Obama's White Support Is Too Low to Win

[Shaudius]

Yeah, it's crazy. Liberals tend to not really understand how the economy works ("Rich people are just too greedy"), so they focus entirely on issues that are easy for them to defend, such as gay marriage. With the economy as bad as it is, its amazing that the candidates' stances on gay people and weed are going to end up being central factors in the next election. Presidential elections are now just some kind of American Idol contest where voters make their choices based on image and personality with no regard to policy.

If that was the case why would the bulk of Republican support be with those who view themselves as religious, while those who view themselves as non-religious are far more likely to be Democrats. If this was just an economic consideration this would not be the case.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Shaudius,

I doubt he's a Christian. Attending Reverend Wright's sermons would seem like something a black panther would do, not a Christian.

[ChalkyDog]

I'd prefer he not be christian. Being black or a woman is nice an all, but something that would be really something is to have a non-religious man win that type of seat.

[Sam Odom]

White Males will NEVER be seen/recognized as a minority in the USA...

[Shaudius]

Shaudius,

I doubt he's a Christian. Attending Reverend Wright's sermons would seem like something a black panther would do, not a Christian.

So in your opinion Revered Wright isn't a Christian preacher? Is the United Church of Christ not a Christian denomination? How about Jerry Falwell? Is he a Christian?

So in your opinion, which seems to be expressed by large group of people, Obama is just flat out lying about being a Christian. So you'd be a perfect person to ask about my point, if you can't even believe him when he says what religion he identifies as, why would you believe him about anything ever?

[DwightShrute]

Shaudius,

I doubt he's a Christian. Attending Reverend Wright's sermons would seem like something a black panther would do, not a Christian.

he probably is a Christian. Well he says he is so why should we question what he says? He also said that he would reduce the deficit by half, Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009, I’ll get rid of earmarks, he would have the most transparent administration in History, Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical, No more wiretapping of citizens, I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage, No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus, Recovery Act will save or create jobs, Health Care deals will be covered on C-span, he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas, We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care, The Health Care Package will pay for itself, ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax.

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[PAULYPOKER]

So in your opinion Revered Wright isn't a Christian preacher? Is the United Church of Christ not a Christian denomination? How about Jerry Falwell? Is he a Christian?

So in your opinion, which seems to be expressed by large group of people, Obama is just flat out lying about being a Christian. So you'd be a perfect person to ask about my point, if you can't even believe him when he says what religion he identifies as, why would you believe him about anything ever?

Most politicians lie about religion,religion is one of their strongest tricks in the book to draw votes...........

Do you actually believe they are going to tell the truth of what or who they really worship?

[MC PICKS]

Christians dont change their names from barry sotoro to barack hussein obama. Anybody who believes obama is not a muslim is a fool.

[Mr KLC]

[Chimneyfish]

If that was the case why would the bulk of Republican support be with those who view themselves as religious, while those who view themselves as non-religious are far more likely to be Democrats. If this was just an economic consideration this would not be the case.

I think that just proves that what I said is true, and it's true on both sides of the aisle. Bush and Obama were cardboard cutout candidates who represented images and personalities instead of actual policies. Liberals insist on making the next election all about cultural issues because it's easier for them to explain why gays should be allowed to get married than it is for them to justify the idea that we need more stimulus spending.

I'm not religious and I don't care about things like abortions or drugs, but I'd still support a Republican over a Democrat since federal debt and inflation affect me much more than gay marriage. My problem is that a lot of people on the left look at everything as "the cool party vs. the religious party" and end it at that. They assume that anybody who votes for a Republican is only doing so due to their religious beliefs, and that once they disprove the basis for cultural conservatism then they've negated the entire Republican platform. Proving that Romney is wrong about his social positions isn't the same as proving that he is wrong about his economic positions- which I think should be the much more important consideration in the next election.

[agharah1]

White Males will NEVER be seen/recognized as a minority in the USA...

Totally ridiculous. It is *BECAUSE* they are a minority that they are villianized. The key is that they are a *POWERFUL* minority. They don't call 'em the 1% because they're a dime a dozen.

Demographics, the recession, the third world catching up to the west economically, and the average American's total ignorance of the third world catching up to the west economically are driving some serious cultural nationalism in this country. Americans equate adherence to their culture with success and the right way to live. Listen to what that Schrutebag said: he thinks Obama's a failure because he doesn't govern the white people way. Living the white people way works for him (or at least he thinks it does), and he's good at it (or at least he thinks he is), so it should be the standard imposed on everybody else.

