Ganchrow Now Works at Heritage

[wantitall4moi]

Wanty you should write a book on how to win gambling

I bet your methods back in 2003-2008 would not work now due to US Gambling Laws

i got out at just the right time. I always said that too. if I wanted to make claims I could say i "knew' when the right time to get out was and ejected. But that would be a lie. I stopped because I got married, it just happened to be good timing.

I am going into vegas for the first month of baseball and going to play there against my local and see how it works. Sort of test it these days. to se if it is still viable. I am only going to take 5 or maybe 10k and see if a guy can keep that money in action at all times without any problems. obviously on the local guys side there wont be any issues, but interested to see how books limit action after they see you a few times and figure out what youre doing.

[Winner_13]

granchrow once said he
got limited on nba on pinnacle

[Dark Horse]

Old news. This was reported here months ago.

And their new -108 with cash back, so it becomes the old -107 with enough money wagered, has Ganch math written all over it.

[durito]

dont listen to this guy, he is a lying two bit shill who lives in the most backward country on earth

he acts like he know everything, another barreled in bald loser

how much would you like to wager?

Old news. This was reported here months ago.

And their new -108 with cash back, so it becomes the old -107 with enough money wagered, has Ganch math written all over it.

[JohnnyC]

i got out at just the right time. I always said that too. if I wanted to make claims I could say i "knew' when the right time to get out was and ejected. But that would be a lie. I stopped because I got married, it just happened to be good timing.

I am going into vegas for the first month of baseball and going to play there against my local and see how it works. Sort of test it these days. to se if it is still viable. I am only going to take 5 or maybe 10k and see if a guy can keep that money in action at all times without any problems. obviously on the local guys side there wont be any issues, but interested to see how books limit action after they see you a few times and figure out what youre doing.

[rm18]

They just added a drop down menu for points and no normal buying now you can sell though


#1) Sport : NCAA Basketball
Selection : West Virginia 2/28/2012 4:00PM - (PST) Spread -16 +137 for Game
Buy Points for Selection :

[Keith Richard]

They just added a drop down menu for points and no normal buying now you can sell though


#1) Sport : NCAA Basketball
Selection : West Virginia 2/28/2012 4:00PM - (PST) Spread -16 +137 for Game
Buy Points for Selection :

Nice to see they are trying to improve their offerings.

[baskets]

how can you be a professional and not hit at 50%. I saw somewhere a guy say he's a pro but he cannot hit 50%

how is that done? I would like to know because I hit at 42%

[Shark79]

Ganch is top notch, great guy to hang out with.

The wife is also a great person to hang out with.

[baskets]

Ganch is top notch, great guy to hang out with. The wife is also a great person to hang out with.

ha ha. read incorrectly that would be a funny ass statement... though I understand what you're saying

[subs]

How bright to you have to be to work there anyways? How hard is it to copy lines, put them late, move off Pinny and kick out anyone plus money?

[byronbb]

You people are failing to realize how much edge you can get booking action if you are a sharp...........

[Sam Odom]

You people are failing to realize how much edge you can get booking action if you are a sharp...........

generally speaking every bet is +110 or better

[ACoochy]

generally speaking every bet is +110 or better

Correct. Y bother otherwise?? Simply making it too difficult for yourself at -110...

[wantitall4moi]

You people are failing to realize how much edge you can get booking action if you are a sharp...........

"smart" bettors who have enough outs and enough bankroll can easily out perform a books expectations.

Books are ecstatic to hold anything over 6%, a guy with resources, ability to get good limits and a little leg work should be getting 8.5-9%. I got as high as 10 something one year and averaged over 8. That is per everything I put through the windows in action. Thats why it is all about volume. If you can get the best of it and throw 5 million through the windows in action, which was very easy to do at the height of it, youre talking a very good income with little to no risk.

You can 'gamble' a little bit and shoot for 12-15 but that requires some risks, but still not large enough to have a risk of ruin if you have the outs and the limits.

Thats why I laugh at people who discount what is the smartest way to bet sports (be the book) and have all the control and able to completely balance off your action if you want to. The only limit to a player is maximizing those biggest advantages. While you can still churn a lot of volume even today it isnt always on really positive numbers. But the ability to get 50-60K down on a game that moves 25 cents just isnt going to be there these days like it used to be. Thats 4500 free money for guys who cant do math. You do that day in and day out for 190 days it adds up to a nice return. all basically risk free if you know how to add, subtract, and divide.

[baskets]

so did you clear 500k a year?

[TheLock]

youre seriously asking that?

I made enough money gambling to never have to work again. I basically quit altogether in 08 when I got married. Started fooling around again a little bit last year. Mostly out of boredom.

Thats why I laugh so hard when people say theyre 'professional' or 'sharp' then find out theyre punching a clock to survive.

I started out with a decent bankroll fresh out of prison and never really looked back. I built it up over the years to where it was when I stopped. It was quite a chunk. Like I said, enough so I wont have to work again and can pretty much do what I want.

I was basically retired at 39. THAT'S what guys with actual brains and ability should be able to do via sports betting.

So you're smart enough to BURY sportsbooks but not smart enough to stay out of prison?

[teaserpleaser]

Was waiting for somebody to catch the part about being in prison.

[boondoggle]

youre seriously asking that?

