Moving to Canada *Questions regaurding betting legally sports and poker/ and other?'s

[billysink]

Why hasn't the Canadian government pressured the financial institutions to stop processing online payments to online casinos? It would increase their revenue. The Windsor casinos would be happy.

A more likely scenario is that in five or ten yrs online books will be setting up shop in Canada, and the government will be getting revenue that way. Think Kanawakee Reserve.

Candian government does not own the Windsor or any other casino. They are owned by the OLG and operated by an American firm. Caesar's in the case of Windsor.

I expect you will see something regulatory for all online play in the next year and a half to two years.

There are several online books already tied to native status reserves. They are garbage and not funded to take on the risk of a legitimate online book. Little more than penny ante or scam operations. The Canadian government will not fund anything they cannot regulate.

[BeerDog99]

Ya to get regular work, you need a SIN/work permit.

What is your business/background? What type of work are you looking for? I work in the IT industry so I could try and help get a legit IT job.

Cheers.

[jerry]

Candian government does not own the Windsor or any other casino. They are owned by the OLG and operated by an American firm. Caesar's in the case of Windsor.

I expect you will see something regulatory for all online play in the next year and a half to two years.

There are several online books already tied to native status reserves. They are garbage and not funded to take on the risk of a legitimate online book. Little more than penny ante or scam operations. The Canadian government will not fund anything they cannot regulate.

The Canadian government collects tax revenue from the casinos located across the country. If online books are ever allowed to operate in Canada, they will collect tax revenue from them too, regardless of who owns them.

The political will needs to exist before the government exerts pressure on financial institutions to stop online payments. Windsor casinos don't have the political clout in Canada that Vegas casinos do in the US.

[JC2008]

I'm not convinced we're going to have single-game wagering yet... At least not outside of the casinos. Sports Select is a fuckin' goldmine since you have to make three-team parlays or two-team pointspreads.

[billysink]

No the single game wagering will not be available outside of casino or other gaming sites.

[alling]

makes zero sense when you can move to nevada and have zero concerns regarding payment.

[biggie12]

What part of toronto is your girl's condo @?, what kind of work are you looking for?

edit: oh and for the license as long as you have the US one u can excahnge it here, you just need to take a vision and written test. No road test needed unless they switched the rules over the last 5 years.

[baskets]

lol at that fukk frizzel

what a hater who eats cawk

[boeing power]

makes zero sense when you can move to nevada and have zero concerns regarding payment.

His girl lives in Toronto , that should make at least 5% sense.

[jjgold]

Aussie, UK to best places to live as far as gambling onshore, local and offshore meaning CR

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[billysink]

The Canadian government collects tax revenue from the casinos located across the country. If online books are ever allowed to operate in Canada, they will collect tax revenue from them too, regardless of who owns them.

The political will needs to exist before the government exerts pressure on financial institutions to stop online payments. Windsor casinos don't have the political clout in Canada that Vegas casinos do in the US.

The Canadian government does not and will not collect any revenue directly from casino play. The provincial gaming entities collect and disburse all gaming revenues within each respective province. There is plenty of political will to maximize on the new gaming initiatives. That will include elimination of any outside entity to which they are losing revenue.

[GamblerSpirit]

Best of luck stashman!

[billysink]

Do you think the canadian government can stop you from using sportbooks anywhere in the world??? Well they can't. They haven't done so yet because they can't, and they wont be able to do it in the future. Canada has no all mighty DOJ.

The Canadian government will put a stop to it quite easily when the time comes. They will simply halt the money flow.

[1Vice George]

BETus has a sales dept in Montreal I think.

anyone have any experience with finding work in canada when u are on visitor **** only and dont have a work permit yet?

any ideas besides cutting frizzelli's grass (one grass a week wont help me LOL )

-stash

[jerry]

Billysink,
online casinos are taking money away from brick and mortar casinos. Why hasn't the federal gov. pressured the financial institutions to stop online casino transactions?

