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  • samgurt
    SBR MVP
    • 05-31-10
    • 2980

    #1
    Marlins will not be as good as people think
    Josh Johnson is a beast, I'll give em that...

    Sanchez and Nolasco have their moments on the mound, but are mediocre pitchers

    They all say "This is Hanley's team." He is a horrible leader.

    Reyes will be overrated, and definitely not have a season like last year

    Buehrle can eat up innings but he gives up a load of runs

    Zambrano blows roosters.

    Weak bullpen except for Bell

    Their staff is too weak to be a really good team and I don't think their offense will be good enough to make up for the pitching
  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #2
    agreed
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    • KingJD31
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-04-11
      • 8167

      #3
      you can't deny that lineup is ridic. reyes, hanley, stanton, sanchez,infante
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      • samgurt
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        • 05-31-10
        • 2980

        #4
        Originally posted by KingJD31
        you can't deny that lineup is ridic. reyes, hanley, stanton, sanchez,infante
        yes, the lineup is nice. But this team will be like the Twins 2 or 3 years ago (I'm just comparing them to the twins cuz I follow them closer than any other team)

        Twins with Span when he was batting over .300, Orlando Hudson, Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer, Kubel, Hardy, Delmon Young and Jim Thome....and they still couldn't do anything cuz their pitching sucks. Pitching is too important...look at the Giants. Their offense sucks year after year but they are good cuz their pitchers are good
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        • redsoxfreak91
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          • 10-17-11
          • 903

          #5
          check out that depth chart, they have a really good team this year, they have the best lineup in the NL and a solid closer, there staff is a little weak but if josh johnson comes back healthy they'll atleast have one ace too
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          • seaborneq
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-08-06
            • 22556

            #6
            I got them at +700 to win the division, I think its thethat fit the won't be good as everyone thinks profile better
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            • samgurt
              SBR MVP
              • 05-31-10
              • 2980

              #7
              check out that depth chart, they have a really good team this year, they have the best lineup in the NL and a solid closer, there staff is a little weak but if josh johnson comes back healthy they'll atleast have one ace too[/QUOTE]

              This is pretty much what I've been saying. but I still think they will be lucky to even make playoffs with the wildcard. Phillies will probably win the division even with Utley's knee probs. Depends if Howard comes back from his Achilles injury and I would take the Braves over the Marlins too
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              • ChalkyDog
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-02-11
                • 9598

                #8
                Originally posted by samgurt
                This is pretty much what I've been saying. but I still think they will be lucky to even make playoffs with the wildcard. Phillies will probably win the division and I would take the Braves over the Marlins too
                It's going to be a decent race, but I have a nice sized future on Braves u87.5 wins. My favorite, and most expensive future, outside of the Detroit WS +2000, which I placed for the purpose of hedging.

                Marlins could win that division as easy as the Phillies.
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                • Bcatswin
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                  • 12-21-10
                  • 13931

                  #9
                  Fish -1.5 tonight.
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                  • stevenash
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                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65700

                    #10
                    check out that depth chart, they have a really good team this year, they have the best lineup in the NL and a solid closer, there staff is a little weak but if josh johnson comes back healthy they'll atleast have one ace too[/QUOTE]

                    Agreed they have a very good team, however I think Texas and NYY have better lineups, but agreed on Marlin line up is solid.
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                    • KingJD31
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                      • 11-04-11
                      • 8167

                      #11
                      Originally posted by samgurt
                      yes, the lineup is nice. But this team will be like the Twins 2 or 3 years ago (I'm just comparing them to the twins cuz I follow them closer than any other team)
                      Twins with Span when he was batting over .300, Orlando Hudson, Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer, Kubel, Hardy, Delmon Young and Jim Thome....and they still couldn't do anything cuz their pitching sucks. Pitching is too important...look at the Giants. Their offense sucks year after year but they are good cuz their pitchers are good
                      Agree there bullpen also suks but Stanton might be the best hitter this year I'd find some prop on him and take over
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                      • konck
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                        • 10-17-06
                        • 12554

                        #12
                        Vegas didnt rate them so high to win the div only
                        Phils-160
                        Marlins +400
                        thats not ws or pennant thats div
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                        • Arena Nut
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                          • 08-24-08
                          • 110

                          #13
                          The question is who has the best offensive line up in the east? Marlins or Nationals?
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                          • xyzky
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-23-07
                            • 1577

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brock Landers
                            agreed
                            crap, please tell me you took the chalk tonight though...
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                            • KingJD31
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-04-11
                              • 8167

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Arena Nut
                              The question is who has the best offensive line up in the east? Marlins or Nationals?
                              Common the nats?they got pitching but damn the Mets got a better lineup
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                              • shawnjohn5
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-13-10
                                • 836

                                #16
                                Marlins should be an OVER machine, when Johnson isn't pitching!!!
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                                • mynameismud
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                                  • 02-13-12
                                  • 5461

                                  #17
                                  skip bayless and stephen a smith both picked the marlins to get to the world series.
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                                  • ChalkyDog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-02-11
                                    • 9598

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mynameismud
                                    skip bayless and stephen a smith both picked the marlins to get to the world series.
                                    Good lord, that is only missing a Lang futures sighting to be the trinity of moosh.

