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TheCentaur · 07-28-12, 10:00 AM

What is Will Hill's angle here? 90% of us can't give them any business. They opening up an online poker room for US players soon? Thanks though

Koldazzice · 07-28-12, 11:01 AM

I'm scared - hit the 100 and the last 150, all in 1 hand of BJ - 3 times may be pushing it lol

thx again lou for another great promo

SBR Lou · 07-28-12, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by TheCentaur

What is Will Hill's angle here? 90% of us can't give them any business. They opening up an online poker room for US players soon? Thanks though

All good branding. BTW there are more international guys visiting SBR than you may realize.

WillHill doesn't have an interactive gaming license in Nevada, but they do have a land-based gaming license now.

BeerDog99 · 07-28-12, 12:41 PM

Oh boy, another attempt at getting me to lose points in that "rigged!!!!" casino!! :-)

Cheme82 · 07-28-12, 12:45 PM

Anybody wants to go 50/50 or a stake with no risk.

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Mr KLC · 07-28-12, 01:57 PM

They keep bringing these promos up week after week. That tells me there are more people losing than winning.

boeing power · 07-28-12, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

They keep bringing these promos up week after week. That tells me there are more people losing than winning.

No way.

I don't believe degenerates could lose money with a casino promo.

JAKEPEAVY21 · 07-28-12, 04:45 PM

bobbywaves · 07-28-12, 11:16 PM

Quick & easy 200pts, thanks for the double up.

milwaukee mike · 07-28-12, 11:21 PM

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milwaukee mike · 07-28-12, 11:21 PM

thanks again sbr
love these promos, especially when i win

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Thanks!!

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Thanks.

onlooker · 07-28-12, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by SBR Lou

All good branding. BTW there are more international guys visiting SBR than you may realize.

WillHill doesn't have an interactive gaming license in Nevada, but they do have a land-based gaming license now.

I'm interactive with WillHill in Nevada.

Mobile App.

BeerDog99 · 07-28-12, 11:32 PM

Woohoo, I finally won one of these! Thanks!

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<nobr>Player Hand 2</nobr>	<nobr>18</nobr>	<nobr title="8c Qd">8♣ Q♦</nobr>	<nobr title="Stand">Stand</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>
<nobr>Player Hand 3</nobr>	<nobr>19</nobr>	<nobr title="8s 5h 6s">8♠ 5♥ 6♠</nobr>	<nobr title="Hit, Stand">Hit, Stand</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>
<nobr>Dealer Hand</nobr>	<nobr>17</nobr>	<nobr title="7d Jh">7♦ J♥</nobr>	<nobr title="Stand">Stand</nobr>

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<nobr>Player Hand 1</nobr>	<nobr>18</nobr>	<nobr title="8h Qc">8♥ Q♣</nobr>	<nobr title="Stand">Stand</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>	<nobr title=".00">.00</nobr>
<nobr>Player Hand 2</nobr>	<nobr>20</nobr>	<nobr title="8h 2h Kc">8♥ 2♥ K♣</nobr>	<nobr title="Split, Hit, Stand">Split, Hit, Stand</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>
<nobr>Player Hand 3</nobr>	<nobr>24</nobr>	<nobr title="6d 3d 7d 8c">6♦ 3♦ 7♦ 8♣</nobr>	<nobr title="Hit, Hit, Bust">Hit, Hit, Bust</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>	<nobr title="-25.00" class="red">-25.00</nobr>
<nobr>Player Hand 4</nobr>	<nobr>20</nobr>	<nobr title="Kh Kd">K♥ K♦</nobr>	<nobr title="Stand">Stand</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>	<nobr title="25.00">25.00</nobr>
<nobr>Dealer Hand</nobr>	<nobr>18</nobr>	<nobr title="8d Qh">8♦ Q♥</nobr>	<nobr title="Stand">Stand</nobr>

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playersonly69 · 07-29-12, 12:25 AM

thanks lou

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<NOBR>Player Hand </NOBR>	<NOBR>20</NOBR>	<NOBR title="Ts 2h 8s">T♠ 2♥ 8♠</NOBR>	<NOBR title="Hit, Stand">Hit, Stand</NOBR>
<NOBR>Dealer Hand</NOBR>	<NOBR>17</NOBR>	<NOBR title="8s 9h">8♠ 9♥</NOBR>	<NOBR title=Stand>Stand</NOBR>

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tatddy · 07-29-12, 12:58 AM

Thx SBR

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fitguy67 · 07-29-12, 02:35 AM

thanks for the extra 6 bucks and for the motivation to find/brush up an old "binomial distribution" spreadsheet i had almost forgotten about (i played roulette this time 'round...cuz i thought the "baccarat" gods would punish me for pressing my luck=taking them for granted)...

