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  • PickWinnerAllDay
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    • 08-31-11
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    #1
    Why is Price only -130??


    You'd think the future Cy Young winner would command a little bit more respect over Mike Gonzalez, especially considering he's already dominated Baltimore once this year.

    Jun 1 vs BAL W 5-0 7.1 4 0 0 0 2 5 10 9 113 26 73
    Any thoughts on why the line is so low? I don't know if I'm going to take the Rays on the money line, just curious to see what some people think on this.
  • Regul8er
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    • 11-06-07
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    #2
    I think its a fair road price, considering the success Gonzalez has had (although) limited.

    The Rays are still an offensively challenged team. Can they score 3 runs for Price?
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    • PickWinnerAllDay
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      • 08-31-11
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      #3
      1. Nick Markakis (L) RF
      2. J.J. Hardy (R) SS
      3. Adam Jones (R) CF
      4. Matt Wieters (S) DH
      5. Wilson Betemit (S) 3B
      6. Mark Reynolds (R) 1B
      7. Taylor Teagarden (R) C
      8. Omar Quintanilla (L) 2B
      9. Steve Tolleson (R) LF
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      • PickWinnerAllDay
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        • 08-31-11
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        #4
        Originally posted by Regul8er
        I think its a fair road price, considering the success Gonzalez has had (although) limited.

        The Rays are still an offensively challenged team. Can they score 3 runs for Price?
        28 year old rookie? Both teams are offensively in a funk so I don't think that should be an issue. We also know that no one in the Orioles lineup hits Price very well besides for Wieters (and Teaparty in 3 at bats)
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        • sportsguy04
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          • 10-21-08
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          #5
          Under 8.5?
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          • easyliving
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            #6
            that orioles lineup looks horrible. Think their offensive struggles continue against Price. Very tempted to take Baltimore TT Under 3.5 @+105 on 5dimes
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            • PickWinnerAllDay
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              • 08-31-11
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              #7
              Originally posted by sportsguy04
              Under 8.5?
              Every single thing I've looked at points that way.

              Baltimore 9 runs last 4 games
              Rays 9 runs last 4 games

              Rays don't hit righties well, Orioles middle of the pack vs lefties, Price has been best pitcher in baseball the last 6 starts... May just go under and if Rays win like 10-0 I'll kick myself repeatedly. I don't see Price giving up much at all but team total limit is tiny for me.
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              • sportsguy04
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                • 10-21-08
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                #8
                Yes I know.
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                • Regul8er
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                  • 11-06-07
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                  #9
                  I wouldnt play the 28 year old rookie card...considering Vogelsong got back to the league at 34 after not pitching in the MLB for 6 years.
                  Some guys figure it out later in life.
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                  • rfr3sh
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                    • 11-07-09
                    • 10229

                    #10
                    these guys had some success against price

                    David Price (tb) - throws L at bal - 7:05 PM ET - Camden Yards
                    BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
                    Taylor Teagarden R 3 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 .667 .667 1.333 2.000
                    Nick Johnson L 4 2 1 0 0 1 0 2 .500 .500 .750 1.250
                    Brian Roberts S 10 3 0 1 0 3 2 1 .300 .385 .500 .885
                    Matt Wieters S 21 7 2 0 0 1 2 7 .333 .391 .429 .820
                    Nick Markakis L 26 8 1 1 0 2 3 8 .308 .367 .423 .790
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                    • PickWinnerAllDay
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                      • 08-31-11
                      • 12722

                      #11
                      as long as Gonzalez throws strikes, he should be fine. A little worried about his control. Only thing holding me back on the under.
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                      • PickWinnerAllDay
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                        • 08-31-11
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by rfr3sh
                        these guys had some success against price

                        David Price (tb) - throws L at bal - 7:05 PM ET - Camden Yards
                        BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
                        Taylor Teagarden R 3 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 .667 .667 1.333 2.000
                        Nick Johnson L 4 2 1 0 0 1 0 2 .500 .500 .750 1.250
                        Brian Roberts S 10 3 0 1 0 3 2 1 .300 .385 .500 .885
                        Matt Wieters S 21 7 2 0 0 1 2 7 .333 .391 .429 .820
                        Nick Markakis L 26 8 1 1 0 2 3 8 .308 .367 .423 .790
                        7 at bats between 2 guys and Brian Roberts isn't alive is he? Well, if he is, he's not currently active.