                                    I just hope they cover today. The rest of the season is a long ways away.
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                                    • Brock Landers
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 06-30-08
                                      • 45359

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by xyzky
                                      crap, please tell me you took the chalk tonight though...
                                      on the cards tonight
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                                      • neverstoppers23
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-26-09
                                        • 6302

                                        #20
                                        agree with that, i think they finish a little above .500 and miss the playoffs.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65700

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by shawnjohn5
                                          Marlins should be an OVER machine, when Johnson isn't pitching!!!
                                          They got some pitching, Buehrle is a mule, he'll give you 200 innings and 10+ wins, Anibal Sanchez has game, Zambrano is the 'x' factor, if he keeps his head on straight for 27 starts, he could produce.
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                                          • 5teamparlay
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-06-06
                                            • 989

                                            #22
                                            SO FAR RIGHT ON:




                                            National League East
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                                            • jose21_us
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-24-10
                                              • 3844

                                              #23
                                              Its a long ass season lets see if they are anywhere near last come July
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                                              • seaborneq
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                                                • 09-08-06
                                                • 22556

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                I got them at +700 to win the division, I think its the phillies that fit the won't be good as everyone thinks profile better
                                                Phillies better pick up the pace, or its anybody's division.
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                                                • PickWinnerAllDay
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                                                  • 08-31-11
                                                  • 12722

                                                  #25
                                                  [QUOTE=5teamparlay;14600672]SO FAR RIGHT ON:




                                                  National League East
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                                                  • 5teamparlay
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-06-06
                                                    • 989

                                                    #26
                                                    Horrible run lately:

                                                    Marlins are 1-7 in their last 8 overall
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      So far so good Sammy

                                                      Mets SS is better than Reyes making peanuts too
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                                                      • seaborneq
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                                                        • 09-08-06
                                                        • 22556

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                        I got them at +700 to win the division, I think its the phillies that fit the won't be good as everyone thinks profile better
                                                        Check the standing now. I feel good about the Marlins outlasting the fading Braves, the overachieving Nats, and the impossible Mets. Phillies might not recover if Halladay is down for the year.
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                                                        • samgurt
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-31-10
                                                          • 2980

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by seaborneq
                                                          Check the standing now. I feel good about the Marlins outlasting the fading Braves, the overachieving Nats, and the impossible Mets. Phillies might not recover if Halladay is down for the year.
                                                          Nats may get even better if Ryan Zimmerman ever steps it up
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                                                          • seaborneq
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-08-06
                                                            • 22556

                                                            #30
                                                            Innings count for strausberg and no closer could spell doom for the nats.
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                                                            • samgurt
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-31-10
                                                              • 2980

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by samgurt
                                                              Josh Johnson is a beast, I'll give em that...

                                                              Sanchez and Nolasco have their moments on the mound, but are mediocre pitchers

                                                              They all say "This is Hanley's team." He is a horrible leader.

                                                              Reyes will be overrated, and definitely not have a season like last year

                                                              Buehrle can eat up innings but he gives up a load of runs

                                                              Zambrano blows roosters.

                                                              Weak bullpen except for Bell

                                                              Their staff is too weak to be a really good team and I don't think their offense will be good enough to make up for the pitching

                                                              pretty much nailed it on the head except for Buehrle this year...though he could very easily end with an ERA around 4.25

                                                              Johnson is about to go on a heater
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                                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 19734

                                                                #32
                                                                except for buehrle? how bout bell pal?
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                                                                • samgurt
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-31-10
                                                                  • 2980

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                  except for buehrle? how bout bell pal?
                                                                  well...still got part of that sentence right...their pen blows. only guy I like in there is cishek. LeBlanc needs to be a starter for them
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                                                                  • lunchbawks
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-31-10
                                                                    • 12873

                                                                    #34
                                                                    fish thew in the towel. they're done, given up, smoked

                                                                    amazing that stanton/reyes/ramirez couldn't even hit a .500 record. gotta say im amazed at this miami team
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                                                                    • FrozenMAN
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-23-09
                                                                      • 4334

                                                                      #35
                                                                      team is awful...bell cost us 10 games and dunn another 6...right there we're in first in division and atleast 4 up in wild card...team is awful...hanley is a prick and was a cancer so it wasn't a big loss with him especially when he's done shit for 2 years now...reyes was overpaid as we all know and shows, bell was terrible and just sucks, big z was a good addition should have 4 more wins if not for bell, and worst signing was john buck last year...completely inept as a hitter but does call a decent game and can get decent amount of runners out stealing.
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