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  • Rod Tidwell
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-04-11
    • 196

    #1
    I surrender, the fees have broken me...
    Even when I win, I still kinda lose.

    I won't bother mentioning the book, if anyone really wants to know just PM me.

    Thanks to the Patriots and Packers, I finally had a huge weekend. I turned roughly $600, into about 15k. This is huge for me, I already have plans for the money. A few mortgage payments, some in the kids college fund, etc, etc... all good stuff.

    So I call for a payout, here's what I'm facing. I can do five $3000 checks, they figure the last one will get to me in about 45 business days. Or I can do a wire, which is completely trackable by the Feds and the fee is $600!!! $600 for a f'cking wire.

    Is there a book left that actually pays you when you win? I really need a new hobby...
  • chachi
    SBR MVP
    • 02-16-07
    • 4571

    #2
    congratulations ... unfortunately that is the headache of being in the states atm

    unless you fear for the book's stability I'd go for the checks ... just think of it as an extra $65 each week over the ~2 months itll take going into your pocket instead of being bent over for requesting a wire transfer.

    4% for a wire is ridiculous though
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    • crjohnson32
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-16-10
      • 989

      #3
      So glad my government doesn't restrict my personal habits.

      I guess the Canadian government feel that if I have the freedom to choose what religion I want to subscribe to, and what academic field I choose to study in, why should it be their place choose what I do with my free time.

      It would be logical to assume that if my government were obsessed with my personal habits it would boarder on socialism.
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      • Emily_Haines
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-09
        • 15917

        #4
        You can thank your shitty government. Maybe next time all you idiots that go out and vote for the corporate sponsoring scum Democrat or Republican can make a better choice next time.
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        • big0mar
          SBR MVP
          • 01-09-09
          • 3374

          #5
          just take the wire
          [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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          • cjwatsonfan32
            SBR MVP
            • 01-24-11
            • 1640

            #6
            next time just lose. god are all sbr posters whiny bitches? i can maybe see why you complain when you lose but now you all complain when you win?
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            • crjohnson32
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-16-10
              • 989

              #7
              Originally posted by cjwatsonfan32
              next time just lose. god are all sbr posters whiny bitches? i can maybe see why you complain when you lose but now you all complain when you win?
              as long as you realize it's only that difficult to withdrawl in the U.S because of the restrictions your government puts on individual liberties you can complain all you want. Until your government starts to restrict free speech that is.
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              • mh217
                SBR MVP
                • 12-05-10
                • 2226

                #8
                take the wire, but if you are worried about it being traceable i distinctly remember its standard banking policy to monitor transactions 10 k and over..so i would suggest take a wire for 9k and 2 checks for 3 apiece..congrats on the win!
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                • frankzig
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-26-09
                  • 2268

                  #9
                  congrats on the good weekend
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                  • Cicima6709
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-12-10
                    • 1023

                    #10
                    sick weekend...enjoy it man
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                    • TheCentaur
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-28-11
                      • 8108

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mh217
                      take the wire, but if you are worried about it being traceable i distinctly remember its standard banking policy to monitor transactions 10 k and over..so i would suggest take a wire for 9k and 2 checks for 3 apiece..congrats on the win!
                      i've talked to some bank employees and it's more like 5k and over these days that draws attention from the bank if not the Gov.
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                      • mh217
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-05-10
                        • 2226

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheCentaur
                        i've talked to some bank employees and it's more like 5k and over these days that draws attention from the bank if not the Gov.
                        you're prob right these days..when i worked at a bank like 10 yrs ago the standard was 10 k.
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                        • BurtRapp
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-10-08
                          • 2410

                          #13
                          I have worked at banks for 10 years. It is over 10K is CTR report Currency Transaction report. That is for face to face transactions. Wires aren't looked at that hard for any amount unless it is from a country on the watch list and even then it isn't that scutinized.

                          5K is what is called a Monetary instrument log. That is when you bring cash into a bank and buy a cashiers check or travelers checks. A bank product with 5K or more cash. Anyone that is worried about Feds monitoring your account is so paranoid it's not even funny. TRUST ME!!!! You have nothing to worry about at all.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Wires cost $30

                            What fukkin scumbag book is over charging you??

