If you dont think certain games are fixed, explain this

[ebbearsfb1]

how does an extra point that was clearly missed, get called good?


i've been naivee about it, tried to justify bad calls, or shady thinks going on, by the refs


but after watching that toledo game today.. its official... no way about it that tthe game was fixed for cuse to win...


a syracuse backer must of made a deal with the devil

[ebbearsfb1]

all there gonna do is issue an apology saying sorry the officals missed the call

[Glitch]

i didnt watch the game and still dont even have a clear view of what exactly happened, but people who think some games arent fixed are very naive and incorrect

[Glitch]

proof.

[dom75]

Exactly.... I didn't get to see the game, but heard about it. They'll just kept it as it is. As I am typing this, I didn't take a peek at the spread and total, but if that would have affected the way people got paid, some folks are not too happy right now then.

[pavyracer]

This happens regularly. I mean they have 7 refs in the game a few more in the booth to review replays, 24 cameras for each game and they still miss the call. The ball is brown and the uprights are yellow.

[P.F.Kasooff]

The MOB owns the MAC

[Tech N9ne]

If games are fixed then why do you continue to gamble ??

[CarpeDime]

yup fixed

[Cap dat 4ss]

proof.

So you have Donaghy, Franzese and some other random video. Thats it Not exactly a body of evidence. You choose to believe a liar, cheat and fraud in Donaghy but I think I'll wait until more of a credible source comes forth. Face it, Very few games are influenced by crooked refs, players or coaches . Extremely rare. Donaghy getting caught certainly does not imply that fixing games is rampant.

[Glitch]

theyre obviously not all fixed. and in team sports its hard for one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch.

an umpire in baseball can do it easily, a qb or cb in football, a tennis player or a golfer because its 1 on 1.

[Glitch]

So you have Donaghy, Franzese and some other random video. Thats it Not exactly a body of evidence. You choose to believe a liar, cheat and fraud in Donaghy but I think I'll wait until more of a credible source comes forth. Face it, Very few games are influenced by crooked refs, players or coaches . Extremely rare. Donaghy getting caught certainly does not imply that fixing games is rampant.

how is that not proof that SOME games are fixed???

theres a ref fixing games.

theres a ex mafia member explaining in detail how he use to recruit college players to shave points...

theres a "random guy" with a whole book about it who apparently has a lot of proof of other games. i didnt read the book. read it yourself if you want him to not be just some random guy.

[Cap dat 4ss]

theyre obviously not all fixed. and in team sports its hard for one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. an umpire in baseball can do it easily, a qb or cb in football, a tennis player or a golfer because its 1 on 1.

To even say they're not all fixed implies that's there's a large number that are. I would argue that it is likely far below 1% of sporting events are actually fixed and even then I would say they likely win only between 70-80%, definitely not a sure thing. But I will concede to the fact it has happened before and will likely happen again. I'm not really saying that NO games are fixed but that it's such a small number we're likely not even betting on those games.

[Glitch]

i wasnt on this game, im not bitter, im up big today....just pointing out that SOME games are fixed for people who think no games are fixed.

your inferring skills need work. i was implying nothing of the sort.

unlike you i dont claim to know or be able to guess what percentage of games are fixed or not fixed. im not making sh*t up here, just posting real videos of real stuff. take it how you want.

[P.F.Kasooff]

a tennis player

Remember the Russian scandal a few yrs back? Books began to not pay on them

[Cap dat 4ss]

i wasnt on this game, im not bitter, im up big today....just pointing out that SOME games are fixed for people who think no games are fixed. your inferring skills need work. i was implying nothing of the sort. unlike you i dont claim to know or be able to guess what percentage of games are fixed or not fixed. im not making sh*t up here, just posting real videos of real stuff. take it how you want.

I quoted you but was really referring to all of the threads that pop up regarding this issue. It's apparent that some guys think every $10 bet they lose was fixed. Congrats on being up

[opie1988]

I have no doubt some of my larger SBR points bets have been sabotaged by a fixed outcome. I think SBR John & Dozer have certain players under their gold-plated thumbs, and when myself, and possibly others, loads up on a particular side in the SBR Book....these 2 cyber-gangsters see to it that I lose.

How the fukk else can you explain my biggest points bets always losing??

Crooked fukks...

[Glitch]

Remember the Russian scandal a few yrs back? Books began to not pay on them

yeah nikolai davydenko, a top 4 ranked player in the world at the time. HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY bets were coming in for him to lose on BetFair. you know what? he lost. he has been accused of throwing matches many times before and since but i think people in the know spread out the action now. he is becoming washed up and can lose naturally in the present-day.

I quoted you but was really referring to all of the threads that pop up regarding this issue. It's apparent that some guys think every $10 bet they lose was fixed. Congrats on being up

yeah man i agree, i hate that shit. see it all the time in the tennis forum when a favorite loses. i got my only infraction on here for callin those people morons and telling them to shut up.

