KenPom a must for college basketball?

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  • goldendome23
    Restricted User
    • 04-18-11
    • 621

    #1
    KenPom a must for college basketball?
    Just curious on people's opinions on the effectiveness of the site. I know its only 20 dollars not a big deal. Just curious how much people use it or rely on it.
  • Emily_Haines
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-09
    • 15917

    #2
    It's ok for totals.
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    • goldendome23
      Restricted User
      • 04-18-11
      • 621

      #3
      Never was big on betting totals in college basketball. Guess could look into it.
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      • HoulihansTX
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-12-09
        • 30566

        #4
        his pace of play ratings are invaluable
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        • goldendome23
          Restricted User
          • 04-18-11
          • 621

          #5
          yeah thats what i've heard. I'm just going to buy it and take a look into it
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          • Iwinyourmoney
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-18-07
            • 18368

            #6
            Best 20$ any gambler can spend
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            • kkirby99
              SBR Rookie
              • 11-15-11
              • 26

              #7
              It's worth a lot more.
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              • vyomguy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-08-09
                • 5794

                #8
                its useful in the first couple of months of the season. After that, throw kenpm away because books would have adjusted and soft lines will be gone.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  books use it
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                  • Emily_Haines
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-14-09
                    • 15917

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    books use it
                    Much harder to beat the bookmaker openers now
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      There are no edges

                      Sportsbooks have the same data
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                      • vyomguy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-08-09
                        • 5794

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        books use it
                        Books have their own statisticians and modelers. They don't need below-average kenpom.
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                        • Shaudius
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-21-10
                          • 1112

                          #13
                          Originally posted by vyomguy

                          Books have their own statisticians and modelers. They don't need below-average kenpom.
                          If that was the case then why when Kenpom first started doing his thing did his stats not reflect the lines(but modeled the real results much better), and then after a couple of seasons all of a sudden the lines started to match Kenpom almost exactly in 95% of cases.

                          Did the books just suddenly discover tempo-free statistics a couple years after Kenpom, or did their own statisticians and modelers just start basing their models on the research Kenpom had done.
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                          • Emily_Haines
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-14-09
                            • 15917

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vyomguy
                            Books have their own statisticians and modelers. They don't need below-average kenpom.
                            No they don't!

                            Most just have monkeys that copy lines
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