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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40184

    #1
    You're a 22 year old grad investing in the S&P 500 in spring of 1999...............
    Now that you're 35, you have seen this investment go from ...........

    1307.32 to the current levels of 1276.44



    NOW WHAT?
  • ApricotSinner32
    Restricted User
    • 11-28-10
    • 10648

    #2
    Stock Market is more -ev than sportsbetting for most people.
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    • Darkside Magick
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-28-10
      • 12638

      #3
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40184

        #4
        Originally posted by Fishhead
        Now that you're 35, you have seen this investment go from ...........

        1307.32 to the current levels of 1276.44



        NOW WHAT?


        If you get back to even, BAIL................and feel lucky.

        All in all, it could have been a lot worse and you can look back on it as one of life's learning experiences.

        Always keep your guard up for people wanting your hard earned money, be it stockbrokers, touts, mechanics, used car salesman, etc., etc., etc.,
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        • lemart5
          SBR MVP
          • 01-12-11
          • 2818

          #5
          FH now put up how much he would have made if he invested $10000 in Intel and reinvested ever penny of dividend money ?
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          • Darkside Magick
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-28-10
            • 12638

            #6
            yo fish ..is that just a initial investment with no weekly/monthly contribution or just a one time investment?
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            • ApricotSinner32
              Restricted User
              • 11-28-10
              • 10648

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Now what???

              Its in and out only

              Long term forget it
              JJgold is plus even in the stock market.This is long term boys i'm plus even.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388208

                #8
                Now what???

                Its in and out only

                Long term forget it
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                • ApricotSinner32
                  Restricted User
                  • 11-28-10
                  • 10648

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Now what???

                  Its in and out only

                  Long term forget it
                  JJgold is plus even in the stock market.This is long term boys i'm plus even.
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                  • KingJD31
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-04-11
                    • 8167

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Now what???

                    Its in and out only

                    Long term forget it
                    short term way to go quick money
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                    • kmarinouofm
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 8437

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lemart5
                      FH now put up how much he would have made if he invested $10000 in Intel and reinvested ever penny of dividend money ?
                      Lemart is this you?


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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #12
                        At least the dollar's worth more now than in '99.

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                        • blackbeSSt
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-06-08
                          • 9398

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                          Lemart is this you?
                          if i had to guess, this would be little lemmy

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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40184

                            #14
                            Originally posted by No coincidences
                            At least the dollar's worth more now than in '99.


                            If one would have bought 100 cans of CHEF-BOY-R-DEE in the spring of 1999, they would be better off than investing in the S&P

                            The same will hold true over the next 10-14 years.
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                            • kmarinouofm
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 8437

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fishhead


                              If one would have bought 100 cans of CHEF-BOY-R-DEE in the spring of 1999, they would be better off than investing in the S&P

                              The same will hold true over the next 10-14 years.
                              beefaroni or ravioli?
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40184

                                #16
                                Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                beefaroni or ravioli?

                                Both, along with a host of others...................
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  90% Silver U.S. Coin Bags Price Charts





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                                  • Brock Landers
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 45367

                                    #18
                                    a lost decade +
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                                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-29-08
                                      • 9285

                                      #19
                                      Obviously you have no clue how compound interest works on a continuous investment. Secondly are you assuming a 1 time investment or a continuous investment. On a last note losing less than 1% of your bankroll( portfolio), over 13 years is 1000000000% better than what the avg sports bettor will lose.
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                                      • milwaukee mike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-22-07
                                        • 27271

                                        #20
                                        fishhead i think you are ignoring dividends which on the s&p 500 would add about 20% over the past 13 years?

                                        then again if someone was managing the money or it was in a mutual fund, the fees over the past 13 years would probably eat up that 20%...
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                                        • wrongturn
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-06-06
                                          • 2228

                                          #21
                                          Fish, your arguments have two pitfalls. First, you conveniently pick the highest point in recent history, excluding the big run up during the 90's. Second, you forgot to mention 2% dividend, and that should count at least +20% not showing in the index. But nobody can predict how market performs in the next 10 years. My guess the chance going up is much bigger than down. Don't forget inflation, that is going to be reflected in the price.
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                                          • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-29-08
                                            • 9285

                                            #22
                                            On a side note if you expect to throw 1 lump sum into a single index fund and make anything more than 3% a year you were smoking crack so im not sure what your angle was here. Your not going to get rich investing in the S & P even in a booming economy.
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                                            • Sdotbold
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-24-09
                                              • 1444

                                              #23
                                              Look at all those cups!
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                                              • BigSpoon
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-04-10
                                                • 4113

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Now what???