[ebbearsfb1]

I didn't say every game.. certain games though.. that would be a damn shame if it cost toledo a bowl game.. or anything like that

[gohabsgo]

I have no doubt some of my larger SBR points bets have been sabotaged by a fixed outcome. I think SBR John & Dozer have certain players under their gold-plated thumbs, and when myself, and possibly others, loads up on a particular side in the SBR Book....these 2 cyber-gangsters see to it that I lose.

How the fukk else can you explain my biggest points bets always losing??

Crooked fukks...

How many points are we talking about if i may ask?

[zsr]

lol at thinking college players or even refs are fixing damn games. Fukkin college players get paid more money under the table by there school then you'll ever see in your life just by winning games. Too many bitter gamblers. Obivously NBA fixes games but everyone has known that for 15 years

[The Seer]

don't forget about boxing. It's also easy to do in basketball because there are only 5 players on a team on the court

[ChuckyTheGoat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsmOr4nkHSw

WTF was the ref looking at?

[Matches Malone]

Lundy Tells Other Athletes Not To Repeat His Mistakes


February 26, 1999|By Rick Morrissey, Tribune Staff Writer.

LEXINGTON, Ky. — The intentional fumble that changed a man's life and sullied a school's reputation came on an impulsive, still-fuzzy decision.
Former Northwestern running back Dennis Lundy said Thursday that a gambling problem pushed him to fumble on purpose near the goal-line at Iowa on Nov. 12, 1994, but that he didn't think of dropping the ball until just before he did.




"All I know is that I was playing the game, I was playing my heart out as I normally was, but for some reason I fumbled the ball and I did it on purpose," he said. "The only thing I can attribute it to is the gambling problem I had at the time.
"If I didn't have a gambling problem at the time, it never would have happened. I wouldn't be in the predicament I'm in right now."
Lundy, who has admitted lying to a federal grand jury, pleaded guilty to a perjury charge earlier this month and will be sentenced May 5. He faces up to 12 months in prison, but prosecutors will recommend less time as part of a plea agreement.
Lundy spoke publicly about his gambling problem for the first time Thursday during a seminar for University of Kentucky athletes. As part of his plea agreement, he is required to talk about the hazards of compulsive gambling.
"When you know you've wagered on this game and you're trying to make your bet, you just don't think logically," he said. "You're going to do whatever it takes to win your bet."
Lundy, 26, would not discuss how many NU athletes were involved in gambling when he played there. One other player has pleaded guilty to perjury and charges are pending against two others.
Lundy said he began gambling after his sophomore at Northwestern and that it "swallowed up my life for two years." By the time he was a senior, he was gambling regularly on college football games, including Northwestern's. The Wildcats lost 49-13 to Iowa in 1994, and the third-quarter fumble helped Lundy, then a senior, earn $400. After an assistant coach heard another player accuse Lundy of fumbling on purpose, coach Gary Barnett suspended Lundy for the final game of the 1994 season.
With one more game, Lundy might have become the Wildcats' all-time leading rusher.
"I'd never before in my life played a football game and intentionally tried to fumble," he said. "In this case, it did happen. I acknowledge it. I'm very sorry for it."
He warned Kentucky athletes not to make the same mistake he did.
"It's just not worth it to sacrifice your own future and your own ability for a habit that can haunt you for the rest of your life," he said. "If you do have a problem with gambling, you need to talk to somebody about it as soon as possible because you don't want to end up where I am right now."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-02-26/sports/9902260048_1_compulsive-gambling-plea-agreement-dennis-lundy

[Blackroc78]

how does an extra point that was clearly missed, get called good?


i've been naivee about it, tried to justify bad calls, or shady thinks going on, by the refs


but after watching that toledo game today.. its official... no way about it that tthe game was fixed for cuse to win...


a syracuse backer must of made a deal with the devil

That call was pretty damm bad, should of been good!

[Bluehorseshoe]

[Bluehorseshoe]

It passes right in front of the upright. How could they review that and call it good?

[tailin junkie]

i clearly saw it was missed originally..the replay was clear as day that it was in front of the goal post....i had syracuse so i was scared shitless but i agree with ebbears, the kick was no good..same thing with the psu game..emichigan down huge goin for a field goal on 4th down inside the 5 with less than 3 minutes left..keepin the under intact and screwin psu backers -28.5..shady shit

[firehoyt]

[firehoyt]

Well, look how much money was on East Carolina today. They had seven turnovers. The last one was a fumble on the 1 yard line. Had they scored, they'd have covered the -14. You mean to tell me that was an accident?! 7 turnovers?!?

[tailin junkie]

bottom line is save your money..i hate football

[ebbearsfb1]

lmao.. like i said big east issued an apology

[ebbearsfb1]

take your ******* apology and shove it up ur ass

[Glitch]

i would just say instead of not betting, just try to stay away from lines that are too good to be true or where the line is moving in a highly illogical manner.

you can even look at movies and see how very possibly some things can mimic real life. the movie "casino" (ties between the mob and betting institutions) the movie "bookies" (where even a random college kid can approach a star player or two and offer to pay him/them not to cover a spread.)

[crustyme]

100% fix.

from the refs who called it good on the field to replay officials "confirming it."

there was also a phantom block in the back penalty which negated a td return by toledo. so you can clearly see refs had cuse -2.5.