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  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    why was penn st let off so lightly?
    Football program should have been banned for 10 years at least. $ 60 mil penalty means fukk all. Its just a big #. School should be relgated to ncaa-div 2.
  • iifold
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    • 04-25-10
    • 11111

    #2
    Lightly

    That was a Jesse Jackson Shakedown...
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    • PickWinnerAllDay
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      • 08-31-11
      • 12722

      #3
      Lightly? You admittedly don't watch college sports so you have no idea the effects all this will have on PSU football.

      This was basically just as bad as the death penalty. The program is just as devastated.
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      • No coincidences
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        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #4
        It's going to be interesting to see how many kids transfer.
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        • Deuce
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          • 01-12-08
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          #5
          Team buried for a decade because of this. Feel bad for alum from 98-11 though. Played like warriors only to be basically appear as if they never played.
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          • ChalkyDog
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            • 10-02-11
            • 9598

            #6
            At first it seems light, IMO. 60 mil is a decent hit, the wins being taken away are as symbolic as anything and even after all sanctions were listed, the people at Penn were most upset about the wins being taken away.

            When you get down to it though, this is far worse than the death penalty. Penn St. wont be back for a long time, they wont be able to recruit.

            Their coach is there for as long as he wants to currently. Nobody will want to be hired on there.

            Peen St. is done,
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            • BigDeem5
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              • 02-26-11
              • 17191

              #7
              Shoulda got death penalty.
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              • PickWinnerAllDay
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                • 08-31-11
                • 12722

                #8
                Big 10 should kick PSU out and throw whatever they have to at ND to get it done for once.
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                • MoneyLineDawg
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                  • 01-01-09
                  • 13253

                  #9
                  Theyre fukked for a generation.....there's still a decent chance the big ten kicks them out though. Need 9 of 12 votes
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                  • PickWinnerAllDay
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                    • 08-31-11
                    • 12722

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                    Theyre fukked for a generation.....there's still a decent chance the big ten kicks them out though. Need 9 of 12 votes
                    Nobody likes PSU in the Big 10 from my experience. Never really a member... just an outcast. I think they'll get kicked out. They bring nothing to the table with basketball or football or baseball.
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                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                      • 06-10-10
                      • 13024

                      #11
                      They are done. Who would go there? TT is devastated he never got a chance to play in showers as a fat little warrior.
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                      • PickWinnerAllDay
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                        • 08-31-11
                        • 12722

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                        They are done. Who would go there? TT is devastated he never got a chance to play in showers as a fat little warrior.
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                        • No coincidences
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                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #13
                          One of the most devastating punishments to the program is the loss of 20 scholarships. Do you know how hard it will be for them to be competitive at all with 75% of what everyone else is working with?
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                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                            • 01-01-09
                            • 13253

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                            Nobody likes PSU in the Big 10 from my experience. Never really a member... just an outcast. I think they'll get kicked out. They bring nothing to the table with basketball or football or baseball.
                            Yeah, the Big Ten has dropped some hints about it over the past few weeks.......And if they don't get kicked out they're going to be stomped for years week in and week out......They might compete against Indiana and Minnesota......Maybe
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                            • PickWinnerAllDay
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                              • 08-31-11
                              • 12722

                              #15
                              Big 10 officials will be making sure they go 0-8 in the Big 10 this year anyway if they are allowed to stay in. I hope there are some low line games with Indiana or Minnesota... I'm going huge on Minnesota/Indiana/Iowa/etc... they'll get all the calls.

                              Just like Nebraska got every call last year against PSU
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #16
                                No punishment would fit the crime. I have a very close family member who was sexually abused and raped as a 7 year girl.

                                Trust me this is light punishment.
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                                • Deuce
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                                  • 01-12-08
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                  No punishment would fit the crime. I have a very close family member who was sexually abused and raped as a 7 year girl.

                                  Trust me this is light punishment.
                                  Well those whom actually should be punished, one has life in prison the other is dead. What else should be done? Punish the students who pay to go there? Punish the fan base? What is your angle? One man brought an entire legacy to its knees.
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                                  • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                    • 08-31-11
                                    • 12722

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                    No punishment would fit the crime. I have a very close family member who was sexually abused and raped as a 7 year girl.

                                    Trust me this is light punishment.
                                    If their goal was to punish people who are dead, in jail, or will be in jail soon, they are fighting a losing battle.

                                    They basically just punished innocent players, alums, students, and new coaches. It is all silly in my book.
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                                    • boeing power
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                                      • 03-23-10
                                      • 9698

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                      No punishment would fit the crime. I have a very close family member who was sexually abused and raped as a 7 year girl.

                                      Trust me this is light punishment.
                                      Trust me I'm on your side,

                                      But at least Sandusky will die in prison.

                                      In Canada he would get 20 months in jail.

                                      In this case Americans do it right.
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                                      • lakerboy
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                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94379

                                        #20
                                        Jo pa is the biggest fraud of all times. He died before he could see his punishments.
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                                        • No coincidences
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                                          • 01-18-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                          Jo pa is the biggest fraud of all times. He died before he could see his punishments.
                                          Again, that's the problem. All of the punishment now swallows up a program full of people post-Weekend at Bernie's.
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                                          • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                            • 08-31-11
                                            • 12722

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Jo pa is the biggest fraud of all times. He died before he could see his punishments.
                                            Sandusky ruined the program in my book.

                                            To be honest, this news leaking about Sandusky would have buried Penn State even if they handled it correctly.

                                            You guys can argue it wouldn't have... but once this story hit the news about the showers and the coach and all that, PSU would have taken a major, major recruiting hit and been far from elite for a long time.

