LaRussa to start Cain and not Dickey!

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  • will2survive
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-26-09
    • 8099

    #1
    LaRussa to start Cain and not Dickey!
    This guy tries to micro-manage everything with his pitcher hitting 8th. This guy has an ego. He thinks that he invented baseball. R.A. Dickey must get the start whether a knuckleball is difficult to handle or not. What a joke!


    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/blogs/the-cove/Report-Matt-Cain-Named-NL-All-Star-Starting-Pitcher-161785135.html
  • SEAHAWKHARRY
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 11-29-07
    • 26072

    #2
    Matt Cain deserved to start
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    • will2survive
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-26-09
      • 8099

      #3
      Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
      Matt Cain deserved to start

      Dickey is 12-1 with a 2.40 ERA , back to back 1 hitters and 32 2/3 consecutive scoreless innings. Are you CRAZY!!!!!!!
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      • Regul8er
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-06-07
        • 10666

        #4
        Both are deserving in my opinion. You must look at the full body of work in the 1st half....not just a stretch of a few.

        Sure Dickey's overall numbers are a bit number, but it's not by any way overwhelming. Onl spot Cain falls short is record, and that falls solely on run support difference.

        I'd be perfectly fine with either starting.
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        • sweep
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-09-10
          • 16755

          #5
          Who is on more rest?
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          • hydrosmak
            SBR MVP
            • 10-13-11
            • 1908

            #6
            This is certainly nothing to be outraged about. It's just the fukkin all-star game!
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            • PickWinnerAllDay
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-31-11
              • 12722

              #7
              How is Ryan Dempster not on the all star team? Best numbers in the NL.
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              • Barnes & Whine
                SBR MVP
                • 09-29-11
                • 3103

                #8
                Larussa is baseball managerial god, and the baseball gods smile on him whatever he does.

                Don't forget, this is Larussa's last chance to micromanage a game so he is going to go crazy with it.

                He'll probably end up having McCutchen pitch if it goes to extra innings, who knows.
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63182

                  #9
                  barnes is right
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                  • Reload
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-23-08
                    • 12251

                    #10
                    Makes no sense to me that a retired manager gets to even come back for this. Need to come up with a new rule there somehow.
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                    • PickWinnerAllDay
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-31-11
                      • 12722

                      #11
                      Dempster 1.99 ERA 1.01 WHIP... not on All Star team?
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                      • thetrinity
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-25-11
                        • 22444

                        #12
                        doesnt matter only all star game.
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #13
                          "this guy" has won more gms than pretty much anyone in the sport, 4 time manager of the year (should prob have been more), has several WS appearances and a few rings to boot... so show some fukkin respect and take your homer hat off for a second cause RA dickhhead is not the best pitcher in the nl, if TLR (one of the best of all time) doesnt wanna start that gimmicky sideshow act over a REAL pitcher like Cain than that just the way it is..... he wants to win and he probly saw the spankies blow ra dickhead up not all that long ago...
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                          • Vegas39
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-22-11
                            • 30686

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                            Dempster 1.99 ERA 1.01 WHIP... not on All Star team?
                            Cubs end of story
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
                              Dempster 1.99 ERA 1.01 WHIP... not on All Star team?
                              i think he just had the injury at the wrong time or he would surely be there..
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                              • big joe 1212
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-01-08
                                • 19380

                                #16
                                Managers with the best record at the mid-way point should be doing it. They have more incentive to win this game therefore they will pick the best pitchers and manage the right way.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                  Managers with the best record at the mid-way point should be doing it. They have more incentive to win this game therefore they will pick the best pitchers and manage the right way.
                                  you dont think Tony will want to win this gm? i hear what you saying but there no way Larussa isnt in it to win it..
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                                  • ShivaBowl
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 03-09-10
                                    • 5133

                                    #18
                                    Absolute disgrace.. LaRussa last hurrah ride off in the sunset old man
                                    and I agree with Joe dogs the cubs the ******* cubs
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                                    • Snowball
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 11-15-09
                                      • 30076