I made enough money gambling to never have to work again. I basically quit altogether in 08 when I got married. Started fooling around again a little bit last year. Mostly out of boredom.

Thats why I laugh so hard when people say theyre 'professional' or 'sharp' then find out theyre punching a clock to survive.

I started out with a decent bankroll fresh out of prison and never really looked back. I built it up over the years to where it was when I stopped. It was quite a chunk. Like I said, enough so I wont have to work again and can pretty much do what I want.

I was basically retired at 39. THAT'S what guys with actual brains and ability should be able to do via sports betting.

SHARP guys do not go to prison. BOL.

[wantitall4moi]

so did you clear 500k a year?

not in the beginning, but at the end my bankroll had also outgrown my ability to maximize it, but when I cashed out I had a decent yearly average. As I have said more than enough to live on and work with at something less hands on.

Betting was my business therefore all the money I had was my bankroll. With the way things are now there isnt anyway to do what I did now in the U.S. Even with back channels and agent accounts it wouldnt be possible. I played at Pinnacle with a very large balance in several accounts for almost 2 years after they stopped taking bets from U.S. players. But it got nerve wracking.

Especially since it took Pinnacle a few weeks to pay off guys with large balances. Not that they probably didnt have the money but at the time you never knew. It took 10 days to get the money from my main account. So it wasnt like I didnt have a wait myself.

I was old school ALWAYS post up. no credit. Not that I couldnt get credit had it extended more than a few times, but I liked it the way I did it. I never made a bet in a book in Costa Rica, and never got stiffed. Got slow paid a lot of time but never lost any money due to no pay. Luck or smarts? Who knows. I also never took any roll over bonuses or any of that nonsense. If they wanted to give me something I just said give me free transfers and withdrawals and safe us all a headache and argument down the road.

But back then you still only needed 5 outs to get the best numbers 99% of the time. Luckily those 5 were all willing and able to pay and take action. Looking at the joke books now and comparing them to those places is mind boggling. Thats why I laugh at people touting these shit ass books and books that havent been around long enough to do anything. Talking about them like theyre gold.

Theyre good for one thing recreational guys who want to fool around and dont know or are too scared to use a local guy. When youre the only game in town it is usually for a reason. With these books what makes it worse is theyre a joke and they make their policies even worse.

But I guess a guy with a lot of patience and time could eeek out a better than average living doing it these days. But I would imagine there is a definite cap on what a guy could expect to make.

[wantitall4moi]

LMAO, considering all the shit I did, they convicted me on the one thing I didnt do but the only thing they could get me on. So yeah. I would say I even got out of that one on the positive side too.

This is all old news if people hadnt seen that tidbit before they werent paying attention.

But since there are so many rats and snitches and tattle tales on this board I would figure guys would just understand what jams guys up sometimes.

[sharpcat]

Never in my life have I seen someone work so hard to build himself up to be a big shot on the fukkin internet.



Wanty,

You were arbing out 25 cent line moves back in a time when the books were flooded with square players and fighting for their business, you openly admit that you can no longer make any money. Cut the fukkin nonsense anybody could have sat around watching DonBest for arbs in 2003.

If you were truly such a wiseguy big shot you wouldn't have to spend so much time bragging about yourself on the internet and you surely would not have had to highjack this thread.

You are pathetic!!

[jjgold]

Wanty you were never on one side to a game your whole life

[baskets]

truth or fiction?

[baskets]

I was reading about one player who said he was a professional and yet he couldn't even hit 50%.

There are so many words here I never know who to believe. But when a guy steps out and can't hit 50%, that's when I know he's a liar.

Always interesting to learn more. Please carry on everyone.

[TheLock]

I was reading about one player who said he was a professional and yet he couldn't even hit 50%.

There are so many words here I never know who to believe. But when a guy steps out and can't hit 50%, that's when I know he's a liar.

Always interesting to learn more. Please carry on everyone.

You can be a pro and hit 48%

Major.League.Baseball.

[blittydeuce]

This is old news..


Did you hear that CrazyLou changed his name to just Lou??

[baskets]

You can be a pro and hit 48% Major.League.Baseball.

what is your average price on your wagers?

[flyingillini]

This is old news..


Did you hear that CrazyLou changed his name to just Lou??

This is very old news, Ganchrow has been with Heritage, this is no news at all.. Maybe to the newbies of SBR that probably have no clue who he is in the first place. May Jesus Christ Bless Ganch and his statistics!

[Smoke]

This is very old news, Ganchrow has been with Heritage, this is no news at all.. Maybe to the newbies of SBR that probably have no clue who he is in the first place. May Jesus Christ Bless Ganch and his statistics!

God bless you illini!

Baruch HaShem my friend!

[TheLock]

May God spray his Keez release all over Ganch in order to bring him hugh good fortunes

[baskets]

I really am enjoying this Illini sense of humor.

Cheers!
Cheers. Cheers? Cheers!

[LT Profits]

The new search feature sucks, but I couldn't find a single post on SBR mentioning this in the past? Maybe it was "old news" via other forums?

[dynamite140]

whoa

[LT Profits]

Old news. This was reported here months ago.

And their new -108 with cash back, so it becomes the old -107 with enough money wagered, has Ganch math written all over it.

This is old news..


Did you hear that CrazyLou changed his name to just Lou??

Can either of you guys show me ONE post mentioning this in the past? I couldn't find one word of it here.