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  • InTheDrink
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-23-09
    • 23983

    #36
    Originally posted by LT Profits

    An undefeated Boise would be ranked higher on the BCS Standings than Alabama. And like I have said several times, I agree that LSU and Bama are the two best teams in the country BUT there is no was a team that did not win its conference (Bama) should play for a national title.
    How do you know Boise would be ranked higher?
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    • tcpugh5
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-03-11
      • 106

      #37
      Originally posted by antifoil
      oregon scored like 20 something i think, and even west virginia scored around that much. a team that can't score against LSU doesn't not deserve another chance.
      Lsu also put 40+ on both those teams... Its not that LSU can't score or that Bama can't score.. they just cant score against each other.

      Offensive Juggernauts they are not..
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      • zsr
        SBR MVP
        • 06-01-10
        • 4117

        #38
        Originally posted by LT Profits

        An undefeated Boise would be ranked higher on the BCS Standings than Alabama. And like I have said several times, I agree that LSU and Bama are the two best teams in the country BUT there is no was a team that did not win its conference (Bama) should play for a national title.
        Nah herby just said Alabama will be higher tomorrow than Boise. Don't think it's fair though but nobody's opinion Here means anything
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        • zsr
          SBR MVP
          • 06-01-10
          • 4117

          #39
          Originally posted by InTheDrink

          How do you know Boise would be ranked higher?
          Not sure what he's talking about either..Boise should be ranked higher i think but if Alabama wins out there's no chance.
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #40
            Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
            Nah I dont think so......Computers will like Bama more, and I think a lot of poll guys will want the rematch (and rightfully so)......Its a damn joke if Boise gets in
            I disagree, I think Boise would be the MOST interesting matchup, definitely the most intriguing and probably the closest game (albeit LSU still wins by double-digits).
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #41
              Originally posted by InTheDrink
              How do you know Boise would be ranked higher?
              I said BCS Standings, which is all numbers. Human polls may have Bama higher, but that is not as important. Besides, one thing nobody has mentioned is what is the point of even having conferences if there is a rematch? This is not unlike pro sports where the two best teams in the league are in the same conference and only one could go to championship.
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              • Monte
                SBR MVP
                • 08-21-10
                • 2056

                #42
                Boise doesn't have to play a single top team, they should never get in.
                Sucks for them, but it'd be a joke.

                If Stanford beats the Ducks, there is no way they don't get in.
                I think Okst. loses 1 game.
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                • InTheDrink
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-23-09
                  • 23983

                  #43
                  Originally posted by LT Profits

                  I said BCS Standings, which is all numbers. Human polls may have Bama higher, but that is not as important. Besides, one thing nobody has mentioned is what is the point of even having conferences if there is a rematch? This is not unlike pro sports where the two best teams in the league are in the same conference and only one could go to championship.
                  It's happened in college basketball which is the best playoffs in all of sports so I'm okay with it happening in football too. It's not like it's an annual thing. Though I could see the rest of the country bitching about it and in fear that the sec will take over every year....which should happen anyway...
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                  • zsr
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-01-10
                    • 4117

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Monte
                    Boise doesn't have to play a single top team, they should never get in.
                    Sucks for them, but it'd be a joke.

                    If Stanford beats the Ducks, there is no way they don't get in.
                    I think Okst. loses 1 game.
                    If ok state beats ou and Stanford beats Oregon who gets in? That will be the question. Neither team is good enough to beat lsu though IMO.
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                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                      • 01-01-09
                      • 13253

                      #45
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      I said BCS Standings, which is all numbers. Human polls may have Bama higher, but that is not as important. Besides, one thing nobody has mentioned is what is the point of even having conferences if there is a rematch? This is not unlike pro sports where the two best teams in the league are in the same conference and only one could go to championship.
                      The whole BCS system is a fukkup anyway so I would prefer to see the 2 best teams in the country duke it out.....whether they are in the same conference or not

                      The computers are only 1/3 of the BCS, and many guys that make the polls have said that in a very close game, they would still rank the loser (Bama) to play in the BCS title game.....The polls count as a big piece of the BCS system pal

                      I don't think Boise gets in over Bama

                      It's either Stanford, OKST or Bama
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                      • caseyman011
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-01-11
                        • 583

                        #46
                        This isn't 1967. Fukk watching a 9-6 defensive snoozefest.
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                        • caseyman011
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-01-11
                          • 583

                          #47
                          Originally posted by zsr
                          If ok state beats ou and Stanford beats Oregon who gets in? That will be the question. Neither team is good enough to beat lsu though IMO.
                          OSU is far enough ahead of Stanford that OSU will get in. If they both win out, both teams' big remaining victories (OU/UO) will basically cancel each other out.
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                          • zsr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-01-10
                            • 4117

