Is anyone else getting fed up with rigged sports?

Ra77er · 12-26-11, 02:11 AM

Lurking

rm18 · 12-26-11, 02:17 AM

The Redskins did not get 5 downs, they get a first down on the first play but the cameras did not remove the yellow line. San Diego did have a forward pass and Pitt could of chose to decline the penalty but I think they could of accepeted too and were not given the option maybe not sure about this one exactly?

Masu485 · 12-26-11, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

lurkers pay attention. They resort to personal attacks instead of having a civil discussion which only shows who's opinion has real merit.

There is no way to have a civil discussion. This is why I do not talk about such things with people. Even if you had all the proof in the world, it would be for naught. I just accept it is rigged. Nothing will change, so it's useless to talk about.

Mikail · 12-26-11, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by rm18

The Redskins did not get 5 downs, they get a first down on the first play but the cameras did not remove the yellow line. San Diego did have a forward pass and Pitt could of chose to decline the penalty but I think they could of accepeted too and were not given the option maybe not sure about this one exactly?

I've watched the replay of the Chargers/Steelers game as well as remember that game and there is no forward pass. The referee even seemed confused as to why he had to call it this way. The reason it mattered so much is because the spread was at stake.

sideloaded · 12-26-11, 02:21 AM

not as rigged as the stock market

Mikail · 12-26-11, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Masu485

There is no way to have a civil discussion. This is why I do not talk about such things with people. Even if you had all the proof in the world, it would be for naught. I just accept it is rigged. Nothing will change, so it's useless to talk about.

Based on the responses in this thread it appears your right. No use talking about it. It just amuses me that whenever I bring it up at sbr people start verbally attacking me.

SportsMushroom · 12-26-11, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by Masu485

There is no way to have a civil discussion. This is why I do not talk about such things with people. Even if you had all the proof in the world, it would be for naught. I just accept it is rigged. Nothing will change, so it's useless to talk about.

I am not surprised you are so eager to back mikhail up

you two are very similar posters, whenever you are on a play that is losing you are in this forum complaining about a referee, a player, or the whole damn team, like its their job description to play for your bet to win

I will give you credit though, because you have admitted on sbr that you are a losing gambler, mikhail on the other hand talks a lot about how successful he is at sports betting yet he is 'fed up with rigged sports'. I know I know its because he is a fan

ShawNee922 · 12-26-11, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by mrmarket

i am trying to learn mikail it is difficult sometimes to spot the fixes they got me money how do you spot the rigged games to bet and win on????we can use this in our arsenal of weapons the books will never see it coming

I am sure certain games are 'fixed' ... I won't argue to the contrary but I am sure the main thing being 'fixed' is the line... It is even referred to as "the FIXED line" ... It couldn't be anymore blatant.

With that said.
There wouldn't be much point in 'fixing' a game that had even action would there?

Look for games where sportsbooks intentionally create lopsided action ...

Mikail · 12-26-11, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by SportsMushroom

mikhail on the other hand talks a lot about how successful he is at sports betting yet he is 'fed up with rigged sports'.

I actually tallied up my win/loss since I began wagering sports about 3 years ago. Just on sports I am + $3978 keep in mind I bet $100 units. Compared to most who are in the red, i'd say anything in the + would be considered successful. No? I don't wager to make money persay but more so for entertainment. Of course the goal is profit. Once again let me remind you that I wasn't talking about gambling here. Purely as a fan. I've loved sports since I was a child. Playing every organized league I could growing up. Watching as many games as I could possible. It's a lot to take in once you realize that the games are predetermined on many occasion rather than just being played out fairly without outside influence.

Mikail · 12-26-11, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

not as rigged as the stock market

Good point! In fact this is a good way of explaining how the markets are set in sports as well.

rm18 · 12-26-11, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

I've watched the replay of the Chargers/Steelers game as well as remember that game and there is no forward pass. The referee even seemed confused as to why he had to call it this way. The reason it mattered so much is because the spread was at stake.

