seriously how does the Reds game NOT go OVER and why is the total only 9.

[zoo youk]

every game in this series has flew over the total and I don't see why it is going to stop now. Kip Wells is going for SD who is due to absolutely blow up and will get crushed in this ball park. his xERA is 5.17, almost a full 2 points higher than his smoke and mirros 3. something ERA. the guy is a time bomb. Arroyo has been slipping lately with a ERA above 4 in his last 3 starts and the Padres are actually putting up a lot of runs. the line is throwing me off though.

maybe the Reds TT would be the better play?

[billysink]

every game in this series has flew over the total and I don't see why it is going to stop now. Kip Wells is going for SD who is due to absolutely blow up and will get crushed in this ball park. his xERA is 5.17, almost a full 2 points higher than his smoke and mirros 3. something ERA. the guy is a time bomb. Arroyo has been slipping lately with a ERA above 4 in his last 3 starts and the Padres are actually putting up a lot of runs. the line is throwing me off though.

maybe the Reds TT would be the better play?

No Phillips, no Votto will keep that line in check Youker. I agree with your assessment though and bought both of those this morning.

[Chi_archie]

Wells does suck

[CarpeDime]

also dont forget cincy has a sick pen

ff over might be better

[BIGDAY]

Losher, your avatar turns me on. I plan on working out while at the bash... Will you spot me?????

[Chi_archie]

Good point carper

[zoo youk]

No Phillips, no Votto will keep that line in check Youker. I agree with your assessment though and bought both of those this morning.

they have been on a tear without Votto anyway. ehh Phillips than can do without, Drew Stubbs is absolutely locked in right now. I agree with someone who mentioned the Reds bullpen. Plus Arroyo might be too crafty for the young Pads.

TT it is.

[Smoke]

The total is only 9 because they want all the degenerates to bet the OVER

[ttwarrior1]

b phillips is out and 2 or 3 other normal starters are out as well for both teams

[billysink]

also dont forget cincy has a sick pen

ff over might be better

Carper I did better than 9 here beat the steam on the game total. Will probably beat the close on the TT as well. Good point though, if I had a choice between o9 at plus money and o5 for 5 at plus, I would definitely take the FF.

Pending Bets
TICKET	ACCEPTED	EVENT DATE	TYPE	DESCRIPTION		RISKING	TO WIN	BET STATUS
257222702-1 1	7:47am 1-Aug-12	4:10pm 1-Aug-12	Baseball Total	San Diego Padres/Cincinnati Reds (O 8.5) for Game.	-113			Pending
MLB (K. Wells must start / B. Arroyo must start)
257225274-1 2	8:08am 1-Aug-12	4:10pm 1-Aug-12	Baseball Team Total	Cincinnati Reds (O 4.5) for Game.	-119			Pending

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I'm with the OVER also here. Should be some octane on both sides.

[zoo youk]

Cozart SS, Stubbs CF, Bruce RF, Rolen 3B, Ludwick LF, Frazier 1B, Valdez 2B, Hanigan C, (Arroyo P)

[zoo youk]

really doesn't matter though. Houston could light up Kip Wells in the Reds ball park.

[billysink]

1. Zack Cozart (R) SS
2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
3. Jay Bruce (L) RF
4. Scott Rolen (R) 3B
5. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B
7. Wilson Valdez (R) 2B
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
9. Bronson Arroyo (R) P

[billysink]

1. Alexi Amarista (L) 2B
2. Will Venable (L) RF
3. Chase Headley (S) 3B
4. Yonder Alonso (L) 1B
5. Mark Kotsay (L) LF
6. John Baker (L) C
7. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
8. Everth Cabrera (S) SS
9. Kip Wells (R) P

[Doughboy22]

Im gonna roll with u guys

[billysink]

Light breeze right now 7 mph from third base to right field foul line. Conditons will hold steady with a slight diminish in speed as the game continues. A little help for the 7 lefthanded hitters the Padres will use tonight

[CHR1S]

These two pitchers had a matchup earlier in the year at petco it was only 6-0 CIN

[billysink]

A sprinkling on the Padres alternate run line as well @ +257

[CarpeDime]

