Sports Interaction---Asking for social security number for ID purposes

[hanco21]

To me this seems wrong asking for very personal information. I have never had a sportsbook ask for an ID but to ask for a social security number. I would like to know what people think about this. Oh yeah, they threatened to suspend my account if I didn't send the info within 24 hours. This is total horse-shiiiittt. I would recommend people staying away from this sportsbook. I submitted the request and still have not got paid.

To me neteller has already checked all my personal info, why does SIA need all this stuff.

[BuddyBear]

how are you paying....if you are paying for swift pay then you have to give it to them b/c swift pay requires it to verify bank account info....

if they are randomly asking you for it no apparent reason, then close your account and find another book....

[hanco21]

neteller...I would love to find another book. The problem is that I have $3000 in that book and I don't plan to leave it in there so I have to live by their dumb rules.

[BuddyBear]

weird....i am not sure what to say other than maybe Bill can help. My experience always has been that neteller is safe and problem free when dealing with them.

All I can say is that I hope it works out for you....

[tacomax]

neteller...I would love to find another book. The problem is that I have $3000 in that book and I don't plan to leave it in there so I have to live by their dumb rules.

I'm pretty sure you'll end up getting paid from them but it's true that the lower the quality of book you go to, the more hoops they generally make you jump thorugh.

[hanco21]

Here is what the email looks like that SIA sent me....
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We have received your recent withdrawal request for USD xxxxxxxx.

Sports Interaction values your business. Before we can process any withdrawals from your account, for security purposes and in the interest of preventing any fraudulent use of your personal financial or identity information, we respectfully request that you complete the 1 step(s) outlined below.

Step 1: Confirm your identity
To confirm your identity, please click on the link below. This simple process will enable us to confirm that you are who you say you are and is essential in our efforts to combat fraud and protect your security. The process should take less than one minute to complete and we can confirm successful completion immediately.

This identity verification service is provided in partnership with a leading US fraud prevention agency and the information you provide will be cross-checked against numerous official databases to confirm your identity. You will not be asked for any sensitive financial or personal data such as credit card or bank account details. All information is processed securely, is treated as strictly confidential and will not be made available to third parties.



(If you are unable to click on the above link, please copy and paste the link into your browser.)


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Once you have successfully completed the above we will process your withdrawal request immediately. Please note, it is important that you complete this within 24 hours, as failure to do so could lead to your account being suspended as a security measure.

We appreciate your co-operation in this matter and if you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact our Accounts department at accounts@sportsinteraction.com.

Thank you,

The SportsInteraction Team

http://www.sportsinteraction.com

[joe blow]

"To me neteller has already checked all my personal info, why does SIA need all this stuff"

I agree with this 100%It is also very wrong on there part to do this to a customer AFTER you been playing with them and you deposited netteller.
I really didn't like the fact that manison made me send them ID,but atleast they tell you about it on there webpg..I deposited $20 and then sent in my ID and waited intil i got an ok to withdrawal from them ,before i made a real deposit.

I would never pay with a book that needed my ss#.Unless they sent me theirs first
BOL

[wrongturn]

SIA should at least clearly indicates the SSN check in its rules so players can decide before deposit.

[hanco21]

The part I like is their quote below, its been 13 hours since I filled out their bs form and 48 hours since I requested a neteller withdrawal and still no payment..




Once you have successfully completed the above we will process your withdrawal request immediately. Please note, it is important that you complete this within 24 hours, as failure to do so could lead to your account being suspended as a security measure.

[increasedodds]

Would not fly with me

They have never asked me though.

My neteller is verified and if I deposit with it, I expect to be paid by it.

If they did not need my SSN to accept my money they have no reason to need it to pay my money.

I would throw a fit and then probably offer them the last 4 of my ssn.

-Sean

[hanco21]

They have never asked me though.

My neteller is verified and if I deposit with it, I expect to be paid by it.

If they did not need my SSN to accept my money they have no reason to need it to pay my money.

I would throw a fit and then probably offer them the last 4 of my ssn.

-Sean

I couldn't believe it, they did a credit check on me in order to pay me a neteller withdrawal. I never heard anything like this. Geez, am I buying car or am I gambling????

[joe blow]

A credit check????That's what they are doing????
That lowers your credit score..just alittle but also on your credit report it will look like you tryed to borrow money from them
Very nice sia
Good thread ,warns a guy like me to say away
THANKS......