                                            They swept it under the rug to avoid it...
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                                            • Chimneyfish
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                                              • 09-30-10
                                              • 1217

                                              #23
                                              What they got is worse than the death penalty. It could take up to a decade for them to fully recover from the impact of not being able to develop players through a lack of scholarships and recruits wanting to play in bowl games.
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                                              • Deuce
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                                                • 01-12-08
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                Jo pa is the biggest fraud of all times. He died before he could see his punishments.
                                                The AD whom JoPa told about the pedophile is responsible as well as Mcqueery for not bashing the pedophiles head into the shower wall. JoPa is as well but those two held just as much power in my book within the entire situation. The entire staff and athletic boar should get at least 10 in prison for knowing and doing nothing. Not the football team that currently has and had nothing to do with it.
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                                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                  • 13253

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                  Sandusky ruined the program in my book.

                                                  To be honest, this news leaking about Sandusky would have buried Penn State even if they handled it correctly.

                                                  You guys can argue it wouldn't have... but once this story hit the news about the showers and the coach and all that, PSU would have taken a major, major recruiting hit and been far from elite for a long time.

                                                  They swept it under the rug to avoid it...
                                                  It would have buried them.....for like a year or 2. They could have easily spun it though as being heroes if they stopped it initially and donated to child abuse causes, etc.

                                                  No getting out of this one.....buried for eternity

                                                  And either way it's a ridiculous way to look at it.....How do you sweep THAT under the rug and then see Sandusky at practices with a new child and just let that go?? It's fukkin sick.....
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                                                  • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                    • 08-31-11
                                                    • 12722

                                                    #26
                                                    If Mike McQueerball had some balls, he goes straight to the REAL police and tells him everything in full detail.

                                                    If that happened, PSU program is recovering right now, Joe Pa is probably alive... Sandusky already been in jail for 14 years, probably killed himself by now.

                                                    Thanks a lot, Mike, ya fire crotch bastard!
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                                                    • boeing power
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                                                      • 03-23-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                      Sandusky ruined the program in my book.

                                                      To be honest, this news leaking about Sandusky would have buried Penn State even if they handled it correctly.

                                                      You guys can argue it wouldn't have... but once this story hit the news about the showers and the coach and all that, PSU would have taken a major, major recruiting hit and been far from elite for a long time.

                                                      They swept it under the rug to avoid it...
                                                      Youre 100% correct

                                                      And Paterno chose the program over stopping child abuse.

                                                      He got off easy with cancer, the fukin coward.
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                                                      • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                        • 01-01-09
                                                        • 13253

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Deuce
                                                        The AD whom JoPa told about the pedophile is responsible as well as Mcqueery for not bashing the pedophiles head into the shower wall. JoPa is as well but those two held just as much power in my book within the entire situation. The entire staff and athletic boar should get at least 10 in prison for knowing and doing nothing. Not the football team that currently has and had nothing to do with it.
                                                        They should tie them all up in a fukkin cell and let a bunch of monster black prisoners have their way for as long as they want......prison guards can look the other way and sweep it under the rug
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                                                        • lakerboy
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                                                          • 04-02-09
                                                          • 94379

                                                          #29
                                                          I might kill sandusky myself.
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                                                          • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                            • 08-31-11
                                                            • 12722

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by boeing power
                                                            Youre 100% correct

                                                            And Paterno chose the program over stopping child abuse.

                                                            He got off easy with cancer, the fukin coward.
                                                            Awful decision, no question... But ultimately I still blame the sick bastard that felt the need to do it 99% of it. Joe Pa did a lot of good with charity, think all the good and all the bad even out personally, so in my mind, he has no legacy anymore.
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                                                            • greenhippo
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                                                              • 02-15-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                                                              Big 10 should kick PSU out and throw whatever they have to at ND to get it done for once.
                                                              Big 10 doesn't have enough money to get ND to join.
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                                                              • Deuce
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                                                                • 01-12-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                                They should tie them all up in a fukkin cell and let a bunch of monster black prisoners have their way for as long as they want......prison guards can look the other way and sweep it under the rug
                                                                From what I read, even the CO's in lock up look the other way when the pedophiles are getting buried. Prisoners don't take kindly to child abusers, especially sexual predators. Sandusky will get his day, don't worry about that. That sick fukk will be used like a fukkin blow up doll and rightfully so.
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                                                                • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                                  • 08-31-11
                                                                  • 12722

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by greenhippo
                                                                  Big 10 doesn't have enough money to get ND to join.
                                                                  ND just full of shit. Big 10 has more money than ANY conference.
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                                                                  • cjwatsonfan32
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                                                                    • 01-24-11
                                                                    • 1640

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This is worse than the death penalty. Do i think its fair? Hard to say either way. Since this is the first of its kind, there really has been no set precedent for punishment. No question something had to be done, but a lot of lives who had nothing to do with this are affected. $60 million that can't be taken away from athletic scholarships, has to come from a fund that will affect current students, which is extremely unfair. As for wins taken away from Joe Paterno...all for it. But remember he was one coach. There were 85 players every season from 1998-2011 that had no idea of the criminal acts going on, and yet they are paying for it. I feel extremely bad for the victims of these terrible crimes, but to then start going ballistic with punishments that affect others who had nothing to do with the molestation, is kind of rash and unfair. The men behind this are either dead, in jail, or going to jail. Why it affects future students and student athletes is something that doesn't make much sense to me.
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                                                                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                      • 01-01-09
                                                                      • 13253

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Joe Pa is easily most to blame besides obviously Sandusky.....If he wanted something done/looked into more at Penn St, it fukkin happened......If he wanted something kept quiet and swept under the rug, especially involving a football coach, it fukkin happened at Penn St

                                                                      No one had any balls and it starts with Joe Pa.....It's fukkin sick how many people knew of Sanduskys actions and watched him "hang out" around campus with new random young boys.....WTF
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