[sickler]

The Canadian government does not and will not collect any revenue directly from casino play. The provincial gaming entities collect and disburse all gaming revenues within each respective province. There is plenty of political will to maximize on the new gaming initiatives. That will include elimination of any outside entity to which they are losing revenue.

This is right. The feds don`t get a cut of it. OLG is raking in billions every year, profits stay within Ontario.

Feds do get income tax from all the jobs created so they don`t have much to complain about eh....

[dj_destroyer]

There's so much hogwash in this thread, it's crazy. None of you have a clue.

[secretstash]

Ya to get regular work, you need a SIN/work permit.

What is your business/background? What type of work are you looking for? I work in the IT industry so I could try and help get a legit IT job.

Cheers.

What part of toronto is your girl's condo @?, what kind of work are you looking for?

edit: oh and for the license as long as you have the US one u can excahnge it here, you just need to take a vision and written test. No road test needed unless they switched the rules over the last 5 years.

thx for the input on license.. makes sense and sounds good

I have a degree in Organizational Management and Business. I will not have a work permit until a company chooses to hire me then I can apply for one based on that company requesting me to come there for work. Other than that I am entering Canada on a visitor **** only for now to live with my girlfriend in Toronto.

any information or ideas you have is helpful.

lol at that fukk frizzel

what a hater who eats cawk

His girl lives in Toronto , that should make at least 5% sense.

Best of luck stashman!

BETus has a sales dept in Montreal I think.

wish other books were there...but i wouldnt wanna work for a stiff book. seriously im not that kinda guy.. prolly why u left there to get into a more legit one.

thx though.

-stash

[Counterfeit Cash]

There's so much hogwash in this thread, it's crazy. None of you have a clue.

Stop spewing bullshit & enlighten us then.

[dj_destroyer]

Well based on my brief talks with Anthony Melman (who sits on the board for the OLG), they are planning to follow the model of Willhill, Bet365 and the other legal books in Europe. They will offer competitive lines and markets and simply compete with the offshores. The OLG will also likely try to add casino and poker as well. The lotteries, scratch cards and other products will remain the same but be moved online in addition to remaining in B&M stores.

In my understanding, they know this will produce less money overall at first (allowing single game wagering instead of parlays only and going from .30 cent lines down to .10) but they also know this will attract more customers overall. Many people who want to play offshore but don't trust it or can't fund the book for whatever reason will now be able to play with a legitimate book. They will also accept international customers (though not from the US) which could add an influx of money never before thought possible.

As for regulating flows to offshore books, Canada is not going to do it. Anyone who thinks that is downright stupid. Canada never has and never will police the internet for three reasons:

1. We don't have enough money, nor is it in the best interest of the people because Canadians just don't care.
2. You can never police the whole internet, it's simply too daunting of a task.
3. The Americans do it so we don't have to (not that we even want to).

If you think the government will put restrictions on banks, again, you are being stupid. Even if they did, they can never stop us from sending funds to transactors like P@yPa|, Moneyb00kers, W3st3rn Un|on, N3tt3ller, etc.

[gangeriver]

I moved to Canada 3 months ago. Ok I can use the books but just curious how can I buy prepaid card?
Pa ys afe or u k a s h....
by the way statsh, don't come to Alberta. These people eat "Alberta beef"
And it is really so disgusting.7 months winter, I will come back to my home country couple years later.. if you want, attend a certificate orshort program in a college and looking a job...

...go to Ontario...but don't forget best place is always your home country

[Al Masters]

And even more of a reach, you think that RBC, BMO, TD et al are going to process your transfers??

C'mon Sprayer, you know the Canadian government better than that I hope.

I use my TD and BMO bank card ALL THE TIME to trasfer funds to HPI...which is Horse Player Interactive an online horse gambling site ran through Woodbine race track,never ever did i have any sort of problem.

Some players here know that i made a bit of a score on the Kentucky Derby,i got a check from HPI placed it in my BMO account without a problem.


I have gotten numerous payouts over the years from the Greek and Pinnacle,payments always ended up in one of those two accounts,never did anyone from my banks say anything to me about the money.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that the TD or BMO do not allow these types of transactions, but my experience with them to send and cash funds has always gone down pain free.