                                                Its in and out only

                                                Long term forget it
                                                Are you talking about the stock market or your relationships with women coach?
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                                                • Fishhead
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                  • 40184

                                                  #25
                                                  Nobody should have a cent in the U.S. STOCK MARKET..........
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                                                  • Hotdiggity11
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-09-09
                                                    • 4916

                                                    #26
                                                    Go back to 2006 and cash it out.
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                                                    • Dutch
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-21-10
                                                      • 4339

                                                      #27
                                                      Really? We're doing this thread again?
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                                                      • Dutchie
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 12-15-11
                                                        • 722

                                                        #28
                                                        gotta think LONG LONG LONG term as far as the stock market goes for the average person. Buy and hold for 40-50 years. Leave the more risky stuff to more learned folk
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                                                        • big0mar
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-09-09
                                                          • 3374

                                                          #29
                                                          What about if you invested in 2008???
                                                          [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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                                                          • gregm
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-14-11
                                                            • 3535

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                            If one would have bought 100 cans of CHEF-BOY-R-DEE in the spring of 1999, they would be better off than investing in the S&P

                                                            The same will hold true over the next 10-14 years.
                                                            That is an absurd statement about the future. You dont put out that the 1990s was the second best decade ever for S&P returns and people entered an overvalued market. Dow 36,000 may seem like a joke now but there is a reason that Paul Krugman labeled the last decade "The Big Zero". Zero stock gain, Zero job gain, Zero gains for homeowners, but whats amazing about the american stock market over the times of records is that through 18 decades, 16 of them were profitable, with returns averaging 10% per year during those 156 years.

                                                            Even when you include the two losing decades, the average annual return is still 8.82%. and people still expect that 7-8 percent range and it seems to be the consensus for 2012.

                                                            Somebody should bump all those stupid doomsday threads about the stock market in here. Its ridiculous how weak minded people are about the stock market and scared people get. So many gamblers are such weak minded people when it comes to the future, doomsday stock threads seems to start every week

                                                            There is a great study of people who hypothetically invested after bear markets and after bull markets, http://moneyland.time.com/2011/12/02...our-portfolio/,
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                                                            • jarvol
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-13-10
                                                              • 6074

                                                              #31
                                                              SBRJohn still likes his $10 BAC calls I'm sure....
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                                                              • a4u2fear
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-29-10
                                                                • 8147

                                                                #32
                                                                When the market goes down, you buy, when it goes up you sell. And I'm up plenty doing this.
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                                                                • wantitall4moi
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-17-10
                                                                  • 3063

                                                                  #33
                                                                  LOL I started gambling a year before that. But I cashed out in 08. I out performed everything but guys who scammed people with Internet properties. Anyone who has a clue could have gotten probably 15-20 times their money out just betting generic numbers with little to no shopping. I got little over 30 times from betting alone, another nice windfall from a couple houses I bought (with gambling winnings) and then sold before the collapse. That was just more luck and timing rather than knowledge. I moved out of Vegas in 06 and sold that one right before it shit the bed. Sold my NB house right before I got married in 08, not at the peak but quite a bit more than I paid for it.

                                                                  Number one rule anyone should follow is invest in yourself.
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                                                                  • RonPaul2008
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-08-07
                                                                    • 6739

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                    If you get back to even, BAIL................and feel lucky.

                                                                    All in all, it could have been a lot worse and you can look back on it as one of life's learning experiences.

                                                                    Always keep your guard up for people wanting your hard earned money, be it stockbrokers, touts, mechanics, used car salesman, etc., etc., etc.,
                                                                    $1307.32 is not even close to even.... there has been a lot of inflation since 1999.
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                                                                    • CanuckG
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-23-10
                                                                      • 21978

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by wrongturn
                                                                      Fish, your arguments have two pitfalls. First, you conveniently pick the highest point in recent history, excluding the big run up during the 90's. Second, you forgot to mention 2% dividend, and that should count at least +20% not showing in the index. But nobody can predict how market performs in the next 10 years. My guess the chance going up is much bigger than down. Don't forget inflation, that is going to be reflected in the price.
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