LoL @ Assumssen & Faux Noos Polls !!!!!!!!!!! The worst rated polls from the 2010 Elections !!!!!!!!!!!
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2010 Mid-terms... The biggest positive swing for Repubs country wide in 75 years , right?Comment -
2009 - Inauguration
Full blown recession
2 Wars Going Full Steam
Auto industry in absolute crisis
Bin Laden on the loose
A short 3 Years later
Economy on the mend (What's the dow up since Jan 2009?)
1 War ended, the other on a time frame to wind down
Auto industry stabilized
Bin Laden DOA
Compound this with the fact that republicans can't seem to table a highway bill without wanting a vaginal probe or abortion video mandate, and Mitt has his work cut out for him.
Will all these evangelicals who consider Mormanism to be a "cult" really get that fired up for him?Comment -
muldoon , you would think Obama should be up by 15-20%
stupid fat AmericansComment -
The Muslim said "guns and religion"
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Romney is a rich pompous ass fuk'in joke! Women and minorities will NEVER vote for that rich asshole! Obama the bin laden killer, the guy who fuk'ed up Somali pirates and rescued a ship captain, the only president with balls to take on health care and give a shit about the common work'in man, will win in a landslide!
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Flippitty Floppity. They call him Flipper.Attached FilesComment -
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Romney is a rich pompous ass fuk'in joke! Women and minorities will NEVER vote for that rich asshole! Obama the bin laden killer, the guy who fuk'ed up Somali pirates and rescued a ship captain, the only president with balls to take on health care and give a shit about the common work'in man, will win in a landslide!
baaaaa, baaaaa sheep
So laughable Obama the bin laden killer, like he had anything to do with it
yeah, he repelled from the stealth blackhawk with black combat gear and clear oakleys a la Will Smith in Bad Boys 2 and gave ole Osama a quick double tap to the forehead
and yeah, he cares so much for the working man that his idea of universal health-care is requiring that people who can't afford it buy health coverage or be fined
he's done, buried himself with all of the radical hope and change and "this will be a one term proposition" garbage in 08Comment -
at possibility a stay at home mum could potentially be 1st lady. I'm sure she has a lot of experience in world affairs and the like. What a joke...
Not saying being a mum isn't easy but when ur going 4 the number 1 position in American politics a stay at home mum on the CV isn't gonna cut itComment -
wheels are coming off thread... per usual
will be a crazy campaign season for sureComment -
When you're out of touch with America, you're pretty much fuk'in out of touch! Has nothing to do with a "gambling forum", you don't have to be rich to gamble. Of course you probably think most of the degenerates on here are! Spoken like a true out of touch far far right winger!
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We know the gay vote goes to Democrats....calm down son.Romney is a rich pompous ass fuk'in joke! Women and minorities will NEVER vote for that rich asshole! Obama the bin laden killer, the guy who fuk'ed up Somali pirates and rescued a ship captain, the only president with balls to take on health care and give a shit about the common work'in man, will win in a landslide!Comment -
Wait until summer when gas prices go even higher. People are gonna be pissed.Comment -
Too early to get into an uproar on this. If Israel attacks Iran this late summer/fall, and gas prices go even higher, Obama is toast. If the Zimmerman trial happens close to elections, and he is found innocent or plea bargains, there will be no election this year in the interest of public safety from the White House.Comment -
Romney lol....I guess they hate winning elections.... Ez gameComment -
excellent post.Romney is a rich pompous ass fuk'in joke! Women and minorities will NEVER vote for that rich asshole! Obama the bin laden killer, the guy who fuk'ed up Somali pirates and rescued a ship captain, the only president with balls to take on health care and give a shit about the common work'in man, will win in a landslide!
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Obama or Romney? I'm having a hard time caring.Comment -
lawl.... who cares really, what any poll says right now. everyone knows rommney is going to make many many mistakes in his campaign, and obama is going to crush him when the actual campaign starts up. and just wait in'till the debates.
and knowing rommney, like i think i do. he is going to choose a sarah palin like vp person. where people will vote for him because he DOESN't believe in the evolution. some southern republican/governor/senator
just seen a sad,sad, poll. **** a poll about an election that is a few months away, and who cares what a national poll says anyways. its all about the battle ground states. 5-8 states are going to decide this election. thats it.
but anyways back to the sad, poll. less americans believe in science today then they did 30 years ago. thank you sarah palin.
