Monday Night Football Video Poker special: Win an iPad 2!

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  • Carseller4
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-22-09
    • 19627

    #36
    Originally posted by wtt0315
    Video poker is the best game out there. This is much better then the blackjack promo
    Better for SBR.

    If Video Poker is better how come it is being run throughout the entire game?

    The BlackJack Promo ended when the first team scored.

    Still bitter about this.
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #37
      Originally posted by ThaddeusB
      The payout chart indicates a 5coin, $5 royal pays 20,000. Lou said 100,000. Conclusion: who knows?
      Ok, it pays 20,000 right now in the casino..................so I'm assumming 20,000 for the promo.
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #38
        Originally posted by Fishhead
        Ok, it pays 20,000 right now in the casino..................so I'm assumming 20,000 for the promo.

        If this is correct, and I assume it is...................the best way to attack this promo is to only play ONE COIN on the $5 jacks or better machine.


        Here are the payouts with the 8775 pt IPAD2 promo in place...........




        1. MAXIMUM COIN..........100.5%

        2. ONE COIN...................102.33%





        TERRIFFIC PROMO HERE BY SBR................................JUST MAKE CERTAIN YOU ARE ONE OF THE FIRST TWO TO HIT A ROYAL, AS THAT IS WHEN THE PROMO WILL END.

        I ASSUME LOU/SBR will be keeping us updated every 10 minutes or so throughout the game to let us know when and if the two royals have been hit.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #39
          Originally posted by Fishhead
          If this is correct, and I assume it is...................the best way to attack this promo is to only play ONE COIN on the $5 jacks or better machine.


          Here are the payouts with the 8775 pt IPAD2 promo in place...........




          1. MAXIMUM COIN..........100.5%

          2. ONE COIN...................102.33%





          TERRIFFIC PROMO HERE BY SBR................................JUST MAKE CERTAIN YOU ARE ONE OF THE FIRST TWO TO HIT A ROYAL, AS THAT IS WHEN THE PROMO WILL END.

          I ASSUME LOU/SBR will be keeping us updated every 10 minutes or so throughout the game to let us know when and if the two royals have been hit.



          If one can get 3000 hands in during the game(easily attainable), the odds of hitting the ROYAL are approximently ONE IN THIRTEEN
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          • SBR_John
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-12-05
            • 16471

            #40
            We will do our best to update the players. Hopefully the winners will post as soon as they hit. I can not guarantee how quickly we can update you guys. This is the first time running this special so factor that in by all means.
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            • sharpcat
              Restricted User
              • 12-19-09
              • 4516

              #41
              Originally posted by SBR Lou
              2. Players who hit a Royal Flush must stop playing immediately after being dealt the winning hand. Players who continue to play one additional hand after hitting the Royal Flush will be disqualified.
              Why would it matter if the player plays a hand after hitting the royal????
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              • HeeeHAWWWW
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-13-08
                • 5487

                #42
                Originally posted by sharpcat

                Why would it matter if the player plays a hand after hitting the royal????

                Anti-bot thing.
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                • mattmc419
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-16-10
                  • 3951

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                  If one can get 3000 hands in during the game(easily attainable), the odds of hitting the ROYAL are approximently ONE IN THIRTEEN
                  What's the expected loss over 40,000 hands normally?
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                  • SBR Lou
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 37863

                    #44
                    Small correction guys. I'm a dunce and miscalculated the 5 coin payout.

                    Betting 1-4 coins (5-20 points) will pay an iPad 2 only on a Royal Flush.

                    Betting all 5 coins (25 points) will pay an iPad 2 plus 4000 coins (20,000 SBR points).

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                    • benjy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-19-09
                      • 2158

                      #45
                      Originally posted by mattmc419
                      What's the expected loss over 40,000 hands normally?
                      Well, using a slightly sub-optimal play of say 99% (instead of 99.54%) and one coin (5pts):

                      5pts * 40K * 1% = 2,000pts

                      Not really true because you'd miss out on the Royal payout itself. This needs to be accounted for too. Assuming that the Wiz of Odds used the 800/1 payout is his calcs, you'd hit one over this same sample and hence miss out on 4K more points.

                      So roughly, it'd cost 6K points (2K in losses and 4K in opportunity cost) over 40K hands.
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                      • HeeeHAWWWW
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-13-08
                        • 5487

                        #46
                        Originally posted by mattmc419
                        What's the expected loss over 40,000 hands normally?
                        40k hands at 5 a pop, -920 pts mean, 1sd -5340 to +3500, 2sd -9760 to 7920.

                        That's excluding the ipad.
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                        • mattmc419
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-16-10
                          • 3951

                          #47
                          Originally posted by benjy

                          Well, using a slightly sub-optimal play of say 99% (instead of 99.54%) and one coin (5pts):

                          5pts * 40K * 1% = 2,000pts

                          Not really true because you'd miss out on the Royal payout itself. This needs to be accounted for too. Assuming that the Wiz of Odds used the 800/1 payout is his calcs, you'd hit one over this same sample and hence miss out on 4K more points.

                          So roughly, it'd cost 6K points (2K in losses and 4K in opportunity cost) over 40K hands.
                          Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

                          40k hands at 5 a pop, -920 pts mean, 1sd -5340 to +3500, 2sd -9760 to 7920.

                          That's excluding the ipad.
                          Thanks guys

                          I don't know perfect basic strategy in poker like I do in blackjack. Accounting for that, I'm going to sit this one out.

                          Good luck to everyone who plays!
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #48
                            Originally posted by mattmc419
                            thanks guys

                            i don't know perfect basic strategy in poker like i do in blackjack. Accounting for that, i'm going to sit this one out.

                            good luck to everyone who plays!