[Bill Dozer]

SIA can get a bit overzealous in their fraud checks. They have hung up players for a long time only to eventually pay. Unless they tell the player up front they are going too far here. At some point you have to draw the line. I have emailed the Ops Director about this. Stand by.

I am all for fraud control but they need to get a better internal system or accept some of it as overhead.

[scottyy11]

thats just crazy but not unexpected from a sh#t scamming book like sia............maybe they hired their old managers back from a few yrs ago

[Brick Tamland]

i would make sure an give it 100% and send a stool sample as well. then they can compare dna and niblets

[Mudcat]

i would make sure an give it 100% and send a stool sample as well. then they can compare dna and niblets

Sharp post.

[stump]

never ever give your social security number out to a sports book, none of the top books ask for it.

[hanco21]

never ever give your social security number out to a sports book, none of the top books ask for it.

I had no choice or leave 3K in there.

[natrass]

Can someone clarify for me?

Is there ever a reason for a book to request ID when you pay by neteller/moneybookers?

Maybe photo ID if there are bonuses involved?

I paid moneybookers to mansion and they ID'd me. BUT they state this up front and it was only one piece of photo ID. Still, for a book desperate to get a foothold it seems a negative step (I mean, they dont even offer bonuses).

Incidently, I did kick up a fuss (especially when they lost it) but I kind of respected the way CS kind of argued back and didnt BS me. They are quite up front ... its nothing to do with gaming laws, money laundering, etc but purely to protect themselves.

Personally, if a book ID's me then I dont go back. It is definately never a good sign.

[BrentCrude]

Hmmm,the federal government wants to know who's not paying taxes on winnings?

Sports Interaction is right on the New York-Canada border on an Indian reservation the Canadian feds have wanted to control for years.The Indians on that rez are pretty defiant about their sovereignity free nation status and don't want anyone telling them what to do including running internet gambling sites by the hundreds.

Something seems to be in the works with deal making on all these reservations that sell cigarettes online at dirt cheap prices where all the states got ahold of who bought them and now want back taxes.

I can imagine what the states and provinces do is tell the Indians they won't give them federal and state freebie handouts if they don't comply and hand over information they want including the names of people who do business with them.

The friggin socialist welfare states like Minnesota now charge $4 a pack for cigs and they need all that tax money to flush down the toilet on socialist make work programs and handouts.

Here it was the stain ''Clinton''that gave Indians the money to build tobacco stores and cigarette manufacturing plants on the rez and the feds are harping how people shouldn't smoke.The government would be up a creek running short of tax revenue if people all quit smoking so I wish they would shut the hell up with that we know what's best for you BS they peddle us every hour of the day.

[pags11]

I agree with others here in that if you deposit via neteller, no social security numbers or anything like that should be necessary...I've found that many books make you jump through these hoops so that you keep the money in there and hopefully eventually lose it...with SIA, I'm not saying this is the case (although I have read several slow pay complaints about them)...I'm just saying many other books will use this as a smoke screen (much like the "clear" photo ID deal)...

[Bill Dozer]

Hanco,

I was told your payout was processed. Did you give them the digits?

[hanco21]

Hi Bill,

Yes, I was paid but very unhappy that I had to provide my social security number in order to get the payout. Thanks again Bill.

[gotsteam]

SIA can get a bit overzealous in their fraud checks. They have hung up players for a long time only to eventually pay. Unless they tell the player up front they are going too far here. At some point you have to draw the line. I have emailed the Ops Director about this. Stand by.

I am all for fraud control but they need to get a better internal system or accept some of it as overhead.

This book is rated a C+ like BetOnSports.

Why are we here CONTINUALLY making excuses for some books.

BOTTOM LINE:
It does not state they require SSN anywhere on their web site. Yet, if you want to withdraw, they force you to provide it?

This is a deceptive tactic, used to either delay/stall a payout, or to force us as players to continue betting in the hopes we will lose.

IMHO this warrants a downgrade

[isetcap]

SIA should indeed be punished with a lower rating for requesting a player's Social Security number and then running a credit check on him. This behavior is absolutely absurd. What exactly is SIA planning on doing with the credit profile? Will they claim they can withhold winnings if the player is in collection with one of his credit cards, or perhaps they can just confiscate all of his money if he's missed his child support payments?