"To highlight the dramatic impact conservative views of science have had on public opinion, Gauchat pointed to results from Gallup, which found in 2012 that just 30% of conservatives believed the Earth was warming as a result of greenhouse gases versus 50% two years earlier. In contrast, the poll showed almost no change in the opinion of liberals, with 74% believing in global warming in 2010 versus 72% in 2008."
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that is so ******* stupid, oil is traded at an international market.
their is very very very little a president can do to control the price.
right now we are producing more oil then ever and still are hitting record levels of gas. everyone is talking about this keystone pipeline, but most people don't know alot of that oil won't even stay in the united states. not to mention since oil is traded on an international market, if the pipeline did go to china, it would help the overall supply/demand dynamics. (which in reality have little to do with the price right now)
its just that people are so ignorant and just want to blame the opposite party. both parties do this same shit, when a democrat is an office, gop, rants about a democrat not drilling enough. when a republican is an office democrats bitch that his policies have created higher prices.
why can't both parties just admit, there is little to nothing we can do to control the price.Comment -
When will people wake the fuk up? Obama has nothing to do with the rise in gas prices! Rich fuk'in Wall Street speculators and gas corporations like Exxon Mobil along with the refineries that THEY fuk'in own, control the flow and supply of gas! Were not even using as much gas as we were a year ago and those rich bastards still continue to increase wholesale prices! If fact, we have a surplus of gas right now, but no fuk'in way oil companies will release it, because then the price would drop and help our economy continue to comeback.
But hell fuk'in no, rich fuk'in republicans and their cronies on wall street, not to mention the oil companies who contribute millions to their campaigns, can't let that happen, because they want a republican in the white house to continue their ass fuk'ing of the poor and middle class America!Comment -
Massachusetts polls have Obama up by 15 points or more and even though its obvious they aren't remotely accurate, liberal blowhards jerk off to them on a daily basis.
If Rasmussen had Obama up by double digits, you wouldn't hear a peep from liberals about them. Rasmussen was right on target in the 2008 election and they are the most reliable polling outfit this time around as well.
If Obama was truly up by double digits as the incumbent, you would NEVER be able to buy him at -150 anywhere.
Whether its Obama in the White House come November or Romney, it really won't matter either way as liberals will spend every waking moment complaining about how unfair everything is and that the rich aren't paying enough in tax.
Obama's been the POTUS for 3 years and liberal democrats are whining and screeching LOUDER than ever.
SBR gives free points away everyday which can be used to buy all sorts of things and yet MikeJamm whines and complains with statements like "Fuk'in SBR joke poker rollover bullshit". Liberal democrats TAKE AND TAKE and give back ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to society.
Imagine how great the U.S. would be if all the liberal democrats vanished off the face of the Earth.Comment -
All of this still doesn't answer the charge that Rasmussen's polling methods are out of date, I don't care if Rasmussen has Obama up by 40 points, land line only that you try to compensate for by internet polling is terrible methodology. It was a better methodology in 2008 than it is today and no data that people point to from 2008 is relevant to that assertion.
You seem to still be under the mistaken assumption that predictive markets are the same as snapshot polls. Snapshot polls show the conditions on the ground today, betting odds are about how people think the conditions on the ground will be in the future. The closer to an event the more accurately reflecting lines should be, because the information is simply better. If Obama was up double digits today you still wouldn't seem him as that big of a favorite on betting sites because so much can happen between now and then that you'd never be able to induce action on both sides by making one side such a huge favorite this far away from an event.
The system is unfair, a blind man can see that. We don't live in a meritocracy, and the gap between rich and poor has been widening over the last 30 years. Of course if you truly believe the system is fair the way it is there's really no hope for you, we can all quibble about how to solve the problems inherent in the system, but the idea that the system is currently working or is fair is laughable. You do go on to later say that you think the world would be better off without liberal democrats, so I guess your solution would be something akin to some weird theocratic but yet somehow non-governmental utopia.