Economically, it doesn't really matter who wins because the economy can and will fix itself. Its only a question of who is going to decide how we print and deficit spend our way back into growth and whose going to get their hands on all that government money. If you're rich right now, Romney's going to give you the money to spend. If you're not rich right now, Obama is going to give you the money to spend. That's what the 2012 election is all about: who will be the next bailout recipient.

[doylfish]

Which is the number 1 reason the state should pay for birth control.

yeah well paying for it is fine and all, but how about getting that 'population' of people to take it? good luck. they're procreating so they can get more $$ from the government, fat chance they take birth control to stop it

[Sam Odom]

"Totally ridiculous"

OK , why aren't men in general a minority (strictest sense) today ? More Women in USA than men

[Shaudius]

Christians dont change their names from barry sotoro to barack hussein obama. Anybody who believes obama is not a muslim is a fool.

Soetoro is the name of his step-father. Why would someone at birth be named after their step father who his mother didn't meet til years later at birth. His birth father is named Barack Obama, Sr.

[ChalkyDog]

Soetoro is the name of his step-father. Why would someone at birth be named after their step father who his mother didn't meet til years later at birth. His birth father is named Barack Obama, Sr.

Birthers have amazing foresight.

[MC PICKS]

yeah well paying for it is fine and all, but how about getting that 'population' of people to take it? good luck. they're procreating so they can get more $$ from the government, fat chance they take birth control to stop it

Exactly, thats why its just another example of government waste, these animals will get it for free and still not use it.

[MC PICKS]

Soetoro is the name of his step-father. Why would someone at birth be named after their step father who his mother didn't meet til years later at birth. His birth father is named Barack Obama, Sr.

Nice attempt at spin as usual. The point is no christian has a middle name of "hussein", explain that one genius. While your at it, explain how it was published in harvard law review that he was the 1st kenyan born president of it.

[MC PICKS]

Birthers have amazing foresight.

He still hasnt produced anything but a photo shopped birth certificate, eric bolling had an expert come in and break it down on his show follow the money.

[Sam Odom]

I'm 99% sure Barry was born in Hi. - I'm 70% sure Barry as an adult claimed to have been born in Kenya

[Shaudius]

I think that just proves that what I said is true, and it's true on both sides of the aisle. Bush and Obama were cardboard cutout candidates who represented images and personalities instead of actual policies. Liberals insist on making the next election all about cultural issues because it's easier for them to explain why gays should be allowed to get married than it is for them to justify the idea that we need more stimulus spending.

I could just as easily say the reverse, cultural issues are the way in which the Republican party convinced the religious to vote against their economic interests.

I'm not religious and I don't care about things like abortions or drugs, but I'd still support a Republican over a Democrat since federal debt and inflation affect me much more than gay marriage.

Its just funny because you think that the Republican party actually really ever cared about federal debt and inflation. Its as if you didn't live through 8 years of the Bush administration and deficit spending up the wazoo. Its as if you have taken it on faith that the Republicans now care about those things that they didn't care about when Reagan was in power, and that they didn't care about during either Bush administration. I mean I honestly think you should read the Ryan budget plan, that doesn't propose to cut the deficit by spending cuts, but instead proports to solve the deficit problem through increased growth through lower taxes. Why would anyone in their right mind put forth a plan that relies on something that may or may not happen at the level they need it to(growth from tax cuts) and not touch what will surely cut deficits, actual spending cuts.

My problem is that a lot of people on the left look at everything as "the cool party vs. the religious party" and end it at that. They assume that anybody who votes for a Republican is only doing so due to their religious beliefs, and that once they disprove the basis for cultural conservatism then they've negated the entire Republican platform. Proving that Romney is wrong about his social positions isn't the same as proving that he is wrong about his economic positions- which I think should be the much more important consideration in the next election.

I'm just going with statistics. Those who support the Republican party are more likely to be religious. Those who support the Democrats are more likely to be non-religious. Tell me which group you think is more likely to support something on faith alone, and which group is more likely to support ideas that have basis in evidence.

I don't really support Obama that much, but what I do not support is the idea that the Republican party's ideas are what is going to bring back economic prosperity. Its ludicrousness to think so when looking at their plans.

[ChalkyDog]

He still hasnt produced anything but a photo shopped birth certificate, eric bolling had an expert come in and break it down on his show follow the money.

