$1,000,000 One Drop WSOP Event June 30th 2012

Emily_Haines · 07-03-12, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Emily, I can't tell if you're being facetious or not. Do you really believe every poker hand is rigged? Live and on SBR?

100% positive this final table was rigged
no events ever end in such few hands and so many coolers

100% positive SBR poker rigged
i literally win 25-30% of all ins when i have minimum 75% equity every time

that's why i go to casino so often and keep close eye on the dealer to make sure i'm not getting fukked

Emily_Haines · 07-03-12, 10:01 PM

why is antonio crying when the outcome was predetermined?

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:02 PM

Emily ur pretty paranoid girl lol

ballahollic2 · 07-03-12, 10:09 PM

Did Antonio have 100% of himself or does anyone know the exact percentage that he had?

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:11 PM

I thought the turning point was definitely the hand where tricket had 89 and antonio hit the ak. I wulda loved to see a big river bet.

Nittany Lion · 07-03-12, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by ballahollic2

Did Antonio have 100% of himself or does anyone know the exact percentage that he had?

Yep, I'm curious about that as well. I don't think Antonio had enough money from previous wins to afford this buy-in all by himself.

Emily_Haines · 07-03-12, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by ballahollic2

Did Antonio have 100% of himself or does anyone know the exact percentage that he had?

No way he had 100% of himself

Would be surprised if it was more than 20%

lunchbawks · 07-03-12, 10:12 PM

ive had sick runs of cards like antonio, but man what a time to catch cards

its the way it goes haines

magician wins the biggest poker tournament ever...

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by ballahollic2

Did Antonio have 100% of himself or does anyone know the exact percentage that he had?

100% lock that he didnt have 100% of himself.

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:13 PM

Id say he had a third of himself at most.

Optional · 07-03-12, 10:14 PM

Poker sounds worse than the shell game.

lunchbawks · 07-03-12, 10:16 PM

did he use magic and slight of hand?

k13 · 07-03-12, 10:16 PM

Where's Phil Laak?

ttwarrior1 · 07-03-12, 10:17 PM

he never would of called that one all in with king ten unless he knew he was ahead.

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

he never would of called that one all in with king ten unless he knew he was ahead.

He had plenty of chips and einhorn was playin super loose 3 handed. He was calling any ace and any decent king and any pair

The Giant · 07-03-12, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by thetrinity

He had plenty of chips and einhorn was playin super loose 3 handed. He was calling any ace and any decent king and any pair

I was going to post the exact same thing, but then I realized it was TT, and came to the understanding that his tiny little brain couldn't process anything other than: "It's rigged! It's rigged!"

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:28 PM

Hellmuth made a good point in his post game rant. He said that he makes chips last and other guys either have a mountain of chips or r out in 2-3 hours. The internet generation definitely doesnt have a lot of patience, even the best players try to play for all their chips 2 often. He really had a cold deck today and an awful seat at the table with antonio and trickett behind him.

k13 · 07-03-12, 10:32 PM

Real winners in these things are casinos and government, everyone else is just chopping up each others money.

Emily_Haines · 07-03-12, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by thetrinity

Hellmuth made a good point in his post game rant. He said that he makes chips last and other guys either have a mountain of chips or r out in 2-3 hours. The internet generation definitely doesnt have a lot of patience, even the best players try to play for all their chips 2 often. He really had a cold deck today and an awful seat at the table with antonio and trickett behind him.

even being short most of day 2 and at final table he still had a nice pay day

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by k13

Real winners in these things are casinos and government, everyone else is just chopping up each others money.

These tournaments r basically for bragging rights. The money is made in the side games. Taxes out the ass on winnings.

Jimmy Proffett · 07-03-12, 10:44 PM

I would think the only poker pro in this tournament that wasn't pieced out in a bunch of places was Hellmuth. The rest probably had multiple backers. With the businessmen, I would think most had their own money in; maybe they went 50/50 with another equally ridiculously rich friend or partner that couldn't participate.

thetrinity · 07-03-12, 10:53 PM

I agree jimmy. The businessmen put up their own mil. The pros probably had minimal pieces of themselves at best. Hellmuth isnt really a degenerate. Hes a pro/businessman. Im surprised michael jordan didnt play this.

Optional · 07-03-12, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Jimmy Proffett

I would think the only poker pro in this tournament that wasn't pieced out in a bunch of places was Hellmuth.

Didn't everyone on the final table of his satellite have a piece of Helmuth?

CanuckG · 07-03-12, 11:44 PM

Hellmuth had 15% of himself Id assume same with Antonio. Rast had 2% of Antonio

UntilTheNDofTimE · 07-03-12, 11:57 PM

Cant assume any pro had more than 10-15% of themselves. The biggest winners have lifetime earnings of ~$10M~ that not accounting for buyins taxes or living expenses. One would have to have around a 100M BR to buy into this event comfortably. With 1st place being only 18-1 youd have a better ROI playing 65 $1500 events instead of this tournament.

lunchbawks · 07-04-12, 12:11 AM

Antonio just payed 10 mil in taxes...

Optional · 07-04-12, 12:14 AM

Do non-professionals have to pay tax on winnings too?

I would not think so for the Australian WSOP event.

CanuckG · 07-04-12, 12:18 AM

Supposedly, Antonio had 52% of himself and the cage keeps 30% for taxes. He pays his backers pre-tax winnings and then he has to wait to get the taxes back at the end of the year (receipt from backers) and its a write off for Antonio

UntilTheNDofTimE · 07-04-12, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Do non-professionals have to pay tax on winnings too?

I would not think so for the Australian WSOP event.

Of course this is america.

CanuckG · 07-04-12, 12:21 AM

Don't really know much about the tax situation to be honest..

UntilTheNDofTimE · 07-04-12, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Don't really know much about the tax situation to be honest..

All us citizens are subject to normal taxation on all winnings as if it were earned income.

Optional · 07-04-12, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE

All us citizens are subject to normal taxation on all winnings as if it were earned income.

Does the govt take it's chunk immediately on stuff like this? Or does it just have to be accounted for at the end of the financial year? Once you have hold of 18 million there should be a fair bit that can be done to minimize the tax.

hels · 07-04-12, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE

All us citizens are subject to normal taxation on all winnings as if it were earned income.

That's why Canada is a great place for pro gamblers. You don't pay tax on any lottery/casino/gambling etc.

UntilTheNDofTimE · 07-04-12, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Does the govt take it's chunk immediately on stuff like this? Or does it just have to be accounted for at the end of the financial year? Once you have hold of 18 million there should be a fair bit that can be done to minimize the tax.

They withold a certain %( usually 18-28%). The irs also receives a record of it.

alling · 07-04-12, 08:25 AM

Yea look below, they even rig hands in small stakes:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/poker/1792184-after-one-month-playing-finally-just-happened.html