You are a real piece of work, you know that? I can't tell if you're just an internet troll or are serious in your ideas. You appear to support segregation and unequal rights, and are full of hate and vitriol. Your last statement probably is just a racist dog whistle anyway and what you really want to say is, "Imagine how great the U.S. would be if all the blacks and minorities vanished off the face of the Earth." From what I can tell you're mostly a caricature of what people on the left think of people on the right than what I hope most people on the right are really like.
I also wonder if you even care that some of the conservatives that you hold so dear are the reason that you can't easily gamble on the internet.Comment -
I have NEVER received a phone call from any polling firm on my cell phone. The majority of Americans have cell phone plans with limited minutes and any polling results achieved from calling to cell phones would be unreliable. I'm convinced you're opposition to Rasmussen polling is 100% due to their polling results showing this race to be within the margin of error.All of this still doesn't answer the charge that Rasmussen's polling methods are out of date, I don't care if Rasmussen has Obama up by 40 points, land line only that you try to compensate for by internet polling is terrible methodology. It was a better methodology in 2008 than it is today and no data that people point to from 2008 is relevant to that assertion.Clearly, you know very little about how predictive markets like Intrade operate and suffice it to say you're 100% wrong. At the beginning of the year, Mitt Romney was trading in the low 90's even though the GOP race was far from decided and the republican convention being held August 27th. If Obama truly had a double digit lead over Romney, he would be trading around 80 (-400) at the present time.You seem to still be under the mistaken assumption that predictive markets are the same as snapshot polls. Snapshot polls show the conditions on the ground today, betting odds are about how people think the conditions on the ground will be in the future. The closer to an event the more accurately reflecting lines should be, because the information is simply better. If Obama was up double digits today you still wouldn't seem him as that big of a favorite on betting sites because so much can happen between now and then that you'd never be able to induce action on both sides by making one side such a huge favorite this far away from an event.
Incumbents are notoriously overbet due to the campaigning advantage they have over any opposition and even though the republicans ripped each other to shreds during the GOP primary, Obama's price never budged above 61-62.The system in the U.S. is as fair as can possibly be if everyone is to have a chance at financial success. Only in America, could someone like Barack Obama achieve the highest office. In any other country, he would have absolutely no chance to become president or have any real power.The system is unfair, a blind man can see that. We don't live in a meritocracy, and the gap between rich and poor has been widening over the last 30 years. Of course if you truly believe the system is fair the way it is there's really no hope for you, we can all quibble about how to solve the problems inherent in the system, but the idea that the system is currently working or is fair is laughable. You do go on to later say that you think the world would be better off without liberal democrats, so I guess your solution would be something akin to some weird theocratic but yet somehow non-governmental utopia.
People who complain about the "system being unfair" could NEVER succeed no matter how the system is structured. I was dead broke 10 years ago but I worked 60 hour weeks and saved as much as I could, made the proper investments and now I have more money than I'll ever need. There are small changes that need to be made including only offering government financial assistance to those actually working, making sure that all full-time workers are given the opportunity to buy medical insurance for themselves and their families regardless of pre-existing conditions, etc. Also, we need to start winding down social security and medicare as both of these democratic party brainchilds will bankrupt this country all by themselves.I despise white liberal democrats far more than blacks or any other minority group. The last thing in the world that I care about is what liberal democrats think of me. I have no liberal friends and never will. The democratic party and their support base are primarily responsible for the destruction of the U.S. currently underway.You are a real piece of work, you know that? I can't tell if you're just an internet troll or are serious in your ideas. You appear to support segregation and unequal rights, and are full of hate and vitriol. Your last statement probably is just a racist dog whistle anyway and what you really want to say is, "Imagine how great the U.S. would be if all the blacks and minorities vanished off the face of the Earth." From what I can tell you're mostly a caricature of what people on the left think of people on the right than what I hope most people on the right are really like.
