Jake Peavy is so overated.

Deuce · 10-17-08, 09:53 AM

JP is one of the top 10 tossers in the league pal. Get your head out of your ass.

Bluehorseshoe · 10-17-08, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

JP is one of the top 10 tossers in the league pal. Get your head out of your ass.

Stop thinking about my ass and realize his era at home is 1.78 while his road era is 4.28.

Do you think his playing in that park in SD has anything to do with his success??

daggerkobe · 10-17-08, 10:03 AM

Right you are. One of the most overrated ever. And he's a proven choker when it matters like that 1 game playoff in Denver.

He'll probably end up in LA..... which would suck.

Deuce · 10-17-08, 10:18 AM

He is on a terrible team.

gm2022 · 10-17-08, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

He is on a terrible team.

+1, give him a new team, hell even the Giants and he will be a winner next year!

Bluehorseshoe · 10-17-08, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

He is on a terrible team.

What does that have to do with his era?

fifawcs · 10-17-08, 11:29 AM

Peavy is good. Is he worth the money teams are gonna throw at him? I'm not sure. The problem is that it's hard to gauge how good he really is. All NL West teams are inferior to the rest of the league. I'm not sure that he would survive in the AL East since everyone is so much better.

daggerkobe · 10-17-08, 11:34 AM

He'll end up like Chan Ho Park if he leaves the pitcher friendly confines of Petco/Dodger Stadium to an AL launchpad.

Joe6Pack · 10-17-08, 11:34 AM

he is a GOOD pitcher on a bad team. He does this in one of the most pitcher friendly parks

bullring · 10-17-08, 11:58 AM

You make it sound like he is Josh Towers or something.

element1286 · 10-17-08, 12:11 PM

He would be fine anywhere he pitches.

Kingctb27 · 10-17-08, 01:09 PM

Idk, I'll take a 27 year old pitcher who just signed a 4 year 52 Million contract who has won a Cy Young...

You do realize that pitchers pitch differently depending on what park they are playing in, correct? If Peavy goes to a place like Philly for instance he wouldn't be pitching up in the zone to get all those fly balls, he would be pitching for the strikeout more.

He's a top ten pitcher no matter the park, and with a contract like that he is probably top 5 on value.

unde0087 · 10-17-08, 01:09 PM

If this guy goes to a team like the Yanks and actually gets some run support he won't lose to many games. If you are a pitcher on a team that is as sad as the Padres you have extra pressure on you because if you give up a 2 run homer and that is the only hit you give up all night, it is enough to beat the Padres most nights because they can't score runs, and then that is Peavy's fault, get real.

crisp · 10-17-08, 01:43 PM

peavy is very good. he has lost too many 1-0 games. not his fault the pads can't score.

fifawcs · 10-17-08, 01:59 PM

Peavy wouldn't be a good fit for the Yanks. He's not used to sellout crowds every night and tough AL opponents.

I.R.B · 10-17-08, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

What does that have to do with his era?

Bad D, No run support that equals up to long outings high pitch counts and more runs scored... SD is horribe Peavy will win 15+ on another team.

Bluehorseshoe · 10-17-08, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by I'm Rich Biatch

Bad D, No run support that equals up to long outings high pitch counts and more runs scored... SD is horribe Peavy will win 15+ on another team.

SD was 4th in the league in fielding percentage this year.

I'm not saying he's horrible, but to have that big of an era differential between home and away games says a ton. That has nothing to do with what team he's on.

ryanXL977 · 10-17-08, 02:17 PM

look at his home road splits
he is good but he is no better than shaun marcum or james shields

I.R.B · 10-17-08, 02:20 PM

I see where you're coming from, for my self it is also wierd to see his home and away ERA that far apart from each other.. I guess we can both agree that he sucked on the road this year...

ryanXL977 · 10-17-08, 02:22 PM

he is good, no doubt about it
but he isnt near the top pitchers in baseball, that park is huge. i dont count a single pitching stat that comes out of there

Bluehorseshoe · 10-17-08, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

he is good, no doubt about it
but he isnt near the top pitchers in baseball, that park is huge. i dont count a single pitching stat that comes out of there

Neither do I.

If you rank the home teams last year, SD was 8th in era.

That's for a team that won 63 games!!!!

Away...........they're 28th in all of baseball.

poetwarrior41 · 10-17-08, 03:52 PM

Dude your crazy! Peavy will dominate wherever he plays, he is a bulldog and a true #1. The only reason he is on the block, is because John Moore's is a cheap F'N bastard and a liar. They will love Peavy in the Bronx!

etothep · 10-17-08, 04:06 PM

Jake Peavy's home/away ERA split by year the past 5 seasons:

2008 - already given
2007 - 2.51 home/2.57 away
2006 - 3.75 home/4.57 away
2005 - 2.81 home/2.98 away
2004 - 2.22 home/2.33 away

I guess it depends on if you think he reached his peak last year (at age 26), or if his road era this season was like his '06 season, a bit of a fluke.

Tosser · 10-17-08, 04:21 PM

not nearly as overrated as Beckett, or Lester, ah phuck it the whole Red Sux pitching staff

ryanXL977 · 10-17-08, 04:23 PM

amen tosser

daggerkobe · 10-17-08, 04:37 PM

If the Dodgers trade for Peavy instead of signing CC or Santana, I'll be pissed.

poetwarrior41 · 10-17-08, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by etothep

Jake Peavy's home/away ERA split by year the past 5 seasons:

2008 - already given
2007 - 2.51 home/2.57 away
2006 - 3.75 home/4.57 away
2005 - 2.81 home/2.98 away
2004 - 2.22 home/2.33 away

I guess it depends on if you think he reached his peak last year (at age 26), or if his road era this season was like his '06 season, a bit of a fluke.

Nice job with the stats, i think that puts the Peavy cant win on the road theory to rest.

TPowell · 10-17-08, 05:23 PM

Hopefully the Braves will be able to make a blockbuster deal that gets Peavy and gets rid of Kelly Johnson in the process!!!

fifawcs · 10-17-08, 05:38 PM

I could see a team like the braves getting him. I coudl also see the Cardinals trading for him.

Kingctb27 · 10-17-08, 06:01 PM

Lol, look at his K/9 when comparing him to other pitchers ppl. I swear you people don't realize that pitchers pitch differently due to the ball park that they are in. Not being used to a road park really skews pitchers ERA. Hell, I bet most pitchers ERA is better at home than on the Road.

Case in point, Halladay's career home is 3.28 and road is 3.75.

Get with th picture. Guys like pitching better at home rather than on the road. This should be no surprise to you.

fifawcs · 10-17-08, 07:20 PM

Yeah, but the point is that there is a much larger differential with Peavy than other top pitchers.

ryanXL977 · 10-17-08, 07:28 PM

he is overrated, but he is still very good

Kingctb27 · 10-17-08, 10:20 PM

Guys, I am a fantasy baseball expert. Do not test my skillz in this game. When it comes to baseball player analysis I am second to none. My work is ruthless and does not yield to anyone. Get with the picture.

Kingctb27 · 10-17-08, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by fifawcs

Yeah, but the point is that there is a much larger differential with Peavy than other top pitchers.

But it's not that if he is over-rated or not when you look at his contract. He might not be as good as Johan or even someone like Lincecum, but you can count on him compared to someone like Meche who makes almost as much as him on a salary basis.