What do you make of Bookmaker's Saints -3, -135?

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  • Capybara
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    • 08-17-08
    • 11803

    #1
    What do you make of Bookmaker's Saints -3, -135?
    All week they've just sat there at 3 with huge juice while every other book (or most) had long since gone to 3.5.

    What is this about and what do you think it tells us? I get nervous as a Saints leaner when I see this. Like they feel confident it's the Niners and they just want to rob everyone blind.
  • Jaug
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    • 01-11-09
    • 3087

    #2
    bookmaker has no weight. Pinny is the leader.
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
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      #3
      You worry too much capy

      Only people playing that line should be on sf
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      • Sportsbetting123
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        • 03-01-08
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        #4
        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
        You worry too much capy

        Only people playing that line should be on sf
        Exactly...juice is too high if going with the Saints.
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        • brewcrew2k
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          • 01-26-10
          • 1158

          #5
          They want more $ on San Fran.. Saints are the play
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          • BIGDAY
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            • 02-17-10
            • 48245

            #6
            Originally posted by brewcrew2k
            They want more $ on San Fran.. Saints are the play
            Exactly. I see them trying to lure more San Fran money. Why are you worried?
            Basically they are telling you if you're going to play the saints, they ain't going to pay you Sh!t.
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            • milwaukee mike
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              • 08-22-07
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              #7
              with a line like that bigday they're not trying to lure saints money they're trying to lure san fran money +3 +115

              big money isn't going to lay -135 when they could buy the half point elsewhere and go -3 -125
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              • benjy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-19-09
                • 2158

                #8
                SportsInsights has 64% on the Saints. SBRodds (5Dimes bets, I think) has action more evenly split: overall a bit more on the Saints w/ a slight majority of today's action going on the 49ers.

                Not knowing Bookmaker I'd assume their action is similar to what SInsights suggests and guess that they could get more even action if they moved it to 3.5 but they're happy to grab those Saints bets. IMO looks like they think SF is going to come through, FWIW.
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                • brewcrew2k
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                  • 01-26-10
                  • 1158

                  #9
                  Most shops are -4 -105 for the saints. So IMO they want you to take -3 with juice even though you don't need it.
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                  • BIGDAY
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 02-17-10
                    • 48245

                    #10
                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                    with a line like that bigday they're not trying to lure saints money they're trying to lure san fran money +3 +115

                    big money isn't going to lay -135 when they could buy the half point elsewhere and go -3 -125

                    I'm sorry. That's what I ment. They want more on SF. I typoed up there.

                    Regardless I'm on saints
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                    • k13
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                      • 07-16-10
                      • 18104

                      #11
                      Originally posted by brewcrew2k
                      Most shops are -4 -105 for the saints. So IMO they want you to take -3 with juice even though you don't need it.
                      5dimes, no
                      thegreek, no
                      Pinnacle, no
                      Bookmaker, no

                      I could go on but "most" shops are not -4 or even close.
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                      • BIGDAY
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                        • 02-17-10
                        • 48245

                        #12
                        Originally posted by benjy
                        SportsInsights has 64% on the Saints. SBRodds (5Dimes bets, I think) has action more evenly split: overall a bit more on the Saints w/ a slight majority of today's action going on the 49ers.

                        Not knowing Bookmaker I'd assume their action is similar to what SInsights suggests and guess that they could get more even action if they moved it to 3.5 but they're happy to grab those Saints bets. IMO looks like they think SF is going to come through, FWIW.

                        Correct. This line should attract SF. Why in the fukk would someone want to pay that juice for -3??? Or am I just seeing something completely different? I would hate to pay -135 for a wager.
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                        • Capybara
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                          • 08-17-08
                          • 11803

                          #13
                          Originally posted by benjy
                          SportsInsights has 64% on the Saints. SBRodds (5Dimes bets, I think) has action more evenly split: overall a bit more on the Saints w/ a slight majority of today's action going on the 49ers.

                          Not knowing Bookmaker I'd assume their action is similar to what SInsights suggests and guess that they could get more even action if they moved it to 3.5 but they're happy to grab those Saints bets. IMO looks like they think SF is going to come through, FWIW.
                          Yes, this is what I'm saying... they want the Saints players who like the more attractive line and don't mind the huge juice... they obviously believe it's gonna be San Fran and then they just made a bundle.

                          In any event, that's where my money is right now, and there's no option to add the hook (except for crazy alt lines). But I still haven't finalized my play(s) anyway. If I do end up confirming Saints, I'd rather have paid a regular juice and given the 3.5.
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                          • k13
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                            • 07-16-10
                            • 18104

                            #14
                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                            with a line like that bigday they're not trying to lure saints money they're trying to lure san fran money +3 +115

                            big money isn't going to lay -135 when they could buy the half point elsewhere and go -3 -125

                            Bookmaker is -3 -130
                            Pinnacle is -3 -124
                            5dimes is -3 -130

                            Booksmaker always leans like this on the square popular play. The line is the same at other places they just choose to show -3.5 (+105) instead.
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                            • k13
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-16-10
                              • 18104

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BIGDAY
                              Correct. This line should attract SF. Why in the fukk would someone want to pay that juice for -3??? Or am I just seeing something completely different? I would hate to pay -135 for a wager.
                              Good luck finding a -3 -105

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                              • BIGDAY
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                                • 02-17-10
                                • 48245

                                #16
                                You guys don't get it. That's not an attractive line. At least for big money. They will end up middle themselves with this line. And it's great for the book because when Saints cover they don't have to pay squat.

