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  • Nicky Santoro
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #1
    These betting spreadsheets should be removed...
    What a complete waste of time.. who is the genius behind this idea? I see records of 8-7 or 53%, and 7-10, or 41%.. this means squat..

    I see guys losing games on big favs and it goes down as 1 loss.. then their record states they are at 55%, meanwhile, they are down big money because almost all their bets are favs. but all we see is 55% and people assume he's doing good..

    Then we have guys who bet tons of dogs and are at 44% and posters think they are doing bad, but in reality, they are up big.

    These spreadsheets should go by units up or down.. it's all that matters in this business. the rest mean nothing.. you can hit 60% in this business and be broke if you bet favs all the time. and you can hit 42% consistently and be a millionaire from gambling.

    9-7 at 56% means squat.. if he laid -180 on avg, he'd be down big, but all we see is 9-7 and 56%.


    Change the software and lets see units up or down. that's all that counts.. If you dont believe me that this is useless, i will bet anyone that i will hit 70% if i do this.. anyone can.
  • InTheHole
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-28-08
    • 15243

    #2
    Look at the profit loss Sick Gambler.
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    • SlickFazzer
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-22-08
      • 20209

      #3
      units is the only measure. % is a big waste.
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      • betplom
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-20-06
        • 13444

        #4
        Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
        If you dont believe me that this is useless, i will bet anyone that i will hit 70% if i do this.. anyone can.
        Will you do it by betting on the Habs exclusively?

        Even though you warned everyone NOT to listen to guys that pick their hometown or favourite team?

        Sick Gambler Are Habs Good On the Road?

        word of caution for people that follow posters picks
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        • RogueJuror
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-08-08
          • 10010

          #5
          Novelty item at this point, bad software.

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          • pat venditto
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-07-07
            • 14347

            #6
            currently up little more than 2 units hitting 52% on SS.
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            • pat venditto
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-07-07
              • 14347

              #7
              +100 or better odds plays only.
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              • I.R.B
                SBR MVP
                • 08-12-08
                • 3209

                #8
                Thats the bettors bad not the sheet... dont look for % look for +Units.

                Also this idiots laying -180 is just horrible they should learn quick before they run them selfs broke.
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                • I.R.B
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-12-08
                  • 3209

                  #9
                  I think anybet over -150 is a no go no matter what..
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                  • I.R.B
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-12-08
                    • 3209

                    #10
                    And even -150 is way to much to give.
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                    • supershark
                      Restricted User
                      • 03-11-08
                      • 231

                      #11
                      I find it to bothersome to have to grade your own picks. I was keeping track of my picks with youcapper.com but one weekend their software malfunctioned and I could not enter my picks so I got bored.
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                      • VegasDave
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-03-07
                        • 8056

                        #12
                        % is relevant when dealing with -110 wagers.
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                        • pat venditto
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-07-07
                          • 14347

                          #13
                          people who bet -110 on spreads need to use matchbook. jesus -110 is a thing of the past people
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                          • VegasDave
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-03-07
                            • 8056

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pat venditto
                            people who bet -110 on spreads need to use matchbook. jesus -110 is a thing of the past people
                            Fvck you are like a hawk.

                            I just mean -105, -110, whatever. Bets that are = on both sides. 55% is not good with -300 faves, it is good with -105 sides
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                            • Nicky Santoro
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-08-08
                              • 16103

                              #15
                              Originally posted by supershark
                              I find it to bothersome to have to grade your own picks. I was keeping track of my picks with youcapper.com but one weekend their software malfunctioned and I could not enter my picks so I got bored.
                              wow, i had no idea you had to grade your own picks.. wow.. no wonder jjgold has his montreal canadiens victory as a loss.. he graded it a loss.. i thought the computer fukked up, but it was JJ..

                              so anyone can just cheat and try to pull a fast one. i am sure some have tried and i am sure some might have even gotten away with it.
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                              • pat venditto
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-07-07
                                • 14347

                                #16
                                nicky what was the name of that tranny who's ass was shown on youtube by you pal?
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                                • SBR Lou
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-02-07
                                  • 37863

                                  #17
                                  Units are not always great to measure on as a rule either, it's all about following cappers you like or respect, or getting to know someone from their plays. Obviously, if you see someone who gets down 10 units, then makes a succession of 30 unit plays, you can weigh that differently than a guy flat-betting, or betting 1-5 units per game regardless of cold/hotstreaks.
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                                  • Tsoprano
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 04-14-08
                                    • 26374

                                    #18
                                    I use the same standard "to win $100" amount on all games, to focus on my percentage, while most of the plays are $500 to $1500.
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                                    • tacomax
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 9619

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by I'm Rich Biatch
                                      And even -150 is way to much to give.
                                      If I offered you the Titans -1 -160 against the Chiefs this Sunday, would you refuse the bet?
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                                      • Masu485
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-14-08
                                        • 7700

