Blackjack Strategy: Learning From Don Johnson

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  • PhillyFlyers
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-27-11
    • 8245

    #1
    Blackjack Strategy: Learning From Don Johnson
  • ttrace35
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-10
    • 10828

    #2
    Blackjack is easy to master. I won 10K at that same tropicana a few years back.
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    • soul786
      SBR MVP
      • 03-09-12
      • 1697

      #3
      interesting read; a lot of that you learn as you play consistently, I use some of those strats except doubling (I only double 11's and rarely split) i need to hit up another casino soon
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      • d2bets
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 39995

        #4
        So he played at tables with good rules and played basic strategy. And bet large. That's the long and the short of it?
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        • ttrace35
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-30-10
          • 10828

          #5
          The main thing I learned is to never go away from your strategy. Even when it is not working. Never switch. Always split the eights and always double on 11. Also. Must get aggressive when the dealer is showing either 3,4,5,6. For instance. Let's say dealer is showing a 6, and I have 4-4. I would split the two 4's to make 2 hands. Dealer 6 is the highest pecentage chance for him to bust. Advantage me. Always try to make 2 hands in this case. Same withe dealer 4,5,6. This is the key to winning in black jack. You have many options with dealer showing 4,5,6.
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          • soul786
            SBR MVP
            • 03-09-12
            • 1697

            #6
            For the seasoned black-jacker's:

            When playing at a casino for example (not online, in person), do you try to sit at a table with only you and the dealer? Are you hindered by more people playing at the same table as you?
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            • byronbb
              SBR MVP
              • 11-13-08
              • 3067

              #7
              Originally posted by d2bets
              So he played at tables with good rules and played basic strategy. And bet large. That's the long and the short of it?
              And he had a 20% discount on loses apparently.
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              • ttrace35
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-30-10
                • 10828

                #8
                Originally posted by soul786
                For the seasoned black-jacker's:

                When playing at a casino for example (not online, in person), do you try to sit at a table with only you and the dealer? Are you hindered by more people playing at the same table as you?
                I like to play just me and the dealer. But when I wom my 10k I was forced to sit with one other person. Its ok as long as that person or people know how to play. If they are doing dumb shit, like staying on 16, they will wreck you.
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                • hels
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-12-09
                  • 8767

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ttrace35
                  The main thing I learned is to never go away from your strategy. Even when it is not working. Never switch. Always split the eights and always double on 11. Also. Must get aggressive when the dealer is showing either 3,4,5,6. For instance. Let's say dealer is showing a 6, and I have 4-4. I would split the two 4's to make 2 hands. Dealer 6 is the highest pecentage chance for him to bust. Advantage me. Always try to make 2 hands in this case. Same withe dealer 4,5,6. This is the key to winning in black jack. You have many options with dealer showing 4,5,6.
                  No, you never split 4s or 5s. This is blackjack basic strategy 101.
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base
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                    • ttrace35
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-30-10
                      • 10828

                      #11
                      Originally posted by hels
                      No, you never split 4s or 5s. This is blackjack basic strategy 101.
                      I dunno about that. Maybe double down? That at least. I would have to look that up. Maybe the play is to double down in that situation. Obviously with 2 10,s you would double down
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                      • ttrace35
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-30-10
                        • 10828

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                        playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base
                        That's bullshit. If you are doing dumb shit at a blackjack table, people won't play with you. Its for a reason.
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom

                          playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base

                          Originally posted by ttrace35

                          That's bullshit.




                          Nothing left to say...
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                          • ttrace35
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-30-10
                            • 10828

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hels
                            No, you never split 4s or 5s. This is blackjack basic strategy 101.
                            Go back and check your basic strategy black jack chart again. I was correct. You split 4's against a dealer 6. I does this son. Should know your facts before going around correcting people.
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                            • Sam Odom
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-30-05
                              • 58063

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ttrace35

                              Should know your facts before going around correcting people.

                              considering...
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                              • ttrace35
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-30-10
                                • 10828

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                considering...
                                I never heard of you son. Get lost.
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                                • biggie12
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-30-05
                                  • 13792

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ttrace35
                                  Go back and check your basic strategy black jack chart again. I was correct. You split 4's against a dealer 6. I does this son. Should know your facts before going around correcting people.