                            thanks:d
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                            • Fishhead
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 40179

                              #49
                              One is basically risking 300-400 pts to win the IPAD if they choose to play just one coin..................


                              GREAT DEAL
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                              • benjy
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-19-09
                                • 2158

                                #50
                                Show your work Fish. I'd take my back of the envelope calculation or HeeHawww over your unsupported statement.
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by benjy
                                  Show your work Fish. I'd take my back of the envelope calculation or HeeHawww over your unsupported statement.
                                  The game returns 97.94 playing one coin..................not counting the IPAD2 for a ROYAL FLUSH.

                                  In a 3 hours window, one can roughly play 3000 hands playing 5 pts a time(one coin).............meaning one would put 15,000 pts at risk...................which equates to losing a tad over 300 pts in the longterm playing 3 hours(not counting the ROYAL FLUSH/IPAD2)

                                  Obviously one can lose more or less(or actually come out ahead).................but on paper longterm one would lose a tad over 300 pts if they played 3,000 hands one coin at a time.
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                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-13-08
                                    • 5487

                                    #52
                                    Is it really 97.94%?

                                    If so, yeah, 3000 hands at 5/hand is -309 mean.
                                    1sd -1509 to +901
                                    2sd -2730 to 2112
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                                    • mattmc419
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-16-10
                                      • 3951

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                                      Is it really 97.94%?

                                      If so, yeah, 3000 hands at 5/hand is -309 mean.
                                      1sd -1509 to +901
                                      2sd -2730 to 2112
                                      What % did you calculate your other numbers with?
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                                      • HeeeHAWWWW
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-13-08
                                        • 5487

                                        #54
                                        Urrrm, don't remember exactly, 99dotsomething? Those were over 40k hands though, cos that's what was asked for. Fishy's were over 3k.
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                                          Is it really 97.94%?

                                          If so, yeah, 3000 hands at 5/hand is -309 mean.
                                          1sd -1509 to +901
                                          2sd -2730 to 2112
                                          Two hours ago it was............but SBR has now changed the payout on the FULL HOUSE from 9 down to 8.........

                                          The new payout is now 96.799%
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                                          • benjy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-19-09
                                            • 2158

                                            #56
                                            Thanks Fish.

                                            Did you remove the Royal Flush payout to get 97.94?

                                            So using your #'s over 40K hands one would lose 40/3*300ish or 4K points.
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                                            • Fishhead
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-11-05
                                              • 40179

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                                              Two hours ago it was............but SBR has now changed the payout on the FULL HOUSE from 9 down to 8.........

                                              The new payout is now 96.799%

                                              If one puts 15,000 coin in with the above return, it's pretty easy to figure what their losses on paper would be over the longterm..................they would lose 3.2 for every 100.......32 for every 1000.......480 for every 15,000.


                                              STILL a nice overlay..........
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                                              • roundcake
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 09-02-07
                                                • 93

                                                #58
                                                ooo i may try, i need an ipad
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                                                • Fishhead
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                  • 40179

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                  If one puts 15,000 coin in with the above return, it's pretty easy to figure what their losses on paper would be over the longterm..................they would lose 3.2 for every 100.......32 for every 1000.......480 for every 15,000.


                                                  STILL a nice overlay..........

                                                  Three pts to consider on top of this though...............

                                                  1. Is the game on the complete up and up........this is not Nevada based.

                                                  2. One must play perfect strategy for the above results

                                                  3. One has to take into consideration that only two IPADS will be awarded.


                                                  GOOD DAY,
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                                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-13-08
                                                    • 5487

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                    The new payout is now 96.799%
                                                    Ouch!

                                                    3k hands at 5 each....
                                                    Mean -480
                                                    1SD -1674 to +714
                                                    2SD -2868 to 1908


                                                    Have to go in with a decent bankroll too, with 500pts 78% chance of losing it all, with 1000 54%, 2000 17%, 3000% 3%.

                                                    I'd guess most trying would have less than 1000, thus a very high chance of losing the whole lot.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #61
                                                      Fishhead just showed in this thread why he is a professional video poker player
                                                      Unreal..he knows every fukkin stat and percentage
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                                                      • rotcod
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 02-21-11
                                                        • 84

                                                        #62
                                                        give it a shot...
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                                                        • Spanks
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 2040

                                                          #63
                                                          lou...i need a ipad...
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                                                          • Gio21
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-13-09
                                                            • 1594

                                                            #64
                                                            Pro's only?
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                                                            • SBR Lou
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-02-07
                                                              • 37863

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Gio21
                                                              Pro's only?
                                                              Everyone can play
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                                                              • Carseller4
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-22-09
                                                                • 19627

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by SBR Lou

                                                                Fine-print
                                                                1. If there are no winners, we will re-run the same promo next Monday night.
                                                                We all know how this is going to turn out.

                                                                Anything to delay the return of a BlackJack Promo.
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                                                                • BigDaddy
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-01-06
                                                                  • 8378

                                                                  #67
                                                                  i am locked and loaded with 500 points

                                                                  fishhead how much of a chance do i have with 500 points betting 5 points a hand?

                                                                  i do not like seeing the fullhouse reduced to 8-1

                                                                  why was that done?


                                                                  thanks
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                                                                  • BigDaddy
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-01-06
                                                                    • 8378

                                                                    #68
                                                                    *A Royal Flush on 1-4 coins (5-20 points) will pay an iPad 2.


                                                                    anyone playing 10,15 or 20 points a hand is crazy.

                                                                    you either play 5 or 25
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                                                                    • azn624
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-29-09
                                                                      • 2771

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Are we suppose to put coin value at 5 and bet 1?
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                                                                      • secretstash
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 03-29-10
                                                                        • 14907

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Azn the game will be changed for the promo. It will be set to 5pts. And 1-5 coins allowed.

                                                                        -stash
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