Cleveland Indians (+113) over Tampa Rays is my play of the evening.

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  • a4u2fear
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-29-10
    • 8147

    #36
    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
    In mr. Nash I trust. Blindly tailing again.
    yup
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    • lunchbawks
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-31-10
      • 12873

      #37
      2 rookie starting pitchers, Gl but don't pretend u have some angle here
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65644

        #38
        ^
        I can't win them all, but, you do know how much money I have made since April if you read my long winded stuff.
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        • BiffTFinancial
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-29-09
          • 22670

          #39
          Originally posted by Thurgood
          Just thought I'd point out McAllister was rocked by the Rays right before the All-Star break.
          This is 100% incorrect. McAllister shut out Rays through 5 with 8 Ks and was cruising until Asdrubal Cabrera had 2 errors in the 6th leading to 4 unearned runs. And even after that Tribe should've won but Perez blew his first save since opening day with 3 runs in the 9th.

          BOL to you tonight, you may be right with Rays play but McAllister was throwing rocks until Cabrera gift-wrapped 4 runs in last meeting. Watched every minute of that godawful loss.
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65644

            #40
            Originally posted by lunchbawks
            2 rookie starting pitchers, Gl but don't pretend u have some angle here
            I don't have an angle, Cleveland is a decent road team, McAllister is the better starter, Cleveland hits righties hard, Tampa can't hit their weight at home.
            Those are facts that are backing my wager. I'm don't have an angle, just facts, no systems......

            Hey, I'm smart enough to know, games are won on grass, not paper, you can 'cap a stakes horse race to perfection too, but the horses run on dirt, not off of a daily racing form, so stuff happens, and what looks solid on paper doesn't always pan out on the field.

            I get that. Always have, always will
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            • billysink
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              • 03-29-09
              • 5172

              #41
              Cleveland may not have hit Villeneuava yesterday but their effort should be enough to remind everyone that they are the most patient team in the league. They still drew 5 walks off the Jays starter. That would be more than enough to sink any right hander not having a career strikeout game as CV did yesterday. It would appear that some are placing a bit too much relevance to that game. Flip the boxscore back a day and let us know how that applies to tonight's tilt.

              The Indians lead the league in walks drawn and have an OPS 100 points better off of right hand starters than left.

              Tampa is second in the league in walks drawn but that is easily negated by their league lead in strikeouts.

              There appears to be little value in Tampa here. Cleveland is a better play.
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              • BigDeem5
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-26-11
                • 17191

                #42
                Indians need to put together a win streak, why not start here?
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                • billysink
                  Restricted User
                  • 03-29-09
                  • 5172

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Thurgood
                  Dude, why you getting so defensive? I even said gl and one of us will win. Cleveland still stuck at +112. Heck, the way you make it sound so B&W Michael Jordan might as well load up here $500k on the Tribe and use the "L" word.

                  Books don't just give away money. I capped my games last night. I normally use line shifts to cap and that +112 says please please pound me and over think it.
                  Just wondering how that works. Does the line call you up and say to you "Mr. Thurgood please pound me"?

                  You have yet to explain why there is any value in Tampa at all other than your perceived line movement. A line that opened at Cleveland +127 and now sits at +115 somehow indicates value on the opposite side?

                  Somehow I don't think the books are ever going to have to worry about you overthinking anything.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65644

                    #44
                    Originally posted by billysink
                    Somehow I don't think the books are ever going to have to worry about you overthinking anything.
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                    • romecloneout
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-06-11
                      • 2243

                      #45
                      good luck tonight guy
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                      • JMUplayer
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-27-09
                        • 2765

                        #46
                        I love it when people just ignore stats and facts and blinding just spout off..... (not directed at OP)
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                        • Thurgood
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-17-11
                          • 767

                          #47
                          Originally posted by billysink
                          Just wondering how that works. Does the line call you up and say to you "Mr. Thurgood please pound me"?

                          You have yet to explain why there is any value in Tampa at all other than your perceived line movement. A line that opened at Cleveland +127 and now sits at +115 somehow indicates value on the opposite side?

                          Somehow I don't think the books are ever going to have to worry about you overthinking anything.
                          What does this line movement remind you of? All these stats and facts you guys are spouting off the linemakers KNOW. Card/Reds went just like this. Cards line was hit so hard they were road favs for a short time.

                          I was burned by the Cards last night and a lot of it was overthinking sh*t. Reds were at home, better bullpen, better D, better offense but people place a little too much emphasis on capping pitchers.

                          Anything can happen in baseball and these two pitchers are pretty equivalent. Coin toss like that and you just take the home side, especially when they were getting hits off Beckett the night before. Let me guess, Beckett is not as good as McAllister?

                          I also think there is something to be said about Cleveland's unforced errors and the fact the Rays just beat this team recently.
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                          • Thurgood
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-17-11
                            • 767

                            #48
                            Steve, looking forward to seeing you in this thread during the game and don't go head plank off the balcony because the Rays take an 8-0 lead or something.