                            #48
                            Originally posted by caseyman011
                            This isn't 1967. Fukk watching a 9-6 defensive snoozefest.
                            I love these defensive games. So rare now in college because of the spread offense.
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                            • MoneyLineDawg
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-01-09
                              • 13253

                              #49
                              Originally posted by caseyman011
                              This isn't 1967. Fukk watching a 9-6 defensive snoozefest.
                              That was a great game to me.....I'm not one of those guys that likes only one or the other......any close game with 2 good teams in a defensive battle, normal scoring, or shootout can be exciting as hell to me
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                              • rake922
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-23-07
                                • 11692

                                #50
                                Bama fuckin choked . they start OT on the 25 and end up kicking the FG from the 35 yard line or so.... assholes choked at home
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                                • Romocide
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-14-11
                                  • 1404

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by zsr
                                  If ok state beats ou and Stanford beats Oregon who gets in? That will be the question. Neither team is good enough to beat lsu though IMO.
                                  If OSU wins out, 7 of their 11 wins would have been against teams that were ranked in the top 25 at some point this season. 3 of those teams having been ranked in the top 10. No question that OSU would deserve the bid over Stanford.
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                                  • caseyman011
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-01-11
                                    • 583

                                    #52
                                    My contention is that both teams basically came into the game thinking, 'this is gonna be a defensive struggle,' and they didn't do anything to try and buck that thought or do a change of pace. They were running vanilla offenses that played into the hands of the amazing defenses. There is no way that Alabama, at home, shouldn't have been able to put up more than 6 points in 4 quarters and a round of OT.
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                      The whole BCS system is a fukkup anyway so I would prefer to see the 2 best teams in the country duke it out.....whether they are in the same conference or not

                                      The computers are only 1/3 of the BCS, and many guys that make the polls have said that in a very close game, they would still rank the loser (Bama) to play in the BCS title game.....The polls count as a big piece of the BCS system pal

                                      I don't think Boise gets in over Bama

                                      It's either Stanford, OKST or Bama
                                      A couple of things. First, I actually think it will be LSU vs. Stanford because I think Cardinal win out and Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma. The case I was making for Boise is ONLY if they win out and other two lose a game, Which brings me to my next point: Even if final BCS Standings in that scenario have 1- LSU, 2 - Alabama, 3 - Boise, doesn't the BCS Committee still pick the matchups? And if I were on committee, I would not schedule a rematch.
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                                      • MoneyLineDawg
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-01-09
                                        • 13253

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                        A couple of things. First, I actually think it will be LSU vs. Stanford because I think Cardinal win out and Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma. The case I was making for Boise is ONLY if they win out and other two lose a game, Which brings me to my next point: Even if final BCS Standings in that scenario have 1- LSU, 2 - Alabama, 3 - Boise, doesn't the BCS Committee still pick the matchups? And if I were on committee, I would not schedule a rematch.
                                        No they don't pick it....the final bcs standings are what determines the matchup (which are made up of computer polls based off of schedule and things like that as well as the human polls)

                                        Boise state will not go ahead of Bama, mark my words

                                        And I think Oregon beats Stanford, but OKST beats Oklahoma and plays LSU
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                          No they don't pick it....the final bcs standings are what determines the matchup (which are made up of computer polls based off of schedule and things like that as well as the human polls)

                                          Boise state will not go ahead of Bama, mark my words

                                          And I think Oregon beats Stanford, but OKST beats Oklahoma and plays LSU
                                          Come to think of it, I think I am now remembering that BCS Top 2 is automatically the NCG and committee chooses other matcups from BCS Top 12? Or something like that? You see, I am a bettor that can handicap games, but have less knowledge about the intricacies of selecting the matchups.
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                                          • MoneyLineDawg
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-01-09
                                            • 13253

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            Come to think of it, I think I am now remembering that BCS Top 2 is automatically the NCG and committee chooses other matcups from BCS Top 12? Or something like that? You see, I am a bettor that can handicap games, but have less knowledge about the intricacies of selecting the matchups.
                                            Haha, that's right.....They pick the other matchups, and I don't see how Boise jumps Bama......Human polls will have Bama over Boise IMO and computer rankings must have Bama as the better team
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                                            • thefonzo
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-10-10
                                              • 671

                                              #57
                                              LSU=Baltimore with Trent Dilfer winning super bowl.

                                              BAMA=Baltimore with overrated Flacco at QB, or Jets with Sanchez.

                                              How can the 2 best teams not have a competent QB between them.

