Brock Says "No Such Thing As A Trap"

mikeyplata · 07-06-12, 02:53 AM

tomorrows trap: yankees & dodgers

Balco10 · 07-06-12, 02:54 AM

Any Gambler who thinks differently is a JJ fig fruitcake.

Balco10 · 07-06-12, 02:57 AM

4 hour trap Federer...late funds falling large on FED...

Cougar Bait · 07-06-12, 05:50 AM

Brock even winning trap games in bottom of the 9th with two outs

He can't be stopped

StackinGreen · 07-06-12, 06:39 PM

Another reason traps don't make sense is that books are far more concerned about "smart" (big) money. It doesn't make much sense to me to entice any more or any less than what they are comfortable with, which is what they always do. I agree they take risks and never have complete 50/50 action, but the imbalance that exists is referred to as a trap only by novices, in my opinion

Cougar Bait · 07-06-12, 06:42 PM

StackingGreen what traps you on tonight?

I took Mets

MonkeyF0cker · 07-06-12, 06:52 PM

Every game is a trap for Brock Landers.

Smutbucket · 07-06-12, 07:06 PM

Amen, stackin green. "traps" are nothing more than taking advantage of public perception. odds are sometimes even influenced by the public perception than ACTUAL HANDICAPPING (see okc/heat finals, espn analysts were busting a nut over the "athleticism" of okc, haha what a joke, paid to preach bullshit, thats what our media has become, after game 1 the bottom line was flooding with stats like "team that takes game 1 wins 76% of time in finals" this is to the extent of traps can exist, even though those who dig deep and actually look at the numbers realize their is MORE VALUE on a certain side than their ought to be. but public perception only effects llines to an extent

StackinGreen · 07-06-12, 09:24 PM

Is it true Landers is killing games right now? I got "trapped" on the Beckett/Kuroda under, although overs are always bet more by the public, so go figure. It was OVER in the 1st inning!

I guess that's better than going over in the 9th ...

I was on a nice roll and then I got a little bold there. Hey, character comes out when you get back up, doesn't it? We'll see if anything stands out tomorrow. Good luck boys.

Cougar Bait · 07-07-12, 04:12 AM

Luckily I didn't get trapped by the White Sox, Brewers, or A's. But fukk the Mets.

Cougar Bait · 07-25-12, 04:18 AM

Dempster and Cubs at + money looks like a trap today

jarvol · 07-25-12, 05:53 AM

Kershaw +120 or so last night in STL was a big trap and Brock was all over it hook, line, and sinker.

agendaman · 07-25-12, 07:19 AM

seems to me if there really are traps /somebody would have written a book on how to avoid them

Cougar Bait · 07-28-12, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by agendaman

seems to me if there really are traps /somebody would have written a book on how to avoid them

Not sure what the ones I have pointed out are as far as +/- but my guess is they are + money betting against the trap

Reds looks like the trap today

I took this one though

PerfectGrape · 07-28-12, 01:09 PM

I read an Ask Reddit ask me anything with a linesetter and he said this:
"
The idea is that if we know something you don't and think we can predict the outcome, we make the line crazy and you take it blindly. Say we somehow ran all the numbers and knew the seahawks would beat the saints, instead of making it saints -10.5 we'd make it saints -3.5 so everyone takes the saints and we clean up.

It's obviously not as drastic as this but you get the idea. "

http://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/f118r/as_requested_iama_line_setter_at_a_sportsbook_ama/

LVHerbie · 07-28-12, 01:13 PM

Like Obama cleaning up in November Brock is spot on with this one as well...

LVHerbie · 07-28-12, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Balco10

In short, yes there is traps. Odds makers even claim there are traps.

And pit bosses freaking out when someone "gets hot" at a craps table have been know to do silly things like change the dice, try to slow the game down to throw off timing, and sprinkling salt on the table...

konck · 07-28-12, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Doesnt fukking exist, been betting since 1995 and not once did I use the word "trap"

The idiot falls into them time after time ....if the public is pounding something that looks way to easy usually it isnt

and that's why the legend is a great fade

str · 07-28-12, 01:34 PM

Call it what ever you want Brock.

Trap, sandwich, let down, etc.

It's simply when something looks easier than it really is, no matter what field you are in.

If you are human, it exists.

In life, nothing is actually easy IMO.

thetrinity · 07-28-12, 01:37 PM

no traps. nothin is easy either tho.

Cougar Bait · 07-28-12, 01:38 PM

Trinity what traps you on today?

Trident · 07-28-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

Another reason traps don't make sense is that books are far more concerned about "smart" (big) money. It doesn't make much sense to me to entice any more or any less than what they are comfortable with, which is what they always do. I agree they take risks and never have complete 50/50 action, but the imbalance that exists is referred to as a trap only by novices, in my opinion

We have a winner.

It's a oddsmakers job to set a line he think will generate equal action on both sides, while it doesn't always happen that's his job. Once a oddsmaker sets a so called "trap line" he becomes a gambler which is not his job.

If a book manager has a feeling on a game he might shade the line a ½ point or take a extra hit on a certain number, if he thinks he can set a trap and win over time he won't last long in the industry cause the sharps will eat him alive.

Cougar Bait · 07-28-12, 01:48 PM

If it's not an oddsmakers job to get equal action on both sides why set traps?

You look at a line like the Reds today

Big chalk hardly any movement and public all over it

If they are trying for equal action why not move the line?

Cougar Bait · 07-28-12, 01:51 PM

Are they trapping me into believing it's a trap?

Cause I am a step ahead of them I bet the trap anyway

MoneyLineDawg · 07-28-12, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Cougar Bait

Are they trapping me into believing it's a trap?

Cause I am a step ahead of them I bet the trap anyway

They know that you smell the reverse-trap so they are actually not trapping you.....or are they???

Brock Landers · 07-28-12, 02:03 PM

Doesn't fukking exist, been betting since 1995 and not once did I use the word "trap"

Trident · 07-28-12, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Cougar Bait

If they are trying for equal action why not move the line?

Who's to say they aren't getting equal action on both sides, if a book is getting equal action no reason what so ever to move a line. Public could be on Reds while sharps are on Rockies which would balance the action, just because everyone at SBR loves the Reds doesn't mean that the line has to move.

Cougar Bait · 07-28-12, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

Doesn't fukking exist, been betting since 1995 and not once did I use the word "trap"

Brock because you didn't use the word trap I believe that the trap game I bet today actually wasn't a trap but they decided to not move the line because all the BIG money was on the Rockies. I have it all figured out.