I also wonder if you even care that some of the conservatives that you hold so dear are the reason that you can't easily gamble on the internet.
Liberal democrats see what is happening around the world to socialist countries like Greece and they are slamming on the gas pushing our country down that same road that has failed time and time again.
When I was broke I didn't hate the wealthy as liberal democrats do today and I certainly didn't blame them for the position I found myself in. Reading about the wealthy and how they found success inspired me into becoming wealthy myself.
I'm well aware that the republicans are 100% responsible for the UIGEA which has made online gambling far more difficult and it has negatively affected me far more than 99% of the people who post on this site. However, the democrats promised to get the UIGEA reversed and had 2 full years of total power to do it. Instead of getting UIGEA repealed, they set out to destroy our medical care system and I hope the Supreme Court does the right thing and tosses the ObamaCare law into the trash where it belongs.
If Obama is re-elected, liberal democrats will celebrate and conservatives will be disgusted. However, when we all wake up the next morning, liberals will still be whining and complaining about how unfair everything is living mediocre lives while conservatives will be making whatever adjustments are necessary to deal with any changes that might take place with an Obama victory.
The republicans are overwhelmingly favored to control both the house and senate and rest assured if Obama wins re-election, he will be handcuffed from Day 1 of his 2nd term (for at least 2 years anyway).Comment -
I encountered my 1st true 25 yo liberal and have to say, he made me sick also.
The subject was illegal aliens. He had no problem whatsoever with letting them
come freely and do whatever they wanted. He was also a Ron Paul fan.
A live at home, no driving, have mommy and daddy provide everything and this
is his 1st job out of college for mechanical engineering and doesn't know how
a hammer drill worked. I believe he's queer also, which would bring out the liberal
perspective on life.
Since I'm mostly conservative and for the preservation of our culture, meeting a
true liberal did upset me, so I know where Andy is coming from.Comment -
And I will continue to say that a poll which only polls people between 5-9 pm on weeknights, which only speaks to the first person who answers the phone, and that doesn't poll now 30% of the population is neither scientific, nor accurate, despite its accuracy in 2008 when a far smaller percentage of people had abandoned traditional land lines.
You do realize that your second sentence completely contradictions your assertion that predictive markets can be viewed in the same way as polls right? The polling data showed a tight race for the Republican nomination, and yet intrade had Mitt Romney at a commanding 90% to win the nomination. So people, instead of relying on polls on the ground, were predicting the potential outcome. Polls, on the other hand, which measure who people will vote for at a given time, instead measure voter preference, not who people think will win. Romney didn't have a double digit lead as shown to be accurate by the state by state voting(not polling), but yet he was trading at 90% so clearly there is a disconnect between the predictive market and the actual voting based on the polls. If Obama has a double digit lead now it wouldn't make a lick of difference to most people on Intrade because they are not trading on what the situation on the ground in a fluid election is, they are trading on what they think the situation on the ground will be on election day 6.5 months from now, this is borne out by the Romney polling at 90% despite not having a commanding lead in the polls, polling data which was confirmed by actual state by state voting.
Only in America? That's quite the Americocentric position there. Plenty of people throughout the world come from humble roots to rise to power in their respective countries. Besides that, one person becoming powerful is not proof that we have a fair system, it is only proof that it was fair enough to allow that one person to rise to a position of power. But I'm sure from now on whenever someone talks about the unfairness of the system, you will trot out Barack Obama and say, here look, it must mean we have a fair system. Was the system fair before Barack Obama became President? When did it become fair? Was it fair in the 1950s when we had segregation? Was it fair in the 1960s during the height of the civil rights movement? Was it fair during the 1970s when the women's rights movement really kicked into high gear? Did it then become fair in the 1980s? When would you say the system became fair, or in your view was it always fair?
So wait, you just got done saying that Barack Obama is proof that the system is fair, and now you're saying that people who complain about the system being unfair could never succeed no matter how the system is structured. Is Barack Obama not successful? Is he not complaining that the system is unfair? Are the Democrats in Congress unsuccessful? Are they not complaining how the system is unfair? Is Warren Buffett unsuccessful? Is he not complaining about how the system is unfair?
