4 different olympics and in different sports

                        If there were 47 types of long jump like there are in swimming then no one would be saying this about phelps
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                        • k13
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                          • 07-16-10
                          • 18104

                          #13
                          Very lame. Who cares about bunch of swimming medals......basically like he won one medal.
                          Makes the medal standings gay too, 100 medals in swimming, blah.

                          Win swimming, go win the 100m sprint then win a ping pong match against a chinese and I'll be impressed.
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                          • onlooker
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                            • 08-10-05
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                            #14
                            Why hasn't any other swimmer been the most decorated? If a good swimmer should be the most decorated. Larisa Latynina was a gymnast, and her record held for 48 years.

                            You have to be in great shape to do all these swims for a week. The semi's and finals add up. At some point the body will break down and fatigue.

                            Hell, wasn't it Missy that did 2 swims in 10 minutes? She won Gold on the second one.

                            I don't take anything away from the guy, it is very impressive.
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                            • mathdotcom
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                              • 03-24-08
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              Originally posted by onlooker
                              Why hasn't any other swimmer been the most decorated? If a good swimmer should be the most decorated. Larisa Latynina was a gymnast, and her record held for 48 years.

                              You have to be in great shape to do all these swims for a week. The semi's and finals add up. At some point the body will break down and fatigue.

                              Hell, wasn't it Missy that did 2 swims in 10 minutes? She won Gold on the second one.

                              I don't take anything away from the guy, it is very impressive.
                              English please
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                              • k13
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                                • 07-16-10
                                • 18104

                                #16
                                Maybe they should have a 100m, 200m sprints backwards.....
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                                • opie1988
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                                  • 09-12-10
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                                  #17
                                  Dozer is only upset that his beloved home of Costa Rica got yet another goose egg in the Olympics this year.

                                  Hey Billy....too bad they don't have "shoveling a defecate hole" as a timed event, pal. Y'all would dominate!

                                  Costa Rica
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                                  • boeing power
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                                    • 03-23-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                    Carl Lewis is greatest olympian

                                    Gold in 4 different olympics and in different sports

                                    If there were 47 types of long jump like there are in swimming then no one would be saying this about phelps



                                    That juiced up motherfuker.

                                    You have to be joking mathy.
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                                    • boeing power
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                                      • 03-23-10
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by k13
                                      Maybe they should have a 100m, 200m sprints backwards.....
                                      And 300,400,500,600,etc,etc
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                                      • onlooker
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                                        • 08-10-05
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                        Carl Lewis is greatest olympian

                                        Gold in 4 different olympics and in different sports

                                        If there were 47 types of long jump like there are in swimming then no one would be saying this about phelps
                                        Punctuation please.
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                                        • CanuckG
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                                          • 12-23-10
                                          • 21978

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                          Carl Lewis is greatest olympian

                                          Gold in 4 different olympics and in different sports

                                          If there were 47 types of long jump like there are in swimming then no one would be saying this about phelps
                                          doping
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                                          • Jerm3462
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                                            • 11-09-09
                                            • 4454

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by k13
                                            Very lame.

                                            Win swimming, go win the 100m sprint then win a ping pong match against a chinese and I'll be impressed.
                                            LOL again.
                                            so you're impressed beating a china man at a childrens game, but you're not impressed at a human that can swim like a tuna....... something's wrong here
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                                            • k13
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                                              • 07-16-10
                                              • 18104

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by opie1988
                                              Dozer is only upset that his beloved home of Costa Rica got yet another goose egg in the Olympics this year.

                                              Hey Billy....too bad they don't have "shoveling a defecate hole" as a timed event, pal. Y'all would dominate!

                                              Costa Rica

                                              All of Costa Rica's Medals have come in Swimming, shows you how lame swimming.
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                                              • mathdotcom
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                                                • 03-24-08
                                                • 11689

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by onlooker
                                                Punctuation please.
                                                Son at least you can understand wtf I'm saying
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                                                • QuantumLeap
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                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                  • 6880

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                  Carl Lewis is greatest olympian

                                                  Gold in 4 different olympics and in different sports

                                                  If there were 47 types of long jump like there are in swimming then no one would be saying this about phelps
                                                  100m, 200m, 4X100m relay, 4x200m relay, long jump, triple jump.

                                                  All relating to someone with speed. Not all that different than swimming.
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                                                  • onlooker
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                                                    • 08-10-05
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                    Son at least you can understand wtf I'm saying


                                                    Whatever buddy.
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                                                    • k13
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                                                      • 07-16-10
                                                      • 18104

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Jerm3462
                                                      LOL again.
                                                      so you're impressed beating a china man at a childrens game, but you're not impressed at a human that can swim like a tuna....... something's wrong here
                                                      Yeah. More skill in table tennis than swimming.

                                                      Maybe if he beats a Sailfish in a race than we can be all impressed.
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                                                      • mathdotcom
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                                                        • 03-24-08
                                                        • 11689

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by QuantumLeap
                                                        100m, 200m, 4X100m relay, 4x200m relay, long jump, triple jump.

                                                        All relating to someone with speed. Not all that different than swimming.
                                                        That's max 6 medals AND you're competing in 2 different sports
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                                                        • k13
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-16-10
                                                          • 18104

                                                          #29
                                                          How about put Bolt against a Cheetah??

                                                          I don't know if he could even beat a bunny.....
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                                                          • convick
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                                                            • 11-03-11
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                            its hard to stay on top like phelps has for 4 olympics

                                                            doesn't matter what sport you do, that is impressive, bit its more impressive in swimming.

                                                            the different strokes are night and day.

                                                            being good at butterfly and free style is impressive.

                                                            50-100-200 in meters

                                                            its rare to see anyone crossover and do all three of those. and those are the distances that most of the big medal winners do.

                                                            a good gymnast could win conceivably win a medal in the team, all around, and each individual but still come up short pf phelps/spitz individual numbers
                                                            Phelps isnt at his best here. He wasnt at his best in Sydney either. Guy didnt even medal.

                                                            Peak years were 2003-2009. Guy is still very good though.
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                                                            • Bill Dozer
                                                              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                              • 07-12-05
                                                              • 10894

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by opie1988
                                                              Dozer is only upset that his beloved home of Costa Rica got yet another goose egg in the Olympics this year.

                                                              Hey Billy....too bad they don't have "shoveling a defecate hole" as a timed event, pal. Y'all would dominate!

                                                              Costa Rica
                                                              Come down to Costa Rica and I'll show you the record time for a 6'4 "defecate hole".
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                                                              • Naz18
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                                                                • 09-10-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Been saying/thinking this for a long time...
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                                                                • ChalkyDog
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                                                                  • 10-02-11
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  This is simple. It is insanely hard to accumulate those many medals, because of the longevity one needs. Phelps made it to 3 different olympics. 12 years of being at the top of their game, in a world where you are old at 23.

                                                                  Phelps is a legend.

                                                                  And, if it wasn't for Swimming, we would be trailing the goddamn Chinese - who literally clean up in diving. If you want to bitch about a meaningless and too many event sport, it is diving.
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                                                                  • ProfitBettingSov
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-04-12
                                                                    • 619

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah, it's just easy competing in so many events. All Phelps has to do is wake up, jump in the pool, swim a few laps and he gets rewarded.

                                                                    No stamina, no time recovery needed is there?
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63172

                                                                      #35
                                                                      They need some skipping events in track and field
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