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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    So do UCLA backers watching this game...
    Feel LUCKY, or feel smart and believe they were on the right side?

    Just curious
  • ShamsWoof10
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-06
    • 4827

    #2
    FEEL...????

    AM SMART!!!

    THIS D has played fairly well....

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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #3
      I beat the closing #.

      I don't care what happens in the game (from a gambling perspective anyway, as a fan I'd prefer the PAC10 team to win)
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      • onthewhat
        Restricted User
        • 05-14-08
        • 15411

        #4
        ucla was not the right side, lol
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        • daggerkobe
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-25-08
          • 10744

          #5
          UCLA dominated this game. If it weren't for those 4 INTs, they'd be up big.
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          • frostno98
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-11-07
            • 9769

            #6
            Can't say I'm suprised, seen it happened to USC and Oregon who thought the game was going to be a breezier.
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            • purecarnagge
              SBR MVP
              • 10-05-07
              • 4843

              #7
              okay so 4 INTS...and a special teams touchdown and you think you were on the right side of the game...

              tennesee was the 10th on a 10 team parlay..it lost cuz tenn couldn win as a pickem. yes im pouting on my 5.00 parlay.
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              • VegasDave
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-03-07
                • 8056

                #8
                Originally posted by purecarnagge
                okay so 4 INTS...and a special teams touchdown and you think you were on the right side of the game...
                Crompton looked awful didn't he? I mean yeah UCLA's D was great but this guy missed BAD way too many times.
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                • purecarnagge
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-05-07
                  • 4843

                  #9
                  he didn't throw 4 INTs... part of the problem was they needed to get him out of the pocket or throwing quicker passes because ucla was bringing 6-7 guys almost every play it seemed like...most of it up the middle... no roll outs, no jailbreak screens no quick passing...

                  I mean if you take a special teams TD and a fumble by a top notch rb out of this game theis game is 14pt to 17 pt win by tenn... you can't really cap that stuff but it happens...gotta roll with it...sometime it kills you sometimes it carries you
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                  • bmw530i
                    Restricted User
                    • 04-19-08
                    • 4058

                    #10
                    This is the first game in a while, i feel dirty and ripped off....Tenn...just owned them....if they dont fumble and go up 21-7...ucla can't recover...I feel like I fell into a corner....
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                    • VegasDave
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-03-07
                      • 8056

                      #11
                      I agree with you... If they'd have punched it in from the 6 and gone up 21 - 7...

                      But oh well.
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                      • daggerkobe
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-25-08
                        • 10744

                        #12
                        Take away all the fumbles, INTs & pick 6s and UCLA still wins.

                        UCLA's defense and QB just stepped up when they needed to.
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                        • donjuan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-29-07
                          • 3993

                          #13
                          ucla was not the right side, lol
                          At what number? Blanket statements like that are retarded.
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                          • VegasDave
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-03-07
                            • 8056

                            #14
                            Love the responses from you guys saying you got the right number...

                            Taking the emotion out of the game is the only way to win.
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                            • purecarnagge
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-05-07
                              • 4843

                              #15
                              Originally posted by usckingsfan31
                              Love the responses from you guys saying you got the right number...

                              Taking the emotion out of the game is the only way to win.
                              Take the emotion out of the game is not the only way to win. If there was no emotion I wouldn't bet.
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                              • ShamsWoof10
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-15-06
                                • 4827

                                #16
                                Originally posted by usckingsfan31
                                Love the responses from you guys saying you got the right number...

                                Taking the emotion out of the game is the only way to win.
                                Yeah I hear ya'... The number matters but not that often... The right side is the cake the right number is the frosting... but some people think it's not about picking winners... Maybe they "line shopped" and got the Volvs at +4 ....

                                Volvs backers lost no matter how much they "line shopped" on BOTH the Side and ML....

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                                • durito
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-03-06
                                  • 13173

                                  #17
                                  the right number is the only thing that matters
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                                  • Steeltown
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 384

                                    #18
                                    The only question you should be asking is why did Fulmer and Tennesse go into prevent with 8 minutes left when UCLA couldnt do shit all game? Why change what was working? Two td's in last 8 min . Explain that! Explain why refs didnt call the obvuious illegal entire line down field on the screen play? Explain why Fulmer played for 3 after holding UCLA to 3?
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                                    • donjuan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-29-07
                                      • 3993

                                      #19
                                      No, the right number is all that matters. If you gave me Tennessee PK +100, that would be the right number. If you gave me UCLA +10.5, that would be the right number. Such a thing as right side does not exist without reference to price and number.
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                                      • Steeltown
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 384

                                        #20
                                        Dont ignore inside info kid! It only comes along once in a blue moon !
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                                        • ShamsWoof10
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-15-06
                                          • 4827

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by durito
                                          the right number is the only thing that matters
                                          Originally posted by donjuan
                                          No, the right number is all that matters. If you gave me Tennessee PK +100, that would be the right number. If you gave me UCLA +10.5, that would be the right number. Such a thing as right side does not exist without reference to price and number.
                                          This is not handicapping the teams this is handicapping the books...

                                          Originally posted by Steeltown
                                          Dont ignore inside info kid! It only comes along once in a blue moon !
                                          Good call "SHARON"!!!
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                                          • donjuan
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-29-07
                                            • 3993

                                            #22
                                            This is not handicapping the teams this is handicapping the books...
                                            Sick level.
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                                            • Steeltown
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 07-22-08
                                              • 384

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                              This is not handicapping the teams this is handicapping the books...