_________________

The genius behind SBR (all cainos actually) goes beyond marketing into the realm of "behavior modification" and is based on one simple fact:
**guys are suckers for three things...the promise of beer, points, and

...put the words "free" and/or "more" in front of any of these (explicitly or even just implicitly)...and you'll instantly convert an adult being into a mindless zombie-child

How many of us, that eventually "won" the 100 we were after, even noticed just how much we were down or were theoretically prepared to go down (probably MANY multiples of 100...in most cases we'd keep chasing if necessary till all the points in our kitty were gone or we'd hit our target)

....this kind of promo has a ratio of winners to losers of say 8:1, each with a net win of $100-ish...but the average loss of the losers would be typically MORE than 800 (given the fact that most of us will never specify at the outset the exact point where they would "say uncle"...and even if we did, we'd probably just violate it any way and keep going till either we hit the target or busted the account).

THIS psychological tendency (which i call "idiot-wiring") is why casinos consistently kill people...it's not with the house edge. Sharp customers (a tiny minority) have developed the ability to over-ride the idiot-wiring with mathematical-awareness of gaming situations...but most of us remain square idiots...especially if we sense that more beer/$/points/

are around the corner. And such hard-to-develop sharpness is not generally transferable to new situations ...so even the sharpest sport bettor, who always caps & shops carefully and never chases can be the biggest fish in the casino (=have no idea of the odds involved in the game and have no ability to stop other than "hit target or hit pavement").

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TheCentaur · 07-29-12, 02:44 AM

Another winner! Will Hill getting buried, short them first thing Monday morning

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TheCentaur · 07-29-12, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by fitguy67

thanks for the extra 6 bucks and for the motivation to find/brush up an old "binomial distribution" spreadsheet i had almost forgotten about (i played roulette this time 'round...cuz i thought the "baccarat" gods would punish me for pressing my luck=taking them for granted)...

_________________

The genius behind SBR (all cainos actually) goes beyond marketing into the realm of "behavior modification" and is based on one simple fact:
**guys are suckers for three things...the promise of beer, points, and

...put the words "free" and/or "more" in front of any of these (explicitly or even just implicitly)...and you'll instantly convert an adult being into a mindless zombie-child

How many of us, that eventually "won" the 100 we were after, even noticed just how much we were down or were theoretically prepared to go down (probably MANY multiples of 100...in most cases we'd keep chasing if necessary till all the points in our kitty were gone or we'd hit our target)

....this kind of promo has a ratio of winners to losers of say 8:1, each with a net win of $100-ish...but the average loss of the losers would be typically MORE than 800 (given the fact that most of us will never specify at the outset the exact point where they would "say uncle"...and even if we did, we'd probably just violate it any way and keep going till either we hit the target or busted the account).

THIS psychological tendency (which i call "idiot-wiring") is why casinos consistently kill people...it's not with the house edge. Sharp customers (a tiny minority) have developed the ability to over-ride the idiot-wiring with mathematical-awareness of gaming situations...but most of us remain square idiots...especially if we sense that more beer/$/points/

are around the corner. And such hard-to-develop sharpness is not generally transferable to new situations ...so even the sharpest sport bettor, who always caps & shops carefully and never chases can be the biggest fish in the casino (=have no idea of the odds involved in the game and have no ability to stop other than "hit target or hit pavement").

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I take it you lost. Better luck next time pal. If you won I hope ur constipation gets better

fitguy67 · 07-29-12, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by TheCentaur

I take it you lost. Better luck next time pal. If you won I hope ur constipation gets better

Good one...i tend toward verbosity (it's an occupational hazard)...I like to think i'm "shedding light"...but very often I'm just "shedding"

)...

I actually did win...but noticed that i was down at least quadruple the prize before i mindlessly started "chasing" (in ways i'd never do with a series of sports bets)...and know that if instead of getting bailed out with the large bets that saved me, i'd stayed cold...then i'd have been down MUCH more than quadruple...and am quite sure that i'd just as automatically have kept escalating until the inevitable small gain or huge loss)...

______________
anyhow, i try to consolidate important "note to myself that others might also find useful"-type lessons like that by expressing them verbally...i suppose i could just type them into "word" and keep them on my hard disk if others around here can't assimilate anything thing longer or deeper than "they'll prolly lose cuz bullpen suks...'"

LVHerbie · 07-29-12, 03:47 AM

I wish it was always this easy...

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Koldazzice · 07-29-12, 04:25 AM

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sweet nailed it thx lou, Grats to my bro's who also got some +ev and scored

TheCentaur · 07-29-12, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by fitguy67

Good one...i tend toward verbosity (it's an occupational hazard)...I like to think i'm "shedding light"...but very often I'm just "shedding"

)...

I actually did win...but noticed that i was down at least quadruple the prize before i mindlessly started "chasing" (in ways i'd never do with a series of sports bets)...and know that if instead of getting bailed out with the large bets that saved me, i'd stayed cold...then i'd have been down MUCH more than quadruple...and am quite sure that i'd just as automatically have kept escalating until the inevitable small gain or huge loss)...