Tomlinson releases the ball at the 25 yard line and Chambers catches it at the 26 it goes forward by at least 2 feet. Tomlinson is running forward when pitching it so by the time Chambers catches it he is at the 28 but the ball is out of his hand at the 25.

Mikail · 12-26-11, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by rm18

Tomlinson releases the ball at the 25 yard line and Chambers catches it at the 26 it goes forward by at least 2 feet. Tomlinson is running forward when pitching it so by the time Chambers catches it he is at the 28 but the ball is out of his hand at the 25.

He is clearly behind him from what I can see.

jjgold · 12-26-11, 08:08 AM

Once in a while of course there is some sort of foul play but rare

Maybe a point spread could be rigged from time to time but pure outcomes of games its extremely rare in any sport

ApricotSinner32 · 12-26-11, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Once in a while of course there is some sort of foul play but rare

Maybe a point spread could be rigged from time to time but pure outcomes of games its extremely rare in any sport

Extremely rare like how the colts have been losing on purpose to get andrew luck?Teams have be known to tank in professional sports for a long time in each to get a better draft pick. That's a partial form of a rigged game.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by ApricotSinner32

Extremely rare like how the colts have been losing on purpose to get andrew luck?Teams have be known to tank in professional sports for a long time in each to get a better draft pick. That's a partial form of a rigged game.

Uhh. They just won 2 in a row.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 08:34 AM

Just curious. What happens when one book in Vegas is heavy on one side and another book is heavy on the other? Who gets the fix?

Thanks in advance.

ApricotSinner32 · 12-26-11, 08:42 AM

Yes they won vs the texans because they were basically forced to by the refs calling borderline at best penalties. I assure you the general manager/owner of the colts was steamed up/punching mirrors in the bathroom after the game.

Nobody said every game is fixed. The point is that if you believe there isn't corruption amongst sports you're naive.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by ApricotSinner32

Yes they won vs the texans because they were basically forced to by the refs calling borderline at best penalties. I assure you the general manager/owner of the colts was steamed up/punching mirrors in the bathroom after the game.

Nobody said every game is fixed. The point is that if you believe there isn't corruption amongst sports you're naive.

So, the Colts were trying to rig it for Andrew Luck, but the refs rigged it the other way.

Is that how that works?

Interesting theory.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 08:48 AM

So which side did "Vegas need" in all of that mess?

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 08:51 AM

You're losing your marbles, Patty.

ApricotSinner32 · 12-26-11, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

So which side did "Vegas need" in all of that mess?

I'm sure the majority of sportsbooks needed colts +7 and colts ml because of people teasing the texans.

ApricotSinner32 · 12-26-11, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

You're losing your marbles, Patty.

And yes my methods of thinking when it comes to sports betting are not conventional. You can donate to the patty's lost his marbles fund on paypal. Cheerio

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 09:00 AM

If you're teasing -7, you're probably retarded.

Looks like pretty balanced action to me, Patty.

Opened at 6.5.

Closed at 6.5 at Cris and Oly. Closed at 7 -114 at Pinny.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by ApricotSinner32

And yes my methods of thinking when it comes to sports betting are not conventional. You can donate to the patty's lost his marbles fund on paypal. Cheerio

How's that working out for you so far? Obviously, quite good if you're asking for donations.

ApricotSinner32 · 12-26-11, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

How's that working out for you so far?

Ok confirmed trolling. Go get yourself some yayo and call it a day.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 09:08 AM

Me? Troll?

Never.

I just want to hear about rigged sporting events.

big0mar · 12-26-11, 09:30 AM

Somebody ban this guy

Makes SBR look bad

SlickRick1382 · 12-26-11, 09:32 AM

You guys are way to extreme. Outside of the Tim Donaghy fiasco in the NBA get some better footage of rigged games than that lousy video posted. If it's so abundant then why are there 4 crappy references, one of which is actually wrong (Redskins game). Should be a ton of footage for those that have been awakened to the truth to spot, no?

I'm certain there are games that are possible rigged (Western Illinois (NCAA) a few days ago comes to mind) but those games are few and far in between. Not sure why some of these other "calls" are unlikely to be human error. I didn't know refs weren't allowed to get any calls wrong. I'm sure you would do a worse job reffing some of these games.