                                              I'll take Luck Weeden or Moore vs. LSU over a rematch every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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                                              • Thunder Gulch
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-30-10
                                                • 996

                                                #58
                                                Some of you guys still miss the point....LSU won national titles this decade with two QB's I can't even name now, and Alabama won with McElroy. They don't need Andrew Luck or Cam Newton because they both have about 10 defensive starters that will be in the NFL. Defense wins championships.
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                                                • Romanov
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-08-10
                                                  • 4137

                                                  #59
                                                  as always i will be rooting for a bcs clusterfxck
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                                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                    • 18815

                                                    #60
                                                    would of liked to see some points..

                                                    seemed like it was more alabama beating themselves,

                                                    awful play calling inside the 30 yard line everytime.. how does a top program not have a capable fg kicker?


                                                    greatest game of the season?

                                                    all you had to do was flip the channel, and put on ok state and kansas state.

                                                    that was a great game back and forth sea-saw battle
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                                                    • ebbearsfb1
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-07-08
                                                      • 18815

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Romanov
                                                      as always i will be rooting for a bcs clusterfxck
                                                      i hope lsu loses to arkansas,

                                                      ok state to oklahoma,

                                                      stanford to oregon,

                                                      that would be chaos
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                                                      • seaborneq
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-08-06
                                                        • 22556

                                                        #62
                                                        Bans had it's chance. Should definitely be in championship game if lsu loses though. But lsu will hold the head to head this season no matter what happens from here on.
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                                                        • Romanov
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-08-10
                                                          • 4137

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                                          i hope lsu loses to arkansas, ok state to oklahoma, stanford to oregon, that would be chaos
                                                          if this is the case, then Bama would get in because they would have the "best" loss.

                                                          probably against Boise St
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                                                          • tokio
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-30-10
                                                            • 2150

                                                            #64
                                                            OKST stands a good chance to be undefeated since OU Broyler is out for the season.
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                                                            • InTheDrink
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-23-09
                                                              • 23983

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Romanov

                                                              if this is the case, then Bama would get in because they would have the "best" loss.

                                                              probably against Boise St
                                                              Bama won't get in over a one loss LSU because LSU will have won the sec championship as they now hold the tiebreaker vs Bama

                                                              Maybe LSU will lose to arky AND Georgia

                                                              LSU ain't losing to anyone
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                                                              • BigdaddyQH
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-13-09
                                                                • 19531

                                                                #66
                                                                Stanford, Oklahoma State, or Boise State would kick the caca out of either Alabama or LSU. The SEC is way over hyped. Right now, Arkansas and Georgia look as good as anyone else in the SEC. I would love to see either Arkansas or Georgia defeat LSU, and put an end to all of this SEC nonsense. Those were the two worst offenses that I have seen this season on a Nationally Televised game. Anyone who wants a rematch of thoose two teams is either an SEC homer or crazy.
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                  Stanford, Oklahoma State, or Boise State would kick the caca out of either Alabama or LSU. The SEC is way over hyped. Right now, Arkansas and Georgia look as good as anyone else in the SEC. I would love to see either Arkansas or Georgia defeat LSU, and put an end to all of this SEC nonsense. Those were the two worst offenses that I have seen this season on a Nationally Televised game. Anyone who wants a rematch of thoose two teams is either an SEC homer or crazy.
                                                                  And that's why LSU and Alabama are still 1-2 on Sagarin Ratings, meaning that they would be favored over any other team on the country on a neutral field? The offenses aren't horrendous, it is the defenses that are tremendous. No, the SEC is not nearly as deep as it was a couple of years ago, but it STILL has the two best teams in the country. It seems you have a deep bias against the conference.
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                                                                  • INVEGA MAN
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-30-08
                                                                    • 6787

                                                                    #68
                                                                    i WOULD NEVER WANT TO SEE THEM PLAY AGAIN. PLEASE I WAS WATCHING WITH 5 GUYS AND ALL SAID SAME THING "BORING".
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                                                                    • thefonzo
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-10-10
                                                                      • 671

                                                                      #69
                                                                      To thunder gulch: McElroy was the perfect college version of a veteran QB who manages the game and doesn't lose it for the defense. McCarron and Lee both shit the bed as soon as the spotlights came on. Jefferson didn't look bad, but he didn't make any plays either. Bama clearly didn't gameplan against the option enough.

                                                                      Oh, and Matt FLYNN, QB of LSU's 2007 championship team is Aaron Rodgers' backup and will be given the chance to start somewhere next year.

                                                                      You know what I honestly think happens at some of these SEC schools? They don't develop their quarterbacks correctly because they never expect them to go out and win the game. They expect their superior athletes at the skill positions and defense to make the plays.
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                                                                      • moses millsap
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 08-25-05
                                                                        • 8289

                                                                        #70
                                                                        LSU would kill Oklahoma State by 20 plus. They would lose to Stanford IMO. That's the game I want to see. Think they'd be -7.5 to -9 over Stanford.
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