I don't understand how people lose 4 team 13 point teasers in the NFL.
Are Basic Strategy / "Wong" Teasers DEAD?
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WichitaStateFanSBR Sharp
- 11-11-11
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#36Comment -
BiGTonyHAHASBR High Roller
- 07-11-10
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#39imo lt profits is pretty much right target. teasers are best done with 0/Us that start in the 40s and you drop it down 4-6 pts then you ALWAYS take the underdog. there is always more value in the underdog. not only can they cover obviously but they can also win. college football for example i always play the underdog teased at about 4-6 pts when the favorite is a good running team. good running teams usually hold the ball when they have a lead to manage the clock. esp. if its top 25 in college football or basketball take the underdog with the pts. ive done 2 plays for college basketball the season at 5 pt teasers i had florida @ +15 w/ kansas @ +11.5. and kent state @ +13(who won su) w/ middle tennesee st @ +16)(who also won su against ucla) the sbr pros know whats what.Comment -
NSN21SBR Sharp
- 05-13-11
- 322
#40I like to try to use handicapping & line move anticipation with BS when teasing in the NFL. For example, I like Minnesota this week, so I teased the +1.5 to +7.5 before it was gone. Now it's sitting +1 in most spots. If you can correctly anticipate a line move coming before it happens, you can turn a non-BS teaser into a BS teaser by getting an extra 1/2 point or two.Comment -
BiGTonyHAHASBR High Roller
- 07-11-10
- 223
#41yea i agree with nsn21 here. getting that half point late in the season is imparative. as teams that might be playoff bound in pro sports play with extra intensityComment -
BiGTonyHAHASBR High Roller
- 07-11-10
- 223
#43IMO if the 0/U is in the mid 40s and you can teased the dog to double digits i would say that would be pretty strong playComment -
subsSBR MVP
- 04-30-10
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#46imo lt profits is pretty much right target. teasers are best done with 0/Us that start in the 40s and you drop it down 4-6 pts then you ALWAYS take the underdog. there is always more value in the underdog. not only can they cover obviously but they can also win. college football for example i always play the underdog teased at about 4-6 pts when the favorite is a good running team. good running teams usually hold the ball when they have a lead to manage the clock. esp. if its top 25 in college football or basketball take the underdog with the pts. ive done 2 plays for college basketball the season at 5 pt teasers i had florida @ +15 w/ kansas @ +11.5. and kent state @ +13(who won su) w/ middle tennesee st @ +16)(who also won su against ucla) the sbr pros know whats what.Comment -
Firefox14SBR Sharp
- 09-09-10
- 257
#47Can someone explain the fundamental difference between, say, teasing a 6 to 12 game, opposed to 2 to 8. Both cover the 3 and 7? I'm a little slow on the uptake. Aren't these both considered wongs?Comment -
FourLengthsClearSBR MVP
- 12-29-10
- 3808
#48
With such a teaser, you are essentially buying all of the half points as follows:
From 2.0 to 2.5
From 2.5 to 3.0
From 3.0 to 3.5
From 3.5 to 4.0
From 4.0 to 4.5
From 4.5 to 5.0
From 5.0 to 5.5
From 5.5 to 6.0
From 6.0 to 6.5
From 6.5 to 7.0
From 7.0 to 7.5
For obvious reasons the bolded half-points are the most valuable numbers in NFL betting and being able to cover all of them means that the total amount 'paid' is less, statistically, than the total value of the purchase as measured by push probabilities.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
- 90963
#492 to 8 (or 8 to 2) covers BOTH the 3 and the 7, which is the whole point. Covering only one of those two numbers (i.e., 6 to 12) is not a wong.Comment -
NSN21SBR Sharp
- 05-13-11
- 322
#506 to 12 is more widely known as a BTC teaser.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
- 90963
#53Gotcha.So I am sure you know that even Wong Teaser is a misnomer since he didn't really discover them, he just brought them into the mainstream in his book. Technically, Basic Strategy Teaser is the right term, but Wong Teaser is easier to type.
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NSN21SBR Sharp
- 05-13-11
- 322
#54Ha, yes, that is correct. Kind of ironic how he gets all the credit for discovering them when actually he just brought them to light for everyone to use.Comment -
jolmscheidRestricted User
- 02-20-10
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#56For NFL I think teasing the dogs is only smart with a lower total..Comment -
jolmscheidRestricted User
- 02-20-10
- 3256
#57Id be looking at the seahawks, ravens, and lions today...thoughtsComment -
jolmscheidRestricted User
- 02-20-10
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#59Ha ha...thanks baus ... any reason why?Comment -
BAUSSBR MVP
- 08-10-05
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#60Read above posts. Lions and Ravens are -7. Seahawks +3. None of those games meets the conditions described above.
BAUSComment -
Pancho sanzaSBR Sharp
- 10-18-07
- 386
#64Comment -
mathdotcomSBR Posting Legend
- 03-24-08
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#65I'll even give you that Ravens ML = Ravens -0.5 since the probability of a tie is so low.
Then Ravens ML = Ravens -0.5, which is of course better to have in a teaser than Ravens -1, even if (push/win) is graded as a push [of course you should not bet (push/win) = loss teasers]. So if you use the moneyline fair odds probability to find that a teaser is exactly 0 EV, then the teaser is in fact -EV because when it lands on -1 you get a push instead of a win.Comment -
Pancho sanzaSBR Sharp
- 10-18-07
- 386
#66I'll even give you that Ravens ML = Ravens -0.5 since the probability of a tie is so low.
Then Ravens ML = Ravens -0.5, which is of course better to have in a teaser than Ravens -1, even if (push/win) is graded as a push [of course you should not bet (push/win) = loss teasers]. So if you use the moneyline fair odds probability to find that a teaser is exactly 0 EV, then the teaser is in fact -EV because when it lands on -1 you get a push instead of a win.
The ml is -315
Use pinnys drop down to see how much going from 1 to pick costs.
Its a great leg to use in a teaser, period.Comment -
jolmscheidRestricted User
- 02-20-10
- 3256
#67So if one can get a -6.5 fav where the moneyline is GREATER THAN -241, then it is a +EV leg to tease that team 6 points then correct? Am I right when I say that?Comment -
Pancho sanzaSBR Sharp
- 10-18-07
- 386
#70
Its perfectly fine at times to use sides < -241Comment
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