                                      #19
                                      LaRussa may be the play here..
                                      He could be the story.
                                      I'm feeling it. Final decision tomorrow.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Snowball
                                        LaRussa may be the play here..
                                        He could be the story.
                                        I'm feeling it. Final decision tomorrow.
                                        no other reason to back nl, yet im still doing it on this alone..hopefully he doesnt let dickey into gm
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                                        • KingJD31
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-04-11
                                          • 8167

                                          #21
                                          Giants somehow have 4 starters Cain over Dickey not terrible buy then Pablo over wright and posey over Ruiz? Unreal
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KingJD31
                                            Giants somehow have 4 starters Cain over Dickey not terrible buy then Pablo over wright and posey over Ruiz? Unreal
                                            posey got voted in over Yadi i believe (i know yadi on leave anyway) but wasnt Buster voted ahead of him? dont get me wrong ruiz having a great yr but Yadi is clearly the best catcher in baseball and his offense has been very good as well.

                                            apparently sf fans have lots of time on their hands to figure out ways to vote 1000's of times..
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                                            • becketmcginn
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 03-24-12
                                              • 176

                                              #23
                                              makes sense actually. Have Dickey come in to face the starters after the hard throwing Cain throws 2 innings. Their timing will be all off. Than after Dickey put Strasburg out there.
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by becketmcginn
                                                makes sense actually. Have Dickey come in to face the starters after the hard throwing Cain throws 2 innings. Their timing will be all off. Than after Dickey put Strasburg out there.
                                                lots of sense.. TLR is a genius..
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                                                • Bcatswin
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-21-10
                                                  • 13931

                                                  #25
                                                  Larussa=Fail
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                                                  • 2daBank
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bcatswin
                                                    Larussa=Fail
                                                    shocking coming from a reds fan...who ironically, fail pretty much every year..
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                                                    • waggle
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 04-22-09
                                                      • 34

                                                      #27
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                                                      • becketmcginn
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 03-24-12
                                                        • 176

                                                        #28
                                                        The coke head managing the other side is much better
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                                                        • Killer_Demo
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-15-08
                                                          • 8409

                                                          #29
                                                          SF Matt cain > Dickey SF BITCH
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                                                          • kfranz31
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-09-10
                                                            • 1186

                                                            #30
                                                            thats why he is not coaching anymore
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                                                            • You mad bro
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-15-12
                                                              • 16641

                                                              #31
                                                              Tony Larussa is smart here ... Cain is still better than dickey ... Cain had been putting up good numera for year .. Dickey just this year and against a real hitting team in NNY he got rocked ... Imagine facing hitters like that through an entire lineup ... Dickman would get rocked son
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                                                              • Pauulzcappin
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-23-10
                                                                • 20295

                                                                #32
                                                                LaRussa will outcoach Washington once again...
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                                                                • Iamlong
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 05-09-10
                                                                  • 20

                                                                  #33
                                                                  its not crazy at all..Because this game actually means something he felt his best chance was sandwhiching in the knuckleballer inbetween a hard throwing guy like cain and then another hard throwing guy like strasburg or hamels..that makes Dickey most effective as well..If this game meant nothing I think Dickey would start because as you mentioned he is having the better year slightly..but from a strategy standpoint, I think he has more then justified his decision.
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                                                                  • Chimneyfish
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-30-10
                                                                    • 1217

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by will2survive
                                                                    Dickey is 12-1 with a 2.40 ERA , back to back 1 hitters and 32 2/3 consecutive scoreless innings. Are you CRAZY!!!!!!!
                                                                    But choosing a starter for the All-Star Game isn't the equivalent of picking a first half Cy Young award winner or something. If we were going just by the numbers then Greinke would be starting over both of them- and he didn't even make it on to the roster. Dickey has had a slightly better half than Cain overall, but that doesn't necessarily make him the best pick for this particular game.

                                                                    When one of your two starter options will have the opportunity to pitch to his own catcher, that becomes a big factor. When that battery works so well together that they recently put together a perfect game, that's an even bigger factor. When the alternative option would be have a pitcher tossing knuckleballs to a catcher who's never caught them before, it becomes clear why Cain got the nod here.
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                                                                    • BigDaddy
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-01-06
                                                                      • 8378

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Dickey is going to get hit hard in this game

                                                                      just wait and see
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