P.S. NBA has star treatment when it comes to fouls. I wouldn't call that rigging a game.

Because LeBron walked and it wasn't called, that's not rigging a game. You guys need to get some fresh air on occasion.

poloyol · 12-26-11, 10:02 AM

I'm sure that there is some corruption in N.American pro sports,your crazy if u think otherwise....remember Tim Donaghy.

Big Bear · 12-26-11, 10:09 AM

I have a strong suspiciousin that the Lakers/Bulls and Knicks/Celtics games were rigged.

The NBA officials probably told them to make it a close game to make the fans more excited about the NBA.

MonkeyF0cker · 12-26-11, 10:14 AM

Let's keep 'em coming, boys!

I bet the NBA told the officials to make the Clippers blow out the Warriors too.

I'm catching on now.

jjgold · 12-26-11, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by SlickRick1382

You guys are way to extreme. Outside of the Tim Donaghy fiasco in the NBA get some better footage of rigged games than that lousy video posted. If it's so abundant then why are there 4 crappy references, one of which is actually wrong (Redskins game). Should be a ton of footage for those that have been awakened to the truth to spot, no?

I'm certain there are games that are possible rigged (Western Illinois (NCAA) a few days ago comes to mind) but those games are few and far in between. Not sure why some of these other "calls" are unlikely to be human error. I didn't know refs weren't allowed to get any calls wrong. I'm sure you would do a worse job reffing some of these games.

P.S. NBA has star treatment when it comes to fouls. I wouldn't call that rigging a game.

Because LeBron walked and it wasn't called, that's not rigging a game. You guys need to get some fresh air on occasion.

Glitch · 12-26-11, 10:22 AM

none of us know how much fixing happens, but many of us know it happens Sometimes.

that video was stupid mikail. it exaggerated a lot and got a lot of things wrong. mets give up 1 run instead of 3...rigged. ??

wantitall4moi · 12-26-11, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

I have a strong suspiciousin that the Lakers/Bulls and Knicks/Celtics games were rigged.

The NBA officials probably told them to make it a close game to make the fans more excited about the NBA.

Clippers was close too but Paul started to take over and since he held the ball himself for 3 straight possessions the refs were handcuffed. Had he passed it or done anyting 'too fancy' there would have been some phantom whistles in that game too I am sure.

But since Clips have been getting a lot of hype having them win in a blow out is a win for the NBA too.

I didt bet the NBA regular season even when I was betting as my only source of income. I stopped in about 2001 and havent made a bet since. Also if anyone think Donaghee was alone youre naive as hell..

Back in the day the names of the refs was like gold if you could get it before the game, and the names were like a secret service route, as in they never ever got released before tip. So bsicaly the only wat to get them was to have guys go to games and get the info out. That, back in the day was actually sellable information. because anyone who paid attention saw that a lot of refs had extreme results versus over and unders. I remember one guy was like 100% in over 30 games to the over. Many had only 3 or 4 games 'opposite' of what they 'normally' called. Obviously some were pretty even but some were as close to automatic as you could get.

Other games get fixed also, but I suspect most of them are opportunistic and if a ref has a chance he will do it, and most people know this. Officials cant completely control a game but in some they set a tone and a standard that carries forward. so they definitely have some influence.

But even yesterday in that Knicks games. clearly no foul one way and a few no calls the other way. Teams still have to make and miss shots but that is the beauty of basketball the scoring system is so automatic and easy to manipulate. an open field baske can be erased by a couple free shots without time coming off the clock, so officials have a lot more control there.

Either way you wont convince people of it either way if they dont believe it. Its like Bigfoot and UFOs and The Loch Ness Monster, you either believe it or you dont.

Big Bear · 12-26-11, 10:50 AM

yeah who knows??? but how did the Lakers screw that up on the inbound pass that seemed fishy

i didnt even bet and i dont have a favorite NBA team all im saying is if games are fixed in basketball it wouldnt surprise me especially since the NBA has a history of foul play