Full Tilt Poker Accused Of Stealing $440 Million In Giant Ponzi Scheme

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  • mr. leisure
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-29-08
    • 17507

    #1
    Full Tilt Poker Accused Of Stealing $440 Million In Giant Ponzi Scheme
    Frickin crooks


    http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/09/ftp-civil-amended/
  • jarvol
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-13-10
    • 6074

    #2
    Shockkkkkkkker!
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    • wantitall4moi
      SBR MVP
      • 04-17-10
      • 3063

      #3
      all books are set up the same way basically. So it isnt any shock. I wouldnt say any book has enough cash on hand to pay all the post up funds they have balances for. They just did it on a much larger scale because poker started to become main stream and when you have major networks putting it up over and over again it is just a green light for these guys to take advantage of peoples naivete.

      They should go after every single professional and network that promoted these sites and sue the shit out of them, as well as prosecute them as accessories. I am sure every ambulance chaser around is trying to get up a class action suit. But the government should step in here and start writing warrants. They want to force these guys out they should then try and arrest some of the domestic entities that promoted them to allow them to get so big in the first place.

      Will be interesting to see what happens. but I imagine nothing.
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      • Hoonk
        SBR Rookie
        • 08-23-11
        • 6

        #4
        Whatttt? 410 million?
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65658

          #5
          Just read that, don't think for a second Ivey's hands aren't dirty too.

          I wouldn't be surprised if Ivey winds up face up in the Camden River.
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          • FreeHainsworth
            SBR Sharp
            • 01-12-11
            • 362

            #6
            Good thing I withdrew my money
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            • mighty maron
              SBR MVP
              • 04-20-09
              • 4215

              #7
              Several K I had on the site when it all went down
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              • jetsjets1028
                SBR MVP
                • 02-10-10
                • 1234

                #8
                cant even play for free on that site
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                • neverstoppers23
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-26-09
                  • 6302

                  #9
                  Wow. Wow. Wow.
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                  • mr. leisure
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-29-08
                    • 17507

                    #10
                    I hate theives
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                    • RGG
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-11-11
                      • 1045

                      #11
                      Wouldn't suprise me. Online poker/gambling is crazy, we all know it.
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                      • wrongturn
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-06-06
                        • 2228

                        #12
                        The funny thing is if there were no Black Monday, FTP would still be a top poker site. And if there were no 2008 market crash, Madoff would still be a great fund manager.
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                        • mr. leisure
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-29-08
                          • 17507

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wrongturn
                          The funny thing is if there were no Black Monday, FTP would still be a top poker site. And if there were no 2008 market crash, Madoff would still be a great fund manager.

                          So true
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                          • noober
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-23-09
                            • 2012

                            #14
                            the link is not working or article was removed
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                            • RGG
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-11-11
                              • 1045

                              #15
                              Originally posted by noober
                              the link is not working or article was removed
                              Just go to 2+2...there's a ton of threads on it there.
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                              • mighty maron
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-20-09
                                • 4215

                                #16
                                Originally posted by wrongturn
                                The funny thing is if there were no Black Monday, FTP would still be a top poker site. And if there were no 2008 market crash, Madoff would still be a great fund manager.
                                right on point...the world would have never known



                                Howards brother made millions from owning the store that Full Tilt bought the items from ftps
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                                • ThaWoj
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-09-10
                                  • 6764

                                  #17
                                  wow.

                                  thx for the article. kinda glad if that happens, they deserve it if all the charges are true.
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                                  • k13
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-16-10
                                    • 18104

                                    #18
                                    Poker players won't do shit but maybe the FBI will.

                                    Be nice to see all those crooks pennyless and in jail.

                                    They suck at poker anyway so without backers/stolen funds they won't be able to get anything back.
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                                    • pokerplayer22
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-09-09
                                      • 1207

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                      Just read that, don't think for a second Ivey's hands aren't dirty too.

                                      I wouldn't be surprised if Ivey winds up face up in the Camden River.
                                      Definately agree about Ivey...The funny thing is, he tried to play the victim card and get sympathy and boycot the WSOP this year. What a bunch of crooks.
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                                      • BiTeMe UsAdOj
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-18-11
                                        • 7537

                                        #20
                                        These bastards stole a good chunk from me, too. I've wanted to 'hurt' Howard, Ferguson, et al since all this thievery got exposed...
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          This is why online poker will never be legal in usa


                                          What a crook Ivy is, I heard he is one of main culprits

                                          He needed the money because he has blow almost everything
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                                          • BrigadierPudding
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 11-07-09
                                            • 617

                                            #22
                                            According to Forbes, prosecutors allege that CEO Ray Bitar illegally received $41 million, Lederer got $42 million and Ferguson pocketed at least $25 million.

                                            Why haven't Lederer and Ferguson been arrested?
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                                            • ttwarrior1
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 06-23-09
                                              • 28460

                                              #23
                                              subject poker is also the same people that made up the merge news a couple weeks ago that was 100 percent totally not true. It was all a made up lie
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                                              • sportsfanatic
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-10-07
                                                • 3967

                                                #24
                                                i hope the u.s. is wrong about this.
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                                                • mighty maron
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-09
                                                  • 4215

                                                  #25
                                                  Despite the money lost this video gives me a chuckle



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                                                  • Harmy G
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 02-10-10
                                                    • 210

                                                    #26
                                                    Will this day be know as Truth Tuesday?
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                                                    • P.F.Kasooff
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-13-10
                                                      • 1903

                                                      #27
                                                      Further evidence that JJ's claim is true: No such thing as a 'professional' poker player. Got to have an angle!
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                                                      • P.F.Kasooff
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-13-10
                                                        • 1903

                                                        #28
                                                        Wow! Even Wall Street Journal's Market Watch is covering the story.

                                                        Video Here
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                                                        • mr. leisure
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-29-08
                                                          • 17507

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by P.F.Kasooff
                                                          Further evidence that JJ's claim is true: No such thing as a 'professional' poker player. Got to have an angle!
                                                          If they weren`t so greedy all they have to do is sit back collect the rake and get rich .
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                                                          • P.F.Kasooff
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-13-10
                                                            • 1903

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mr. leisure

                                                            If they weren`t so greedy all they have to do is sit back collect the rake and get rich .

                                                            Wall Street Journal's Market Watch is saying the Money Processors crackdown got so tight that FTP just said fuuk it and stole the post-up funds. <---- In a nutshell
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                                                            • sharpcircle
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 02-05-11
                                                              • 308

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                                              subject poker is also the same people that made up the merge news a couple weeks ago that was 100 percent totally not true. It was all a made up lie
                                                              citation?

                                                              because you're a known retard and subject poker / noah isn't.
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                                                              • PaperTrail07
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-29-08
                                                                • 20423

                                                                #32
                                                                looking back at this in 100 years......maybe top 10 greatest scams of all TIME
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                                                                • PaperTrail07
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-29-08
                                                                  • 20423

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  This is why online poker will never be legal in usa


                                                                  What a crook Ivy is, I heard he is one of main culprits

                                                                  He needed the money because he has blow almost everything

                                                                  JJ thats 100% wrong...hes got plenty of $$$$$$$$$$ ....i thnk he knew it was going down though
                                                                  ..............
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                                                                  • KEdge2k
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-11-09
                                                                    • 240

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Don't these board members have some sort of fiduciary responsibilities to ensure the money is available to distribution to the players? I can imagine that there will be civil suits filed shortly by various individuals who had high balances at the time of the seizures.
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                                                                    • nenad
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 08-12-09
                                                                      • 714

                                                                      #35
                                                                      us justice took the money
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