I am pretty sure Rush could have personally watched Obama being born, in the middle of Kansas, on an Army base, while the song America The Beautiful was playing in the background - and he'd still say he was a Kenyan born muslim for ratings.

Tell you what, pal. You show me Palins college transcripts, and I will personally show you Obamas birth certificate.

[Shaudius]

Nice attempt at spin as usual. The point is no christian has a middle name of "hussein", explain that one genius. While your at it, explain how it was published in harvard law review that he was the 1st kenyan born president of it.

Barack Obama's father was raised a Muslim and became an Atheist, his mother was raised in a non-religious household by Christian parents. The explanation about why a Christian has a middle name of Hussein is that HE BECAME A PRACTICING CHRISTIAN LATER IN LIFE.

[MC PICKS]

I am pretty sure Rush could have personally watched Obama being born, in the middle of Kansas, on an Army base, while the song America The Beautiful was playing in the background - and he'd still say he was a Kenyan born muslim for ratings.

Tell you what, pal. You show me Palins college transcripts, and I will personally show you Obamas birth certificate.

I never said palin wasnt a dumbfukk, i wouldnt trust her to give me change at a drivethru. Deflection at its finest.

[no gnu taxes]

Obama was born in "Huwaii."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL6hZRYZ6wU

[MC PICKS]

Barack Obama's father was raised a Muslim and became an Atheist, his mother was raised in a non-religious household by Christian parents. The explanation about why a Christian has a middle name of Hussein is that HE BECAME A PRACTICING CHRISTIAN LATER IN LIFE.

His father was a muslim, he has a muslim name, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

[ChalkyDog]

Here is a salient point. What non-knuckle dragging buffoon cares if the President is muslim?

The Republicans are sending out a candidate who wears magic underwear, and believes the garden of eden is in Jackson county, Missouri.

So fukkin' what?

[ChalkyDog]

I never said palin wasnt a dumbfukk, i wouldnt trust her to give me change at a drivethru. Deflection at its finest.

No, I am sorry - you are absolutely right.

Obama is clearly pulling that middle-eastern prince scam. So easy. Here is a detailed walk-through of this awesome plan.

"You want to destroy America from the inside but you can't because you're a foreigner. So first, you gotta find yourself a good ol' American to reproduce for you. Then, you have that child on foreign soil, while simultaneously placing the birth announcement of that child in one of our "fringe" state's local newspapers, your Hawaiis, your Alaskas, your Pennsylvanias. And then, hold on, you wait. Until this baby is a middle-aged man. Now the trap is set. You just sit back and let that child go out and win the election for President of the United States. Now here's where the scam gets tricky; they can't just win the popular vote. He or she must have a strategy to win the electoral vote; that's what trips up most drifters. But, if you pull it off, you and your puppet child can sit back and destroy the fabric of the country you both hate so much. It's almost too easy." - John Stewart

[Sam Odom]

barry sotoro practiced Islam , OK , so what ?

but why not own up to it...

[no gnu taxes]

The explanation about why a Christian has a middle name of Hussein is that HE BECAME A PRACTICING CHRISTIAN LATER IN LIFE.

The only thing Hussein has been observed practicing on Sundays is a bad game of golf.

[ChalkyDog]

barry sotoro practiced Islam , OK , so what ?

but why not own up to it...

Because the voting public of this nation is dumb as shit.

I pretend that I have never smoked pot to get a job. I love herb.

Heres the real trick, Obama is probably not a religious man. Maybe he practiced being a muslim at some point, and now he has a family and a life in politics and has become "christian".

These are politicians. Saying your a christian isn't exactly the biggest lie they tell on an hourly basis.

[King Mayan]

barry sotoro practiced Islam , OK , so what ?

but why not own up to it...

[Shaudius]

His father was a muslim, he has a muslim name, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Yes because religion is an immutable characteristic. No one in the history of the world has ever changed religions and no one in the history of the world has ever practiced the religion of one of the parents instead of the religion of their other parents.

[MC PICKS]

Here is a salient point. What non-knuckle dragging buffoon cares if the President is muslim?

The Republicans are sending out a candidate who wears magic underwear, and believes the garden of eden is in Jackson county, Missouri.

So fukkin' what?

But he WAS born in amercia so he qualifies.

[Sam Odom]

Maybe he practiced being a muslim at some point...

No maybes to it... but he was a child

[PAULYPOKER]

Ask yourselves this, WTF does it matter........

Sad.............