______________
anyhow, i try to consolidate important "note to myself that others might also find useful"-type lessons like that by expressing them verbally...i suppose i could just type them into "word" and keep them on my hard disk if others around here can't assimilate anything thing longer or deeper than "they'll prolly lose cuz bullpen suks...'"

No its looks like you were spot on after all...

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fitguy67 · 07-29-12, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by TheCentaur

No its looks like you were spot on after all...

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that DEFINITELY would have been me if i didn't hit a shit-luck 3-in-a-row one-hundred-pointers when i was down 400...if i'd gone 1-2 or 0-3...i'd been in deep water like where u ended up (and wisely called it quits)...might have even gone tilt-city and resorted to the max-200s which would have only killed me cuz i got almost 6k points right now...that's the problem with the max-200...it's big enough to keep hurting you...but not big enough to really dig yourself out of a jam...so once you're a 1000 or more down...and you're pissed and "want revenge"...u really can't get back..u just keep "saw-toothing" down with the house-edge killing u slowly...i know, i've done it more than i care to admit)

anyhow, u know now what i was trying to say...what I was trying to warn myself and others about...in sport-betting, it's exactly what's wrong with "marty" and "labby" methods...nearby targets but monstrous-sized losses you risk in pursuit of them...you "dodge the bullet" MOST of the time...making you think you're bullet proof...but eventually/inevitably (=not if but when)...the one losing streak that goes on "just one bet" too long and all those little gains you registered along the way just evaporate

so condolences, bro'...on the bright side it's only about $50...well spent if we learn about the wisdom of accumulating large losses while chasing after only a small net gain

InTheDrink · 07-29-12, 07:29 AM

thanks sbr!

andywend · 07-29-12, 07:48 AM

Thanks Lou:

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milwaukee mike · 07-29-12, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by fitguy67

thanks for the extra 6 bucks and for the motivation to find/brush up an old "binomial distribution" spreadsheet i had almost forgotten about (i played roulette this time 'round...cuz i thought the "baccarat" gods would punish me for pressing my luck=taking them for granted)...

_________________

The genius behind SBR (all cainos actually) goes beyond marketing into the realm of "behavior modification" and is based on one simple fact:
**guys are suckers for three things...the promise of beer, points, and

...put the words "free" and/or "more" in front of any of these (explicitly or even just implicitly)...and you'll instantly convert an adult being into a mindless zombie-child

How many of us, that eventually "won" the 100 we were after, even noticed just how much we were down or were theoretically prepared to go down (probably MANY multiples of 100...in most cases we'd keep chasing if necessary till all the points in our kitty were gone or we'd hit our target)

....this kind of promo has a ratio of winners to losers of say 8:1, each with a net win of $100-ish...but the average loss of the losers would be typically MORE than 800 (given the fact that most of us will never specify at the outset the exact point where they would "say uncle"...and even if we did, we'd probably just violate it any way and keep going till either we hit the target or busted the account).

THIS psychological tendency (which i call "idiot-wiring") is why casinos consistently kill people...it's not with the house edge. Sharp customers (a tiny minority) have developed the ability to over-ride the idiot-wiring with mathematical-awareness of gaming situations...but most of us remain square idiots...especially if we sense that more beer/$/points/

are around the corner. And such hard-to-develop sharpness is not generally transferable to new situations ...so even the sharpest sport bettor, who always caps & shops carefully and never chases can be the biggest fish in the casino (=have no idea of the odds involved in the game and have no ability to stop other than "hit target or hit pavement").

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the net win is not "100-ish" it's 200 after the bonus.

i think most here play a single hand for around 100 and then try 200 if they lose and that's it. 75% chance of winning 200 and 25% chance of losing 300.

after being down 300 there's no reason to chase unless you make another 400 point bet. the chances of coming back 100 at a time don't really overcome the juice

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thanks SBR!

fitguy67 · 07-29-12, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by milwaukee mike

the net win is not "100-ish" it's 200 after the bonus.

i think most here play a single hand for around 100 and then try 200 if they lose and that's it. 75% chance of winning 200 and 25% chance of losing 300.

after being down 300 there's no reason to chase unless you make another 400 point bet. the chances of coming back 100 at a time don't really overcome the juice

well said...if you go at it with a gameplan like that you know the promo is eV over the lot of 'em (even if you eat 300 on any particular one)...AND...you save a hell of a lot of time over "grinding" unnecessarily (which allows the house edge to do more damage as you noted)...

i'll go at it your way next time...crisp and clear...the key being to decide beforehand where this very limited series ends for you and stick to it (and wait till the next promo...where you'll be in effect continuing under the favorable +eV conditions...rather than get lured by your stubborness and impatience into a potentially dangerous chase-grind with ever-worsening prospects)

milwaukee mike · 07-29-12, 08:54 AM

exactly fitguy. and for those that want less risk just do the 100 once.
out of probably 20 of these types of promos and blackjack promos, i think i have only lost once and made a ton of points on the others.

Straight Cash · 07-29-12, 11:16 AM

Thanks SBR

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mr. leisure · 07-29-12, 11:27 AM

Nice promo sbr

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