Basic Strategy Pass Line Craps Bets Way Better Than Black Jack

**BIGDAY** · 04-27-12, 08:22 AM

Pass on both. Video poker.

**jjgold** · 04-27-12, 08:29 AM

Video Poker yes but your leaving out one thing

EXPERT PLAY only gives you an edge

Your not bright man

**BIGDAY** · 04-27-12, 08:39 AM

Oh yah, I forgot... You're the one with a higher education...I'll stick to fishing, u fuk.

**sweep** · 04-27-12, 09:00 AM

Table minimum on pass line then full odds behind. Hard to find tables with more than 7x odds tho, at least in AC.

**milwaukee mike** · 04-27-12, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by sweep

Table minimum on pass line then full odds behind. Hard to find tables with more than 7x odds tho, at least in AC.

yeah there aren't many people that are going to have the minimum $10 on the pass line and then $1000 behind with full odds to minimize house edge.

blackjack has a lower house edge for 99.999% of players

**BIGDAY** · 04-27-12, 10:17 AM

I feel like picking a fight with goldie locks today...

**Sam Odom** · 04-27-12, 10:19 AM

Single Zero Roulette w/La Partage = -1.35

Passline = -1.41

Dont pass = -1.36

**blackbeSSt** · 04-27-12, 10:24 AM

at the sbr casino, its all fukked up. period.

**jjgold** · 04-27-12, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Single Zero Roulette w/La Partage = -1.35

Passline = -1.41

Dont pass = -1.36

Sammy you factoring in like 5x odds backing up your number as far as craps is concerned??

**Sam Odom** · 04-27-12, 10:49 AM

JJ , NO

Odds are SEPARATE bets with NO affect on flat bet odds

**bigbet1234** · 04-27-12, 11:05 AM

0.02% with 100x odds on craps. Blackjack still the better game with correct BS. Most places only have max 10x odds.

**jjgold** · 04-27-12, 12:42 PM

I thought blackjack it has to be only one deck and dealer has to hold on any 17??

**bigbet1234** · 04-27-12, 04:13 PM

SD BJ can have a very low hold with decent rules. A typical 6D S17, DAS is right around .5%, perfect BS that is

**bigbet1234** · 04-27-12, 04:14 PM

O'Sheas in Vegas has 100x odds I think, or maybe Casino Royale, I forget. Do 100x max odds each roll, you will have some helluva swings, but in the long run, lose very little. Don't think they rate you comp wise on the Odds though

**Rio DiNero** · 04-27-12, 04:19 PM

I like chasing don't pass 3 times.

**LVHerbie** · 04-27-12, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by bigbet1234

0.02% with 100x odds on craps. Blackjack still the better game with correct BS. Most places only have max 10x odds.

I read somewhere that the Rivera recently added 1000x odds to their pass line bet...

BTW representing taking odds as "reducing" the edge is kindof disingenuous... For example a $5 bettor not taking odds is going to have the exact same expected loss as someone betting the same amount the on the pass line backing it up with full odds... Kindof like saying the edge of on a $5 bet on black in roulette is minuscule if the guy sitting next to you is willing to side bet you for 500 dollars and ignore the zeros...

In reality the only thing taking odds does is send your variance through the roof...

**InTheDrink** · 04-27-12, 04:47 PM

don't pass > pass

you wanna be buddies with everyone at the table or do you want a better chance to win?

**Balco10** · 04-27-12, 04:49 PM

They use a shoe that holds 6 decks and they hit on soft 17. Fuk BJ, it's too stressful watching the dealer pull on double face cards constantly.

**Avskum** · 05-22-12, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by bigbet1234

0.02% with 100x odds on craps. Blackjack still the better game with correct BS. Most places only have max 10x odds.

BJ with correct BS only gives you -0.5%

**Avskum** · 05-22-12, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Video Poker yes but your leaving out one thing

EXPERT PLAY only gives you an edge

Your not bright man

Read somewhere that you can get 0.1% at video poker with expert play, what are the best ways to find the correct chart for the right game?

**Dr. J Trotter** · 05-22-12, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

don't pass > pass

you wanna be buddies with everyone at the table or do you want a better chance to win?

The dealers and pit boss LOVE dopes like you at the table.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 05-22-12, 05:40 PM

O'Sheas is gone. When I play craps I bet the don't pass and stay quiet. The dice always make it around the table.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 05-22-12, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Avskum

Read somewhere that you can get 0.1% at video poker with expert play, what are the best ways to find the correct chart for the right game?

Research. Not many full pay vp on strip. Check with mofoker. He is the vp guy.

**Dr. J Trotter** · 05-22-12, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

O'Sheas is gone. When I play craps I bet the don't pass and stay quiet. The dice always make it around the table.

Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

Depressing.

**allabout the $$$** · 05-22-12, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Dr. J Trotter

Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

Depressing.

id rather be by myself with cash in my pocket than be around a bunch of broke mfers that lost all their money on the pass line

**a4u2fear** · 05-22-12, 05:52 PM

Pass on all of the above

**Grits n' Gravy** · 05-22-12, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Dr. J Trotter

Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

Depressing.

Very true. The key is to set a win goal and walk. Cashed out $6300 in less than hour at Rio last night.

**jarvol** · 05-22-12, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Dr. J Trotter

Then after getting your 3/5 odds, and the table clears out, you're there all by yourself looking like a dummy.

You could have bet a 3/5 at churchill downs and at least you could have been happy around other people.

Depressing.

Its not depressing to me to win money. Always try to find a quiet sad looking table and load up on the DP and DC lines.

**Dr. J Trotter** · 05-22-12, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Very true. The key is to set a win goal and walk. Cashed out $6300 in less than hour at Rio last night.

Cool Story

Tell it again

**Grits n' Gravy** · 05-23-12, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by Dr. J Trotter

Cool Story

Tell it again

Won $6300 in less than an hour at Rio 2 nights ago playing don't pass line on craps. There you go.

**NYSportsGuy210** · 05-23-12, 04:01 AM

Just play outside on the roulette wheel boys. It's pretty much 50-50 not counting the occasional green zeros.

**Avskum** · 05-24-12, 04:36 PM

anyone here knows if you ever double in perfect play in video poker? cant find a good thread about video poker someone plz link me?

**frogsrangers** · 05-24-12, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Just play outside on the roulette wheel boys. It's pretty much 50-50 not counting the occasional green zeros.

Not true

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**Jayvegas420** · 05-24-12, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

I read somewhere that the Rivera recently added 1000x odds to their pass line bet...

BTW representing taking odds as "reducing" the edge is kindof disingenuous... For example a $5 bettor not taking odds is going to have the exact same expected loss as someone betting the same amount the on the pass line backing it up with full odds... Kindof like saying the edge of on a $5 bet on black in roulette is minuscule if the guy sitting next to you is willing to side bet you for 500 dollars and ignore the zeros...

In reality the only thing taking odds does is send your variance through the roof...

Thats all that really needed to be said

Well done!