                            They are scammers
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                            • mh217
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-05-10
                              • 2226

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BurtRapp
                              I have worked at banks for 10 years. It is over 10K is CTR report Currency Transaction report. That is for face to face transactions. Wires aren't looked at that hard for any amount unless it is from a country on the watch list and even then it isn't that scutinized. 5K is what is called a Monetary instrument log. That is when you bring cash into a bank and buy a cashiers check or travelers checks. A bank product with 5K or more cash. Anyone that is worried about Feds monitoring your account is so paranoid it's not even funny. TRUST ME!!!! You have nothing to worry about at all.
                              thats the way i remembered it!
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                              • P.F.Kasooff
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-13-10
                                • 1903

                                #16
                                Tell them you want a 10% bonus for NOT withdrawing
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Gov't can care less about a 15K wire, its pennies

                                  Maybe if it comes from an Arab Country they might glance at it
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                                  • P.F.Kasooff
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-13-10
                                    • 1903

                                    #18
                                    What if it comes from Iran ?
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                                    • BurtRapp
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-10-08
                                      • 2410

                                      #19
                                      There is a master list of countries on a watch list for banks. middle eastern and some south american countries. Wires are nothing. a 100K from a sportsbook would be nothing. Banks do not scrutinize these. I know everything there is to know about this subject.
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                                      • scott235
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 10-12-09
                                        • 465

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BurtRapp
                                        I have worked at banks for 10 years. It is over 10K is CTR report Currency Transaction report. That is for face to face transactions. Wires aren't looked at that hard for any amount unless it is from a country on the watch list and even then it isn't that scutinized.

                                        5K is what is called a Monetary instrument log. That is when you bring cash into a bank and buy a cashiers check or travelers checks. A bank product with 5K or more cash. Anyone that is worried about Feds monitoring your account is so paranoid it's not even funny. TRUST ME!!!! You have nothing to worry about at all.
                                        INDUSTRY SHILL ALERT!

                                        May I suggest that you all do your own homework on this subject. There are still a few posters(not many) whose job is NOT to maximize deposits for online books. Wires are aboslutely the easiest types of PO's to monitor and they are being watched very closely. Again, do your own research on this and start by googling "the patriot act".
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BurtRapp
                                          There is a master list of countries on a watch list for banks. middle eastern and some south american countries. Wires are nothing. a 100K from a sportsbook would be nothing. Banks do not scrutinize these. I know everything there is to know about this subject.
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                                          • BurtRapp
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-10-08
                                            • 2410

                                            #22
                                            scott all wires CAN be monitered of course. Emails phone calls fukkin conversations can be monitered as well doesn't mean they are. If you think that a wire from costa rica or europe or wherever a phukkin heritage is going to send you one from is being monitered by the gov't or feds. They don't care about yuour 7K wire. They don't care about 29K wires. It's not a blip on the radar. I KNOW TRUST ME.
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                                            • scott235
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-12-09
                                              • 465

                                              #23
                                              Tidwell,

                                              do your own research on this, and get it from sources that do not have an agenda...that is all that I am saying.
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                                              • chachi
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-16-07
                                                • 4571

                                                #24
                                                Burt - as you say the 'feds as a whole' don't give a shit about the amounts in question ...

                                                Unfortunately the handful the DOJ has set upon the gambling community like a pack of wild dogs, do indeed care
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                                                • scott235
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-12-09
                                                  • 465

                                                  #25
                                                  burt,

                                                  I actually agree with a lot of what you said. However, I don't scalp so I always have the option of using locals and staying under the radar. I assure you, many traditional bettors think that using chex or wires for gambling is insane. Count me as one.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Some people here afraid of their own shadow
                                                    No one cares about your gambling wire and they will not trace it
                                                    Your not getting locked up
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      The care about maybe 200K bank wires by people on a blacklist
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                                                      • TR88
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 9364

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Some people here afraid of their own shadow
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        No one cares about your gambling wire and they will not trace it
                                                        Your not getting locked up
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                                                        • stikymess
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-19-10
                                                          • 3288

                                                          #29
                                                          First, congrats, take a deep breath, just accept it as doing business, none of us like it but a few hundy to get a hold of 15k just the price of doing business.

                                                          I would take about 9k in a wire, listen to burt he knows what he is talking about. Stay away from checks you dont wont the headache of a bounced check to add to the issues.

                                                          maybe play with the rest, or take a check as well for the difference after the wire. Then start shopping for a different book.
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                                                          • BurtRapp
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-10-08
                                                            • 2410

                                                            #30
                                                            stiky very good advice. especially finding a different book. I don't know which one it is but sounds a lot like bookmaker.
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