[Legions36]

God i love SBR u guys r the sh-it.

[sickler]

Well based on my brief talks with Anthony Melman (who sits on the board for the OLG), they are planning to follow the model of Willhill, Bet365 and the other legal books in Europe. They will offer competitive lines and markets and simply compete with the offshores. The OLG will also likely try to add casino and poker as well. The lotteries, scratch cards and other products will remain the same but be moved online in addition to remaining in B&M stores.

In my understanding, they know this will produce less money overall at first (allowing single game wagering instead of parlays only and going from .30 cent lines down to .10) but they also know this will attract more customers overall. Many people who want to play offshore but don't trust it or can't fund the book for whatever reason will now be able to play with a legitimate book. They will also accept international customers (though not from the US) which could add an influx of money never before thought possible.

As for regulating flows to offshore books, Canada is not going to do it. Anyone who thinks that is downright stupid. Canada never has and never will police the internet for three reasons:

1. We don't have enough money, nor is it in the best interest of the people because Canadians just don't care.
2. You can never police the whole internet, it's simply too daunting of a task.
3. The Americans do it so we don't have to (not that we even want to).

If you think the government will put restrictions on banks, again, you are being stupid. Even if they did, they can never stop us from sending funds to transactors like P@yPa|, Moneyb00kers, W3st3rn Un|on, N3tt3ller, etc.

I don`t know where you see 30 cent lines but I guarantee there will NEVER be 10 cent lines offered by the OLG or other provincial governments on single game wagers. You will be lucky to get 30. They are greedy and there are a lot of operational expenses. They won`t try to compete with Pinny. They will give shitty lines and make it very convenient for bettors. The advertising campaign will be huge and the feds will clamp down on financial institutions doing business with the competition.

I just looked at what the OLG is offering tonight on proline. Kings vs Yotes, OT included.

Kings are 1.6 (-167)
Coyotes are 1.9 (-111)

That`s a 56 cent line for something that has to be thrown into a parlay! You`re living in a dream world if you think OLG will deal dime lines on single game wagers. Dream on, buddy.

(I did the decimal to American conversions by hand, someone can correct me if I`m off)

[betplom]

I use my TD and BMO bank card ALL THE TIME to trasfer funds to HPI...which is Horse Player Interactive an online horse gambling site ran through Woodbine race track,never ever did i have any sort of problem.

Some players here know that i made a bit of a score on the Kentucky Derby,i got a check from HPI placed it in my BMO account without a problem.


I have gotten numerous payouts over the years from the Greek and Pinnacle,payments always ended up in one of those two accounts,never did anyone from my banks say anything to me about the money.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that the TD or BMO do not allow these types of transactions, but my experience with them to send and cash funds has always gone down pain free.

Mr Masters why did you need a cheque from HPI? Did you know they can e-transfer the funds directly into any Canadian bank account? Up to $10k per day. A withdrawal to your bank account from your HPI account takes 1 business day and the funds are clear.

When you login to your HPI account go to HPI fund and checkout the withdrawal section.

[Optional]

Wouldn't new laws need to be made to make it illegal to bet offshore before any money transfers could be stopped? Damn complicated laws that are near impossible to enforce (as the US shows).

I don't see the Australian, New Zealand or UK governments trying to act overly protectionist in the way some of you imagine Canada will.

[BeerDog99]

And just to add to this, I have also used the echecks in my bank account to/from Pokerstars.

Also I have received paper checks from DSI (horrible pain in the butt) and Bodog (slow but painless).

There should be no problem with funding or cashing out online in Canada.

[sickler]

Wouldn't new laws need to be made to make it illegal to bet offshore before any money transfers could be stopped? Damn complicated laws that are near impossible to enforce (as the US shows).

I don't see the Australian, New Zealand or UK governments trying to act overly protectionist in the way some of you imagine Canada will.