But wait, you want to make sure that people have the opportunity to buy medical insurance for themselves and their families regardless of pre-existing conditions, but you want to have the Affordable Care Act overturned? You do realize that guaranteed issue and community rating(that's the technical term for being able to buy insurance with pre-existing conditions at the same rate as others) are part of the heart of the Affordable Care Act right? You do know that the only way that that can happen is that everyone has to buy insurance. Without the individual mandate or single payer it is impossible to have guaranteed issue and community rating without the whole system breaking down. The reason this is the case is because if you could just buy health insurance at any time regardless of pre-existing conditions, you would just not buy it, wait til you got sick, and then buy it. There would be no way for health insurance companies to exist in that regime, they wouldn't be able to pay for sick people going into the system because they would lack the healthy people to pay it, that's one of the primary reasons for the individual mandate, its the solution to allowing people with pre-existing conditions into the system. The individual mandate also serves as a solution to the free rider problem of people going into hospitals without coverage in emergency situations and being treated anyway and passing that cost, when they can't pay, to you and me who do have insurance.
They will bankrupt this country, but not because of anything that anyone did besides start having less kids. If the population wasn't aging like it is, and the US was still growing at the same rate(assuming that we could find the jobs for those people), Social Security and Medicare would be fine. They are ponzi schemes, they need to have steady streams of new people to pay for the old people. Something has got to give with them, you're right, but I don't think you'd much like the world as it looks for the elderly and the sick without them, especially without SS disability.
And now we bring out one country as an example of why liberal "socialist" policies are failures. What about Germany, whose economy is still in fine shape? Are they not also socialist? Canada? With its universal healthcare, also in fine shape. You are confusing the situation in Greece, which is an economy primarily based on tourism, to the situation in all "socialist" nations, some of which have strong robust economies that have good production and diverse economic production. The problems in Greece are also compounded by the fact that, unlike the US, they can't just print their own currency, so when their debts are due, their debts are really due. They need to either go the way of the Ancient Greeks or get bailed out by those that actually control their currency. Greece did overspend, but the ultimate issue is that their economy is not robust. It has very little to do with socialism and more to do with the underlying fundamentals of economic activity in the place.
That sounds like you're saying that liberal democrats are engaging in "The Bitter Politics of Envy(TM)" But, you're just assuming that people who are liberal democrats hate rich people(even though many liberal democrats are rich). Its not about hating rich people, and its not about blaming them for the plight of the poor. Its about a fundamental fairness that isn't here. The wealthy have most of the power, and they also have the ear of those in power to make sure that they keep more power. The deck is rigged, but you somehow think that its not rigged. I can't change your views on the world, but I don't understand how can't just look around and see that the deck isn't stacked.
a) The Democrats did not have a fillbuster proof majority in the Senate for most of that time which because of the way our system works actually makes a lot of things hard to get done without some sort of support from the other side. b) So they set out to destroy the medical care system? Was it working really well with premiums rising every year by approximately 15%? Also see my post above about your desire to be able to get insurance with pre-existing conditions.
Yes because no liberals are rich, they are all poor and leeching off the system, no wealthy people voted for Obama and none will this time. Conservatives are all winners, and liberals are all losers. Conservatives can make adjustments to changes but liberals can't. You will never see a conservative complain about a single thing about the system because they aren't whiners. You are so smart, whatever can I do to be smart like you about the ways of generalizing liberals and conservatives?
Will the Republican party's number one political priority then be to make Obama a two term President?
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Please stop referring to obama as for the working man. I am a working man and obama is creating massive debt for me to pay back.Comment -
just anther example of mitt rommney making up his mind as he goes, and this time its in record time. only 3 months ago he said this.
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It's beyond gas prices it's everyday living expenses that shot up, demos got to wake up understand there polices do not work in this economyComment -
I love how the democrats are always trying to link wall st and republicans. It's fukkin laughable. Who got the most in contributions from wall st in the last presidential election? Obama. Not to mention Obama goes and has $50,000 dollar a plate fundraising dinners with the fukks.Comment