                                  There is many times you deviate from basic strategy and split 3's 4's 5's 6's even against 7 all depends on true count at the time
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Trigger with some good info here

                                    Black Jack is so addicting
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                                    • ttrace35
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-30-10
                                      • 10828

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by biggie12
                                      There is many times you deviate from basic strategy and split 3's 4's 5's 6's even against 7 all depends on true count at the time
                                      This is why people lose. Why would ever splt 3,4,5,6 against a dealer 7. Doesn't make any sense.
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                                      • Grits n' Gravy
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 13024

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                        playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base
                                        This is the truth. You may get screwed every now and then by a bad player but they will also help you every now and then. Playing consistently and proper money management are the 2 keys to winning long term.
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                                        • ttrace35
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-30-10
                                          • 10828

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                          This is the truth. You may get screwed every now and then by a bad player but they will also help you every now and then. Playing consistently and proper money management are the 2 keys to winning long term.
                                          I disagree. Picture being in the pit, 100 a hand. Then some hamburger is in there and can't make his mind up. Sometimes he hits on 16. Sometimes he doesn't. Will drive you fukkin nuts and you will run from the table.
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ttrace35

                                            I disagree.

                                            That is your prerogative... but mathematically/statistically you are WRONG
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                                            • d2bets
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 39995

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                              That is your prerogative... but mathematically/statistically you are WRONG
                                              You're right, but human nature and enjoyment is part of the game. When you've got people doing all sorts of wacky shit, it's so difficult to get over when a wacky play costs you a big hand. It just effects your enjoyment if nothing else. Best to avoid when possible.
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                                              • ttrace35
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-30-10
                                                • 10828

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                You're right, but human nature and enjoyment is part of the game. When you've got people doing all sorts of wacky shit, it's so difficult to get over when a wacky play costs you a big hand. It just effects your enjoyment if nothing else. Best to avoid when possible.
                                                Thissssss
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                                                • Sam Odom
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                  • 58063

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ttrace35

                                                  Thissssss

                                                  - he is agreeing with my post #10 which you called bullshit

                                                  Smokers at my table bothers me more than a poor (non basic strategy) player -- so I get up and leave most of the time
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                                                  • hels
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-12-09
                                                    • 8767

                                                    #26
                                                    Unless you're counting cards you shouldn't even bother looking at other players' hands. Focus on your game and your strategy to make the most profit.

                                                    Hitting or not on 16 doesn't really matter (unless you count). If I've been dealt 2,3,4,2,5 = 16 I would probably stand -- I count cards though and obviously will make a decision based on the count.
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                                                    • ttrace35
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-30-10
                                                      • 10828

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by hels
                                                      Unless you're counting cards you shouldn't even bother looking at other players' hands. Focus on your game and your strategy to make the most profit.

                                                      Hitting or not on 16 doesn't really matter (unless you count). If I've been dealt 2,3,4,2,5 = 16 I would probably stand -- I count cards though and obviously will make a decision based on the count.
                                                      Just important for them to be consistant. Also can't stand people jumping in and out of shoes.
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                                                      • ttrace35
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-30-10
                                                        • 10828

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                        - he is agreeing with my post #10 which you called bullshit

                                                        Smokers at my table bothers me more than a poor (non basic strategy) player -- so I get up and leave most of the time
                                                        Was agreeing with the part that it is best to avoid these bad players. Go find somebody else to e-argue with Sam. Maybe can find Mayan to fight with.
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          not arguing with you... tt

                                                          just trying to educate you a bit... God Bless

                                                          BTW- you should NOT play anywhere/table where you 'feel' uncomfortable
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                                                          • ttrace35
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-30-10
                                                            • 10828

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                            not arguing with you... tt

                                                            just trying to educate you a bit... God Bless

                                                            BTW- you should NOT play anywhere/table where you 'feel' uncomfortable
                                                            Technically it may have no difference. But it feels like it does. Its like playing roulette. When you walk to a table and look up at the board, your not gonna put a stack of money on the last number played. Would be dumb wouldn't it. Even though, mathematically, that is a dummy board because one spin has absolutely nothing to do with the next spin
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                                                            • King Mayan
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                                                              • 09-22-10
                                                              • 21326

                                                              #31
                                                              Ttrace dont argue with sammy, he forgets to take his red pill and all hell breaks loose.
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                                                              • ttrace35
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-30-10
                                                                • 10828

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                                Ttrace dont argue with sammy, he forgets to take his red pill and all hell breaks loose.
                                                                Now I know
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                                                                • BettingWizard
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-28-09
                                                                  • 6522

                                                                  #33
                                                                  somebody else at the table doesnt affect YOUR odds of winning. People just remember when the idiots cost you a hand, but never when they help you win
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                                                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 13024

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ttrace35
                                                                    I disagree. Picture being in the pit, 100 a hand. Then some hamburger is in there and can't make his mind up. Sometimes he hits on 16. Sometimes he doesn't. Will drive you fukkin nuts and you will run from the table.
                                                                    Trace, I make a living in the gaming industry and your whole theory is based off emotion, not raw data. In the long run it all evens out.
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                                                                    • jrmartin.mig
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-29-10
                                                                      • 624

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I remember lots of times when the idiot at the table took the bust card and I lost. Just as many times the idiot at the end shouldn't have hit, took a little one and the dealer busted. Makes no difference either way.
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