                                              Good call "SHARON"!!!
                                              Not a problem Shlomo!
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                                              • ShamsWoof10
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-15-06
                                                • 4827

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                Sick level.
                                                What is sick is if you would have taken TN. PK +100 you STILL would have lost... You likely would have bet the house on it too at that price and lost that...

                                                If prices and numbers are the only thing then why know anything about the team..? How many returners do they got coming back..? WHO CARES I GOT THE BETTER NUMBER AND PRICE.... oh okkkkkk....

                                                If you bet the better number at CWag on MLB games they have been off by a wide margin you would have lost your d*ck this summer...

                                                Originally posted by Steeltown
                                                Not a problem Shlomo!

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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

                                                  If you bet the better number at CWag on MLB games they have been off by a wide margin you would have lost your d*ck this summer...




                                                  actually the people that have done this have cleaned up.
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                                                  • ShamsWoof10
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-15-06
                                                    • 4827

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by durito
                                                    actually the people that have done this have cleaned up.
                                                    MY AS* they have... They only cleaned up if they were scalping... If they just bet the CWag. side they lost their as*....
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                                                    • donjuan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-29-07
                                                      • 3993

                                                      #27
                                                      What is sick is if you would have taken TN. PK +100 you STILL would have lost... You likely would have bet the house on it too at that price and lost that...

                                                      If prices and numbers are the only thing then why know anything about the team..? How many returners do they got coming back..? WHO CARES I GOT THE BETTER NUMBER AND PRICE.... oh okkkkkk....

                                                      If you bet the better number at CWag on MLB games they have been off by a wide margin you would have lost your d*ck this summer...
                                                      Oh, you weren't being intentionally obtuse? You still obviously don't have a clue about sample sizes, probability distributions or pretty much anything to do with sports betting. I look for bets with +EV/+EG based on my model. As long as I beat the closing number, I'm happy with my bet and generally don't care what happens in the game. Thus, you'll never see me post about wanting to throw up, punching or throwing things or generally having a temper tantrum after I lose.
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                                                      • betplom
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-20-06
                                                        • 13444

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by donjuan
                                                        As long as I beat the closing number, I'm happy with my bet and generally don't care what happens in the game.
                                                        Sounds like a way of making yourself feel better after backing the wrong side.

                                                        I'll take winners over beating the closing number anyday.
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                                                        • VegasDave
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-03-07
                                                          • 8056

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                                          Take the emotion out of the game is not the only way to win. If there was no emotion I wouldn't bet.
                                                          I wouldn't either; I do it for the entertainment.

                                                          But it has to be all business to consistently win I think.
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                                                          • ShamsWoof10
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-15-06
                                                            • 4827

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by donjuan
                                                            Oh, you weren't being intentionally obtuse? You still obviously don't have a clue about sample sizes, probability distributions or pretty much anything to do with sports betting. I look for bets with +EV/+EG based on my model. As long as I beat the closing number, I'm happy with my bet and generally don't care what happens in the game. Thus, you'll never see me post about wanting to throw up, punching or throwing things or generally having a temper tantrum after I lose.
                                                            After your comment about halftime bets I don't take anything you say about sports betting seriously.... Halftime bets are some of the best value in wagering.... I guess you would not know that though since you think I am leaving money on the table but whatever....

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                                                            • donjuan
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-29-07
                                                              • 3993

                                                              #31
                                                              Sounds like a way of making yourself feel better after backing the wrong side.

                                                              I'll take winners over beating the closing number anyday.
                                                              Not at all. If you beat closing lines you WILL win long term.

                                                              After your comment about halftime bets I don't take anything you say about sports betting seriously.... Halftime bets are some of the best value in wagering.... I guess you would not know that though since you think I am leaving money on the table but whatever....
                                                              Yes, your rebuttal ripped me a new one. In case you forgot, you cut your losses and didn't respond: http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappi...-96568-p2.html
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                                                              • betplom
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-20-06
                                                                • 13444

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                Not at all. If you beat closing lines you WILL win long term.

                                                                Even if you hit at 30% ?
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                                                                • durito
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                                  • 13173

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                                                  MY AS* they have... They only cleaned up if they were scalping... If they just bet the CWag. side they lost their as*....
                                                                  No one cleaned up doing anything with $100 limits.

                                                                  I don't have the data to confirm this as scraping credit wagering lines isn't really on my to do list.

                                                                  Nevertheless, LT Profits says he's won picking off their off market lines. This is not remotely difficult to believe as doing this does will always win over a sufficient sample size.

                                                                  And when given the choice between believing LT and someone who still thinks Ganchrow and Tacomax are the same person even after 50 people met both of them last weekend, I'm gonna have to trust LT here.

                                                                  But hey maybe I misunderstood and he lost. I mean surely credit wagering is sharper than pinnacle. That must explain their $100 limits compared to $10,000.
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                                                                  • englishmike
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-19-08
                                                                    • 5279

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by durito
                                                                    And when given the choice between believing LT and someone who still think Ganchcrow and Tacomax are the same person even after 50 people met both of them last weekend, I'm gonna have to trust LT here.

                                                                    .
                                                                    Sharp post.
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                                                                    • durito
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                                      • 13173

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by betplom
                                                                      Even if you hit at 30% ?
                                                                      I don't follow.

                                                                      If you make bets at +250 and you always beat the closing line, you will clean up at 30%.

                                                                      It's really quite simple, and the data backs it up.

                                                                      Add just 1 pt to the closing line for the home team in NCAA basketball's score the last 15 years and they will cover 54% of the time (similar numbers for the away side). If you have competent risk management and can find games off by that 1pt, you will soon be rich.
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