                                        #20
                                        you can easily see how much money they have won or lost by clicking on their spreadsheet on their profile page... i do it all the time, never even pay attention to the win%, just the total profit.
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                                        • pat venditto
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-07-07
                                          • 14347

                                          #21
                                          total profit is irrelevant if people change bet sizes. If you want to see how good someone is, track them risking 1 unit per play every play.
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                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-12-07
                                            • 12144

                                            #22
                                            That is not accurate. See Kelly Criterion.
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                                            • pat venditto
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-07-07
                                              • 14347

                                              #23
                                              Kelly criterion is a bunch of bullshit.
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                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-12-07
                                                • 12144

                                                #24
                                                Uh huh. And you've come to that conclusion by what means exactly?
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                                                • treece
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-28-07
                                                  • 6298

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pat venditto
                                                  nicky what was the name of that tranny who's ass was shown on youtube by you pal?
                                                  I'm guessing that video is gone. Too bad I missed it.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Thanks Nicky

                                                    I thought they lost, I changed it

                                                    Profit loss is the thing I look at as long as bets are realistic in people's sheets

                                                    It is better than guys just giving picks with no records. I pay no attention anymore to anyone that does not post accurate records.
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                                                    • Richkas
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-03-08
                                                      • 19396

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by tacomax
                                                      If I offered you the Titans -1 -160 against the Chiefs this Sunday, would you refuse the bet?
                                                      Some of these idiots would.
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                                                      • I.R.B
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-12-08
                                                        • 3209

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tacomax
                                                        If I offered you the Titans -1 -160 against the Chiefs this Sunday, would you refuse the bet?
                                                        I would run you broke if thats the case.

                                                        Also i never siad i would'nt bet over -150, im just saying thats a tuff # to push you're money on... Ive bet -200's in Baseball and won more then i lost... what im trying to say is you should not give up so much juice on a play. cause in the long run you will get burnt.
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                                                        • I.R.B
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-12-08
                                                          • 3209

                                                          #29
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                                                          • TodaysAction
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-01-08
                                                            • 12762

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
                                                            What a complete waste of time.. who is the genius behind this idea? I see records of 8-7 or 53%, and 7-10, or 41%.. this means squat..

                                                            I see guys losing games on big favs and it goes down as 1 loss.. then their record states they are at 55%, meanwhile, they are down big money because almost all their bets are favs. but all we see is 55% and people assume he's doing good..

                                                            Then we have guys who bet tons of dogs and are at 44% and posters think they are doing bad, but in reality, they are up big.

                                                            These spreadsheets should go by units up or down.. it's all that matters in this business. the rest mean nothing.. you can hit 60% in this business and be broke if you bet favs all the time. and you can hit 42% consistently and be a millionaire from gambling.

                                                            9-7 at 56% means squat.. if he laid -180 on avg, he'd be down big, but all we see is 9-7 and 56%.


                                                            Change the software and lets see units up or down. that's all that counts.. If you dont believe me that this is useless, i will bet anyone that i will hit 70% if i do this.. anyone can.
                                                            Couple of points. One, to me the only thing that matters is, is the person up (black) or down (down). Winning percentage is useless. Two, 70%, sure you can, that's what many have stated yet failed. Post `em on the sheet and if/when you obtain 70% for over 200 wagers, contact me.
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                                                            • Ganchrow
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-28-05
                                                              • 5011

                                                              #31
                                                              I posted a few months back on a better way to measure handicapper success than looking only at win percentage and/or units up/down.
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                                                              • fiveteamer
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-08
                                                                • 10805

                                                                #32
                                                                THIS FIGURE:

                                                                Win Percent: 35.00% | Net: $2,055.82

                                                                should be somehow added when guys post sheets.

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                                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                                  • 16103

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TodaysAction
                                                                  Couple of points. One, to me the only thing that matters is, is the person up (black) or down (down). Winning percentage is useless. Two, 70%, sure you can, that's what many have stated yet failed. Post `em on the sheet and if/when you obtain 70% for over 200 wagers, contact me.
                                                                  I'll make it even better for you.. if i can bet anything i want, not only will i hit 70%, but i will hit 75%.. how's that? And i'll probably end up over 80%..

                                                                  I'll just show you all how silly this is to keep stats of winning %.. It means squat. I can go 12-3 or 80%, and people will say, wow, nicky is sharp, he's 80%.. meanwhile, i'd be down real money..
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                                                                  • pico
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 04-05-07
                                                                    • 27321

                                                                    #34
                                                                    why are you so nosy? i use my spreadsheet for my own book keeping. what you really want to say is the mods should take away spreadsheet previledge from those immature kids who love to post their spreadsheet success rate.
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                                                                    • Shark79
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-19-07
                                                                      • 11211

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by I'm Rich Biatch
                                                                      I think anybet over -150 is a no go no matter what..
                                                                      I would say any bet over -130 is a no go.
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