[Patrick McIrish]

Bill can you follow up on this? Is this going to be routine now every time you try to get a W/D from this outfit? We all know they hate to send out money, these guys take it personal when you ask for your winnings, but to run credit checks and ask for SS numbers? If this is going to be the new policy I think it needs to be spread so players are aware of it.

[hanco21]

Bill can you follow up on this? Is this going to be routine now every time you try to get a W/D from this outfit? We all know they hate to send out money, these guys take it personal when you ask for your winnings, but to run credit checks and ask for SS numbers? If this is going to be the new policy I think it needs to be spread so players are aware of it.

Patrick,

Its for real. I pasted the email which is above stating if I wanted a withdrawal I had to do there ID check. Well, OK I hit the link where it told me to go and it says enter social security number. After entering my social which I did not want to do questions came up like I was taking a test. They knew my sisters name, her age and I had to answer that correctly. Another question was to verify an old address of about 3-4 years ago which I never gave SIA. So yes to get this kind info they did some sort of credit check. I asked them what type of credit check it was and they would not tell me.

[Dumb_lucK]

Here is what the email looks like that SIA sent me....
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This identity verification service is provided in partnership with a leading US fraud prevention agency and the information you provide will be cross-checked against numerous official databases to confirm your identity. You will not be asked for any sensitive financial or personal data such as credit card or bank account details. All information is processed securely, is treated as strictly confidential and will not be made available to third parties.


http://www.sportsinteraction.com

Clearly it states in their email that the verification process used in this case was not of SIA, it would appear this is probably an outside company used to identify a person. I'll just double quote the email just in case it was missed.. "This identity verification service is provided in partnership with a leading US fraud prevention agency and the information you provide will be cross-checked against numerous official databases to confirm your identity"

Perhaps Dozer can verify this information with the manager of Sports Interaction and find out exactly what this process is and why it is required to could ease everyone's pain or Horrific Stories.

[Brick Tamland]

This book is rated a C+ like BetOnSports.

Why are we here CONTINUALLY making excuses for some books.

BOTTOM LINE:
It does not state they require SSN anywhere on their web site. Yet, if you want to withdraw, they force you to provide it?

This is a deceptive tactic, used to either delay/stall a payout, or to force us as players to continue betting in the hopes we will lose.

IMHO this warrants a downgrade

the guy is critsizing SIA... we need tacomax to run this guy out a here.

[tacomax]

the guy is critsizing SIA... we need tacomax to run this guy out a here.

Me? I think that SIA are pretty crap, personally.

[Brick Tamland]

Me? I think that SIA are pretty crap, personally.

I meant that bill is saying sia is wrong.

[Doug]

I haven't played there in a few months, but have had an account for years.

You guys are saying if I re-up via NT, win and withdraw I have to go thru this crap, or is it new customers only ?

[rolemand]

Patrick,

Its for real. I pasted the email which is above stating if I wanted a withdrawal I had to do there ID check. Well, OK I hit the link where it told me to go and it says enter social security number. After entering my social which I did not want to do questions came up like I was taking a test. They knew my sisters name, her age and I had to answer that correctly. Another question was to verify an old address of about 3-4 years ago which I never gave SIA. So yes to get this kind info they did some sort of credit check. I asked them what type of credit check it was and they would not tell me.

This type of questioning is extremely similar to what I had to go through with Neteller about 2 years ago when I requested higher limits. I got a call from someone at neteller asking about addresses from years ago when I was in college and if I know so and so and I'm like yeah I work with someone by that name but I don't really know them. It was no big deal but I don't remember one way or another about confirming SS#.

[hanco21]

I haven't played there in a few months, but have had an account for years.

You guys are saying if I re-up via NT, win and withdraw I have to go thru this crap, or is it new customers only ?

I am pretty sure. After multiple deposits and losing everything was fine. Then I finally won some money two months later and then they required me give then Social security number along with answering questions about my family, etc.

[isetcap]

I am pretty sure. After multiple deposits and losing everything was fine. Then I finally won some money two months later and then they required me give then Social security number along with answering questions about my family, etc.

As mentioned earlier, this is exactly the same process Neteller follows to verify their accounts. Many people chirp about how wonderful Neteller is, but when you dig a little deeper you realize you are being deceived.

Directly from Neteller's ToS...

25. You acknowledge that for identity verification purposes, the following information may be provided to Merchants who you transfer funds to or from: Name, Account Number, Jurisdiction, Email Address, and/or IP Number.