                        The bigger bats all struggle... Hardy, Jones, Reynolds... guys you worry about taking you deep and messing up your under.
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                        • Inkwell77
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                          • 02-03-11
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                          #13
                          Kershaw had a complete game shut out of St Louis the previous time he faced them this season. Last night he gave up a bunch of runs.
                          Not sure if there is any correlation between pitchers dominating a team previously and then putting up a commanding performance in the next game.
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                          • PickWinnerAllDay
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                            • 08-31-11
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Inkwell77
                            Kershaw had a complete game shut out of St Louis the previous time he faced them this season. Last night he gave up a bunch of runs.
                            Not sure if there is any correlation between pitchers dominating a team previously and then putting up a commanding performance in the next game.
                            True that. I would say there is probably a correlation between your last 6 outings and your future one. It might not be a 100% correlation but it is better than throwing darts.
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                            • rfr3sh
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                              • 11-07-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                              7 at bats between 2 guys and Brian Roberts isn't alive is he? Well, if he is, he's not currently active.

                              The bigger bats all struggle... Hardy, Jones, Reynolds... guys you worry about taking you deep and messing up your under.
                              yeah i know just saying they might be able to hit him also what would you price him at seems like anything over -130 would be too much
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                              • You mad bro
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                True that. I would say there is probably a correlation between your last 6 outings and your future one. It might not be a 100% correlation but it is better than throwing darts.
                                Price > kershaw

                                Kershaw pitches in a weak offensive nl west division compared to price pitching in an offensive al east ...

                                Im all over price tonight to shut down the orioles ....



                                Pwad btw dude baltimores offense is worse than tampas except for home runs and slugging .... Price should dominate tonight
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                                • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                  • 08-31-11
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                  yeah i know just saying they might be able to hit him also what would you price him at seems like anything over -130 would be too much
                                  I would just have expected -150 here, that's all. Too much credit been given to Gonzalez... that being said, I might be on the under because the Rays can't score that many off anyone on the road.
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                                  • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                    • 08-31-11
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by You mad bro
                                    Price > kershaw

                                    Kershaw pitches in a weak offensive nl west division compared to price pitching in an offensive al east ...

                                    Im all over price tonight to shut down the orioles ....



                                    Pwad btw dude baltimores offense is worse than tampas except for home runs and slugging .... Price should dominate tonight
                                    Price is a Vanderbilt guy. Very smart out there. Kershaw has similar stuff but he is a mental midget. I'd definitely take Price, Price would probably post a sub 2 ERA in LA LA land, Kershaw would probably get touched up to 3.75 or so in the AL East.
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                                    • rfr3sh
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                                      • 11-07-09
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                                      #19
                                      these have been the matchups where the road team is -150 would you say its as much as these
                                      view 4/5/2012 away Dodgers Kershaw - L Padres Volquez - R 3-May 2 W 2 O 5-Jul 0-3 Apr-00 -150 6 9
                                      view 4/9/2012 away Yankees Nova - R Orioles Matusz - L 2-Jun 4 W -1.5 U 13-Nov 0-1 May-00 -150 9.5 9
                                      view ######## away Rangers Harrison - L Twins Swarzak - R 1-Apr 3 W -3.5 U 8-Sep 0-1 1-Mar -150 8.5 9
                                      view ######## away Phillies Halladay - R Padres Luebke - L 5-Jan -4 L 0.5 O 8-Mar 0-1 0-5 -150 5.5 9
                                      view ######## away Reds Cueto - R Cubs Wells - R 3-Apr 1 W 0.5 O 6-Jul 2-Mar Feb-00 -150 6.5 9
                                      view 5/4/2012 away Cardinals Lohse - R Astros Harrell - R 5-Apr -1 L 0.5 O 8-Sep 1-Feb 3-Jan -150 8.5 9
                                      Recap Date Site Team Starter Opp Starter Score SUm W/L OUm O/U Hits Errors BL Line Total Innings
                                      view ######## away Blue Jays Romero - L Twins Diamond - L 4-Mar -1 L -1 U 10-Oct 1-Jan 0-4 -150 8 9
                                      view ######## away Yankees Sabathia - L Orioles Chen - L 5-Feb -3 L -1 U 9-May 0-0 0-4 -150 8 9
                                      view ######## away Angels Haren - R Padres Stults - L 3-Feb -1 L -1.5 U 7-Jun 2-Jan 1-Jan -150 6.5 9
                                      view 6/6/2012 away Rangers Lewis - R Athletics Colon - R 0-2 -2 L -5.5 U 6-May 0-0 0-2 -150 7.5 9
                                      view 6/7/2012 away Cardinals Lynn - R Astros Happ - L 14-2 12 W 7.5 O 16-7 0-1 2-Dec -150 8.5 9
                                      view 6/7/2012 away Rangers Darvish - R Athletics McCarthy - R 7-Jan -6 L 0.5 O 7-Apr 0-0 0-6 -150 7.5 9
                                      view 6/9/2012 away Tigers Verlander - R Reds Arroyo - R 2-Mar 1 W -2.5 U 6-Jul 0-0 Feb-00 -150 7.5 9
                                      view ######## away Nationals Zimmermann - R Rockies Cabrera - L 5-Nov 6 W 5.5 O 14-14 3-Feb Oct-00 -150 10.5 9
                                      view 7/1/2012 away Angels Wilson - L Blue Jays Laffey - L 6-Oct 4 W 6.5 O 13-6 3-Mar Jul-00 -150 9.5 9
                                      view ######## away Phillies Lee - L Rockies Friedrich - L 6-Feb -4 L -2 U 12-Jul Feb-00 0-5 -150 10 9
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                                      • You mad bro
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                        Price is a Vanderbilt guy. Very smart out there. Kershaw has similar stuff but he is a mental midget. I'd definitely take Price, Price would probably post a sub 2 ERA in LA LA land, Kershaw would probably get touched up to 3.75 or so in the AL East.
                                        His era would at least be 3.5 in the al east ... Which isn't bad but it's so much different pitching in the al east vs the nl west
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                                        • rm18
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                                          • 09-20-05
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                                          #21
                                          There is more value betting TB 1st 5 I am playing that
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                                          • You mad bro
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rm18
                                            There is more value betting TB 1st 5 I am playing that