                            As my Asian friends in the baccarat room would say, never bet against a streak! Tribe on a two game losing streak and I hope it holds up.
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                            • konck
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-17-06
                              • 12554

                              #49
                              Everything really pts to Clev here the only thing I want to watch for is to much public backing for Clev thats the only thing that would knock me off this game otherwise im Clev/Nats parlay I think Zambrano is going to start trashing things soon
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65644

                                #50
                                Originally posted by konck
                                Everything really pts to Clev here the only thing I want to watch for is to much public backing for Clev thats the only thing that would knock me off this game otherwise im Clev/Nats parlay I think Zambrano is going to start trashing things soon
                                What's scary is I love Z myself tonight.
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65644

                                  #51
                                  Holy Mother of God.
                                  86 percent of the money line is on Tampa.

                                  Free Las Vegas Lines & Odds comparisons for NFL, MLB, NBA, NCAA and other sports.
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                                  • konck
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-17-06
                                    • 12554

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    Holy Mother of God.
                                    86 percent of the money line is on Tampa.

                                    http://www.scoresandodds.com/casinogrid.html
                                    The money actually went on Clev the line went down 2 sites I check have Clev 46% 58%
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                                    • konck
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-17-06
                                      • 12554

                                      #53
                                      But im on clev/nats im wondering if Zam went back home on the break to juice though.
                                      That scares me.
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                                      • Thurgood
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-17-11
                                        • 767

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        What's scary is I love Z myself tonight.
                                        Tribe looks good vs the Rays. Good call. I'll admit when I'm wrong.

                                        Anyone getting buried by Zona? I am.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65644

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Thurgood
                                          Tribe looks good vs the Rays. Good call. I'll admit when I'm wrong.

                                          Anyone getting buried by Zona? I am.
                                          No, I'm on Cleveland and Arizona.
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                                          • the_situation
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-22-10
                                            • 2735

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                            a) Yankee fan, don't give a crap about these two teams unless there is money involved.
                                            b) Cleveland Indians hit .275 against right handed pitching, that's third best in the majors.
                                            c) Cleveland Indians lead the majors in OBA against right handed pitchers.
                                            d) Yes, Villanueva was lights out yesterday, the '27 Yankees would have been shut out.
                                            e) Yes, Villanueva is right handed, he's on a different level then Alex Cobb, they are facing Cobb tonight, not Villanueva.
                                            f) You don't handicap off of one game, you handicap on an entire body of work. If the Cubs beat Kershaw last night, would you bet them again tonight if they were facing NYY or Texas?

                                            g) Btw not a Tampa homer at all. I just know they can hit in their own ballpark.
                                            Really? Really? Are you some kind of masochist? Do you really enjoy me embarrassing you? Do you like the taste of your foot in your mouth?
                                            NOW PAY ATTENTION! The Tampa Rays hit .221 at home. I'll say it again real slow ...TWO...TWENTY...ONE.
                                            That is good for 29th out of 30th in home batting average? If you knew that, you wouldn't say this "I just know they can hit in their own ballpark"

                                            Looking forward to your next post. I really am.

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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #57
                                              damn bases loaded with no outs and cleveland couldn't get any runs. hope that doesn't hurt us in the end. we just need 4 more outs...
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                                              • Thurgood
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-17-11
                                                • 767

                                                #58
                                                Nice win Tampa faders!
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                                                • JordyB
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 06-22-12
                                                  • 30

                                                  #59
                                                  Thanks guy i bet the indians and under looking forward to more.
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                                                  • Pauulzcappin
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-23-10
                                                    • 20295

                                                    #60
                                                    nash. took them as well.
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                                                    • Heisenberg
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 07-09-12
                                                      • 80

                                                      #61
                                                      Thanks Nash! Nice pick
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                                                      • GamblerSpirit
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-18-11
                                                        • 4085

                                                        #62
                                                        NASH nice one
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                                                        • briedward
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-24-12
                                                          • 982

                                                          #63
                                                          Ok I'm a believer in Steve. Any chance you can post who you like the night before?
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                                                          • Grits n' Gravy
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 13024

                                                            #64
                                                            Nice call Mr. Nash.
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                                                            • hawley
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                                                              • 05-10-10
                                                              • 14270

                                                              #65
                                                              Nash you sick fukker. Nice hit!
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                                                              • kingofhoarbags
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 03-10-12
                                                                • 329

                                                                #66
                                                                Great call again. Thanks Nash.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65644

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                  Nice call Mr. Nash.
                                                                  Thanks Grits, everybody else too.
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                                                                  • a4u2fear
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-29-10
                                                                    • 8147

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Steve is best MLb spot bettor. When is Corbin going to stop sucking Mathy and get on the Nash train?
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65644

                                                                      #69
                                                                      ^
                                                                      I don't care about that stuff. There are better out there than me too.
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                                                                      • cdaniels24
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 02-17-12
                                                                        • 319

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                        ^
                                                                        I don't care about that stuff. There are better out there than me too.
                                                                        whats your strongest lean today/
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