1. Alexi Amarista (L) 2B
2. Will Venable (L) RF
3. Chase Headley (S) 3B
4. Yonder Alonso (L) 1B
5. Mark Kotsay (L) LF
6. John Baker (L) C
7. Cameron Maybin (R) CF
8. Everth Cabrera (S) SS
9. Kip Wells (R) P

hmm no carlos quentin, no Yabundhi Grandal

[billysink]

hmm no carlos quentin, no Yabundhi Grandal

Grandal is out and on 15 day DL

Quentin out for rest. Kotsay in. Quentin with no history against Arroyo, no hits in 4 AB. I will take Kotsay a lefthanded stick there who has a career .OPS at an unheard of 1.048 against Arroyo in 28 AB's

Positive change here Carper.
.

[CarpeDime]

Grandal is out and on 15 day DL

Quentin out for rest. Kotsay in. Quentin with no history against Arroyo, no hits in 4 AB. I will take Kotsay a lefthanded stick there who has a career .OPS at an unheard of 1.048 against Arroyo in 28 AB's

Positive change here Carper.
.

yeah i hear you, i have liked seeing those guys in there when betting on sd or overs recently, but more just making the observation

still though lets not go nuts with fukin kotsay just because of something coming from a 28 AB sample size, hommie was born in fukin 75 and was never exactly barry bonds but still i hear you

[zoo youk]

These two pitchers had a matchup earlier in the year at petco it was only 6-0 CIN

thats a pretty big score for PETCO

haha

[zoo youk]

anyway...i've totally backed off the over. Bronson might be too crafty for these young cats

staying with tt over 4.5

Kip Wells

[billysink]

yeah i hear you, i have liked seeing those guys in there when betting on sd or overs recently, but more just making the observation

still though lets not go nuts with fukin kotsay just because of something coming from a 28 AB sample size, hommie was born in fukin 75 and was never exactly barry bonds but still i hear you

Just showing value Carper. Lots would just look at Quentin and Grandal out and right the Pads off. Not going nuts just a 1 unit play on each total. Halfer on the RRL. 28 AB is a medium sized sample and enough to use in a prediction.

Good Luck with whatever you have.

[CHR1S]

They didnt score off Kip either. It was their bullpen that did the damage in the last few innings

[Madison]

every game in this series has flew over the total and I don't see why it is going to stop now. Kip Wells is going for SD who is due to absolutely blow up and will get crushed in this ball park. his xERA is 5.17, almost a full 2 points higher than his smoke and mirros 3. something ERA. the guy is a time bomb. Arroyo has been slipping lately with a ERA above 4 in his last 3 starts and the Padres are actually putting up a lot of runs. the line is throwing me off though.

maybe the Reds TT would be the better play?

I must be looking at different numbers as I have Arroyo 9 runs in his last 35 inn with 5 runs in one of the 5 starts. 4 total in the other 2. I'm one of the first guys to jump on Arroyo if/when he regresses but ...

[zoo youk]

Im happy theres all these runs already but dusty baker drives me insane. Kip wells cant throw a strike if his life depended on it and he goes and gives stubbs the steal sign and he gets caught. How can u be so stupid to send a runner when the guy cant find the plate and is handing u free bases. I only mention it cause ive seen him do this multiple times. Thankfully this time it didnt kill the inning. Granted we could have another run on the board

[Pauulzcappin]

I feel like a fukking sucker for not taking Reds TT over like I planned all afternoon.

[CarpeDime]

Just showing value Carper. Lots would just look at Quentin and Grandal out and right the Pads off. Not going nuts just a 1 unit play on each total. Halfer on the RRL. 28 AB is a medium sized sample and enough to use in a prediction.

Good Luck with whatever you have.

thanks pal cashed bay-BEE

[zoo youk]

Wells is being what u call effectively wild. Guy has thrown more balls than strikes

[zoo youk]

Let's go Rolen, cash this!

[Doughboy22]

Over is at least a push. Gl zoo u need cinci to get it right here so u can shut this shit game off

[zoo youk]

Bangggggggggggggggg

[flipside2469]

One more run! !!