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  • l7ustin
    SBR MVP
    • 10-09-08
    • 3914

    #1
    intelligent posters only: probability question
    if derek jeter has a 38% chance of getting a hit in every at bat tonight and robinson cano has a 40% chance of getting a hit in every at bat tonight then what is the probability that either cano or jeter will get a hit in their first at bat in tonights game??
  • jrmartin.mig
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-29-10
    • 624

    #2
    My first question would be "where do you get the figures that they have a 38% and 40% chance of getting a hit"?
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    • mathdotcom
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-24-08
      • 11689

      #3
      Independent probability

      If two events, A and B are independent then the joint probability is
      <dl><dd></dd></dl> for example, if two coins are flipped the chance of both being heads is [18]
      Mutually exclusive

      If either event A or event B or both events occur on a single performance of an experiment this is called the union of the events A and B denoted as . If two events are mutually exclusive then the probability of either occurring is
      <dl><dd></dd></dl> For example, the chance of rolling a 1 or 2 on a six-sided die is
      Not mutually exclusive

      If the events are not mutually exclusive then
      <dl><dd>




      I'll let you figure out which applies
      </dd></dl>
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      • JohnGalt2341
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-31-09
        • 9138

        #4
        Do you mean getting on base? Wouldn't it be 58.5%?
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        • l7ustin
          SBR MVP
          • 10-09-08
          • 3914

          #5
          Originally posted by jrmartin.mig
          My first question would be "where do you get the figures that they have a 38% and 40% chance of getting a hit"?
          the infallible Accuscore
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          • no gnu taxes
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-18-11
            • 805

            #6
            Originally posted by l7ustin
            if derek jeter has a 38% chance of getting a hit in every at bat tonight and robinson cano has a 40% chance of getting a hit in every at bat tonight then what is the probability that either cano or jeter will get a hit in their first at bat in tonights game??

            Simply put:


            Probability of Jeter not getting a hit = 1-.38 = 0.62

            Probability of Cano not getting a hit = 1-.40 = 0.60


            So the probability of neither getting a hit is (0.60)(0.62) = 0.372


            Probability at least 1 gets a hit = 1 - 0.372 = 0.628
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            • l7ustin
              SBR MVP
              • 10-09-08
              • 3914

              #7
              1-.4=.6
              1-.38=.62
              .6*.62=.372
              1-.372=.628
              They have a 62.8% chance of either one of them getting a hit
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              • l7ustin
                SBR MVP
                • 10-09-08
                • 3914

                #8
                Excellent job gnu!!
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                • str
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 11786

                  #9
                  78%

                  Assumed 39% times 2= 78
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                  • Br0nxer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-25-11
                    • 13665

                    #10
                    think tank this fukkin bullshit
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                    • wantitall4moi
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-17-10
                      • 3063

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Br0nxer
                      think tank this fukkin bullshit
                      LMAO yeah because simple math belongs in there..... well yeah I guess it would considering some of the shit they think is worth discussing in that place.

                      Anyone betting more than lunch money on sports should actually be able to figure that out, even though some think it is some advanced form of math or something.
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                      • PerfectGrape
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-20-11
                        • 6761

                        #12
                        Riddle me this Batman: the Heat have a 67% chance of winning any given NBA Finals game. What is the probability Heat wins series 4-3?
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                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 19734

                          #13
                          it's 50/50

                          either they do or they don't

                          /thread
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                          • King Mayan
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-22-10
                            • 21326

                            #14
                            I think the right answer is:
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                            • bb_skoots
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-04-11
                              • 1088

                              #15
                              The chance that Jeter gets a hit in his first at bat is 38% and that Cano gets a hit in his first at bat is 40%.
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                              • d2bets
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 39995

                                #16
                                62.8% is right. Jeter is 38%. So 62% of the time you'll get to Cano. He gets a hit 40%*62% = 24.8%. So 38% plus 24.8%.
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                                • The Kraken
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-25-11
                                  • 28918

                                  #17
                                  40+38=78

                                  78/2= 39

                                  Assume 4 at bats per game

                                  39/4=10

                                  So 10% chance they get a hit on their first at bat
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                                  • yisman
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-01-08
                                    • 75682

                                    #18
                                    It was first plate appearance, not first at bat, and Accuscore did not have those percentages you mentioned.
                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                    [/quote]

                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                    • alukk
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-29-09
                                      • 1544

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                      40+38=78

                                      78/2= 39

                                      Assume 4 at bats per game

                                      39/4=10

                                      So 10% chance they get a hit on their first at bat
                                      lol
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                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-12-07
                                        • 12144

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PerfectGrape
                                        Riddle me this Batman: the Heat have a 67% chance of winning any given NBA Finals game. What is the probability Heat wins series 4-3?
                                        14.48%

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                                        • TheCentaur
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-28-11
                                          • 8108

                                          #21
                                          One variable that is being ignored is how much more unlikely it is to get a hit against a pitcher on the first at bat of the day. There's a reason why you don't want pitchers going more than 6-7 innings besides pitch count, if a hitter has already seen the guys stuff in 2 or 3 at bats he's better prepared.
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                                          • jbart28
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-16-11
                                            • 3387

                                            #22
                                            Bout tree fiddy...

                                            You 2p2'ers will laugh
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                                            • PerfectGrape
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-20-11
                                              • 6761

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                              Great tool, was looking for exactly this
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                                              • a4u2fear
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-29-10
                                                • 8147

                                                #24
                                                As math would say and I would agree, any introductory probability course would have tAught you this week 1
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                                                • no gnu taxes
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-18-11
                                                  • 805

                                                  #25
                                                  Riddle me this Batman: the Heat have a 67% chance of winning any given NBA Finals game. What is the probability Heat wins series 4-3?
                                                  Odds of being tied 3-3 after 6 games:

                                                  (6, 3) * .67^3 *.33^3

                                                  (6*5*4)/3*2 * .67^3 *.33^3

                                                  20 * .67^3 *.33^3

                                                  = 21.62%

                                                  Since the chance of Miami winning the 7th game is 0.67, the chance of the heat winning in 7 games is 0.67 * 0.2162 = 14.48%

                                                  By the same analysis, if the 2 teams were evenly matched, there would only be a 31.3% chance of a 7th game happening (i.e. series is tied 3-3 after 6 games). In real life, it seems the actual percentage is much higher, although I've done no research to verify that.
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                                                  • ebelisle22
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-27-11
                                                    • 4726

                                                    #26
                                                    1.7%
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