Yeah there would have to be new laws. Near impossible to enforce but it would discourage many from sending large amounts of money offshore. Not everyone wants to be a lawbreaker or risk having funds seized. Maybe Canada won`t bother with enforcement and will allow those gambling offshore to continue doing so, relying on the safety and security of government gaming to win people over and attract new gamblers. One thing people won`t have to worry about is being paid. You win, you collect. And it will be marketed to the hilt. It will be on the mind of every Canadian with a gambling itch.

[vaas187]

same. i just got 9,500 transferred no problem. dumb.

[billysink]

Well based on my brief talks with Anthony Melman (who sits on the board for the OLG), they are planning to follow the model of Willhill, Bet365 and the other legal books in Europe. They will offer competitive lines and markets and simply compete with the offshores. The OLG will also likely try to add casino and poker as well. The lotteries, scratch cards and other products will remain the same but be moved online in addition to remaining in B&M stores.

In my understanding, they know this will produce less money overall at first (allowing single game wagering instead of parlays only and going from .30 cent lines down to .10) but they also know this will attract more customers overall. Many people who want to play offshore but don't trust it or can't fund the book for whatever reason will now be able to play with a legitimate book. They will also accept international customers (though not from the US) which could add an influx of money never before thought possible.

As for regulating flows to offshore books, Canada is not going to do it. Anyone who thinks that is downright stupid. Canada never has and never will police the internet for three reasons:

1. We don't have enough money, nor is it in the best interest of the people because Canadians just don't care.
2. You can never police the whole internet, it's simply too daunting of a task.
3. The Americans do it so we don't have to (not that we even want to).

If you think the government will put restrictions on banks, again, you are being stupid. Even if they did, they can never stop us from sending funds to transactors like P@yPa|, Moneyb00kers, W3st3rn Un|on, N3tt3ller, etc.

This opinion is absolutely astoundingly hilarious. Baseless and pointless but hilarious.

[frizzelli]

If this clown moves to Canada I will find him and the god damn life out of him. True story.

[secretstash]

If this clown moves to Canada I will find him and the god damn life out of him. True story.

we can gladly sbr video the fight.. i would like to win 1000s of sbr pts when they put up a line on the match and I send runners to bet it

-stash

[betplom]

Stash, you may want to check out RBC for your banking needs, they currently have promos for new residents of Canada, specifically for v i s a cards where you do not need a previous credit history in order to be approved.

You can use a V I S A card to fund your Moneybooker account and play at Pinnacle/Betfair/Greek etc.

You can have payouts sent directly to a RBC account from Moneybookers, usually takes less than 48 hours.

http://www.rbc.com/canada/banking-packages/index.html

[dj_destroyer]

I don`t know where you see 30 cent lines but I guarantee there will NEVER be 10 cent lines offered by the OLG or other provincial governments on single game wagers. You will be lucky to get 30. They are greedy and there are a lot of operational expenses. They won`t try to compete with Pinny. They will give shitty lines and make it very convenient for bettors. The advertising campaign will be huge and the feds will clamp down on financial institutions doing business with the competition.

I just looked at what the OLG is offering tonight on proline. Kings vs Yotes, OT included.

Kings are 1.6 (-167)
Coyotes are 1.9 (-111)

That`s a 56 cent line for something that has to be thrown into a parlay! You`re living in a dream world if you think OLG will deal dime lines on single game wagers. Dream on, buddy.

(I did the decimal to American conversions by hand, someone can correct me if I`m off)

When I said 30 cent lines, I meant 30 cents each way (60 cents total). And as much as I'd like for you to be right, you're wrong. OLG is going the route of the Europe/UK books.

It's unfortunate because it's rather easy to beat the OLG as it is now...

As sharps always say, I'll take a high-vig but slow moving and ineffecient market over a low-vig like Pinny any day.

[dj_destroyer]

This opinion is absolutely astoundingly hilarious. Baseless and pointless but hilarious.

You must be a cherry dikk fukk if you can't understand my points. And the points are based in a conversation I had with Mr. Melman.

Where you getting your information from?