                                Can anyone see this?
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                                • BIGDAY
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                                  • 02-17-10
                                  • 48245

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by k13
                                  Good luck finding a -3 -105

                                  My point is to take it at -3.5 you idiot.
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                                  • k13
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-16-10
                                    • 18104

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                    My point is to take it at -3.5 you idiot.
                                    is -3.5 (+108) not begging for Saints money now?
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                                    • BIGDAY
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                                      • 02-17-10
                                      • 48245

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by k13
                                      is -3.5 (+108) not begging for Saints money now?
                                      I know, dug myself into a nice little hole huh? Most of the public will pay that crazy juice. . And If saints cover, books imo will love the fact they took -135 for that cover.

                                      GL
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                                      • BIGDAY
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                                        • 02-17-10
                                        • 48245

                                        #20
                                        Man it's too early in the day to argue.

                                        I just put bailys in my coffee to settle me down. Going to be a long day/night!

                                        I gotta long day ending in a UFC event!
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                                        • Capybara
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                                          • 08-17-08
                                          • 11803

                                          #21
                                          Fukk, this thread has confused me more than ever. Think I'm gonna go back to analyzing the fukkin game and not try and get in the heads of all the supposed sharps behind the line-setting at these books! Fukk those a-holes anyway, I am going to continue capping this shit and accurately predict the outcome of this game and take their fukkin' money!!! Who's with me??
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                                          • BIGDAY
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                                            • 02-17-10
                                            • 48245

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Capybara
                                            Fukk, this thread has confused me more than ever. Think I'm gonna go back to analyzing the fukkin game and not try and get in the heads of all the supposed sharps behind the line-setting at these books! Fukk those a-holes anyway, I am going to continue capping this shit and accurately predict the outcome of this game and take their fukkin' money!!! Who's with me??
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                                            • milwaukee mike
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                                              • 08-22-07
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                                              #23
                                              i'm with you capy

                                              my guess though is that bookmaker wants more 49ers action at +3 +115. they probably have a bunch of public schmucks happy to take the -3 -135 and some big sharps on the other side taking 49ers +3 +115.

                                              no big player is taking the saints at -3 -135 when they could buy it to -3 -125 or -130 somewhere else. to joe public an extra 05 doesn't matter much but to a sharp/shark/whale/scalper/bonus whore/etc it's everything
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                                              • milwaukee mike
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                                                • 08-22-07
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                                                #24
                                                bigday i'm in for a long day too

                                                son's basketball game, then straight to the marquette/pitt game, then back home for nfl playoffs/ufc/etc
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                                                • ksnooksk
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                                                  • 11-18-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Two ways to interpret this But I see it as the majority being on the Saints and therefore they are trying to rape people with the juice. They are trying to balance the big money that is on the 49ers by bleeding the public.
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                                                  • BIGDAY
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                                                    • 02-17-10
                                                    • 48245

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                    bigday i'm in for a long day too

                                                    son's basketball game, then straight to the marquette/pitt game, then back home for nfl playoffs/ufc/etc
                                                    It's a thing of beauty.
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                                                    • Capybara
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                                                      • 08-17-08
                                                      • 11803

                                                      #27
                                                      Mike, I just want to get inside your avatar pic and spend all day in the sack with Avril Lavigne. We don't even need the playoff games on, I'd miss 'em all in a heartbeat for that. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd empty my Bookmaker account for that. Young women = my Achilles heel.
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
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                                                        • 08-22-07
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Capybara
                                                        Mike, I just want to get inside your avatar pic and spend all day in the sack with Avril Lavigne. We don't even need the playoff games on, I'd miss 'em all in a heartbeat for that. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd empty my Bookmaker account for that. Young women = my Achilles heel.
                                                        that makes 2 of us capy (you sick bastard)
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                                                        • WvGambler
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                                                          • 04-19-10
                                                          • 11618

                                                          #29
                                                          That line is certainly not trying to attract saints money. Op is thinking too much.

                                                          Saints are the play....just not at that book.
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                                                          • k13
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                                                            • 07-16-10
                                                            • 18104

                                                            #30
                                                            -3 -120, what do you think now?
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                                                            • jstblaze
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 03-05-07
                                                              • 767

                                                              #31
                                                              If the line was -3.5 -110 then most books would take it to -130 to buy that half point anyway.
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                                                              • Pauulzcappin
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                                                                • 04-23-10
                                                                • 20295

                                                                #32
                                                                -3 -121 at pinny when buying half point. still think they want big money on sf?
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                                                                • thebestthereis
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                                                                  • 03-01-09
                                                                  • 11459

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I would be more worried about Alex Smith if you place money on the 49ers, not a spread.
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                                                                  • shocktopme
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                                                                    • 10-15-10
                                                                    • 940

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    Fukk it Capers......Ya either like 9ers +3.5 or Saints - 3.5!!!!!!!!OR you dont play it at all....I'm gonna toss a lil $ on 9ers m/l and hope for good outcome!!!!
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                                                                    • t-wizzle
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                                                                      • 12-18-09
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Bookmaker has the highest or one of the highest limits right?
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