                                            How if price goes an average of 7 a game with a 2 era??? And their bullpen had been pretty solid ....
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                              #23
                                              something tells me over.
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                                              • rm18
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by You mad bro
                                                How if price goes an average of 7 a game with a 2 era??? And their bullpen had been pretty solid ....
                                                Well the Orioles have a better lineup and a pretty good bullpen, the 2nd 4 innings should be low scoring but i think the O's have a small advantage
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                                                • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                  • 08-31-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                  something tells me over.
                                                  Hope you're wrong. Just unloaded on the under.
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                                                  • You mad bro
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rm18
                                                    Well the Orioles have a better lineup and a pretty good bullpen, the 2nd 4 innings should be low scoring but i think the O's have a small advantage
                                                    Their offenses are pretty much the same now .. Orioles haven't hit anything as of late ... But hey who knows I'm on price for the game lets get it


                                                    GOod luck !!
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                                                    • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                      • 08-31-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      I think my big under 8.5 bet moved the line... now its already 8 -110 at heritage
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                                                      • hawley
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                        I think my big under 8.5 bet moved the line... now its already 8 -110 at heritage

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                                                        • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                          • 08-31-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by hawley
                                                          I went pretty big on this one hawley... In Price I trust
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                                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                            • 01-02-12
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                            Hope you're wrong. Just unloaded on the under.
                                                            gl but it's a weird line for both. price opened at -140 total at 8. public on price but the price goes down for price and the total goes all the way up to 9 and back down to 8.5/8. don't like this game too much.
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                                                            • You mad bro
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                              I went pretty big on this one hawley... In Price I trust
                                                              Whats your input on Detroit tonight ???
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                                                              • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                                • 08-31-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by You mad bro
                                                                Whats your input on Detroit tonight ???
                                                                Not much. Haven't paid much attention to Lowe or max lately. Both inconsistent.
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                                                                • You mad bro
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                                  Not much. Haven't paid much attention to Lowe or max lately. Both inconsistent.
                                                                  You gonna be on anything else?
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                                                                  • Balco10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hope you right! Drop a 100 on the under 8.5 -120
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                                                                    • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                                      • 08-31-11
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by You mad bro
                                                                      You gonna be on anything else?
                                                                      Nah, that's it for today most likely unless I see a second half I love.

                                                                      I already nailed the Cubs under for 3K so tonight will be a very very good night or a bad one. At least very very bad is impossible.
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