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  • paco
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-07-09
    • 62873

    #1
    Valverde 42/42
    Perfect save record. 42 out of 42.

    Tell me why he's not in the MVP talks?

    Verlander should get CY young and Papa Grande MVP.
  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #2
    Who else is in the MVP debate?
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    • paco
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-07-09
      • 62873

      #3
      Only gave up 2 runs in those 42 saves combined.
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      • mattmc419
        SBR MVP
        • 12-16-10
        • 3951

        #4
        Detroit should have 4 MVP candidates:

        Verlander
        Martinez
        Cabrera
        Valverde

        And that's leaving out Avila who has been rock solid for this team.
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        • paco
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-07-09
          • 62873

          #5
          Originally posted by lakerboy
          Who else is in the MVP debate?
          Adrian

          Granderson
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #6
            I vote for Granderson. They wont give it to a closer unless he gets 60 saves.
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            • paco
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              • 05-07-09
              • 62873

              #7
              Originally posted by lakerboy
              I vote for Granderson. They wont give it to a closer unless he gets 60 saves.
              Means most Valuable player. Yanks still woulda been fine without granderson. Valverde saves been majority 1 run games and against divisional rivals, imagine if Todd Jones was still our closer

              I believe we wouldn't be 8.5 games lead in the division w/o him.

              42-42 is bad ass
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              • Bob Loblaw
                SBR MVP
                • 01-07-10
                • 3508

                #8


                C'mon now. He's also got 4 losses and a 1.30 whip. The save is a joke category to begin with. He's got 14 one run saves. So 28 times he pitched an inning without giving up at least 2 runs. So he got rewarded with a save 28 times for not having an 18+ era for that particular game. 79 games he didn't pitch at all. Is that really something that's MVP worthy?
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                • YorkHunt
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-11-10
                  • 7496

                  #9
                  Beast!
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                  • lakerboy
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                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94379

                    #10
                    Originally posted by paco
                    Means most Valuable player. Yanks still woulda been fine without granderson. Valverde saves been majority 1 run games and against divisional rivals, imagine if Todd Jones was still our closer

                    I believe we wouldn't be 8.5 games lead in the division w/o him.

                    42-42 is bad ass

                    Valverde has been good for sure but i dont think the yanks would have been fine without granderson. arod missed a long time as well. yanks wouldnt even be in the playoff race without curtis.
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                    • Tech N9ne
                      Restricted User
                      • 06-24-11
                      • 5366

                      #11
                      That's my nigg valverde he puts in work like a 9 to 5
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                      • VegasInsider
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-12-10
                        • 14593

                        #12
                        Ellsbury is in that conversation, too.

                        Valverde can't win the MVP...he's only PLAYED 61 1/3 innings THIS ENTIRE SEASON.

                        If Verlander doesn't win the MVP, no pitcher will.
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                        • HOT WINGS
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-29-10
                          • 8055

                          #13
                          Verlander 20-0 when Tigers score 3 or more. Now that is ridiculous. Valverde makes you sweat it out like most closers but doesnt choke like many others do in high pressure situations. Although I still remember him giving up that solo shot to Ortiz in top of 9th at Detroit. Lost a nice chunk on that game.
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                          • gryfyn1
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-30-10
                            • 3285

                            #14
                            because saves are a moronic stat; and he no where close to the best reliever in the AL let alone the best pitcher or player.
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                            • HOT WINGS
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-29-10
                              • 8055

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gryfyn1
                              because saves are a moronic stat; and he no where close to the best reliever in the AL let alone the best pitcher or player.
                              He's a closer not a middle relief pitcher. Can you name 1 closer in baseball that has 25+ saves without blowing 1 in baseball this year? I can't think of one in AL or NL. I agree not MVP or CY young status but to say no where close to best closer/relief pitcher in AL this year is ludacris.
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                              • ZetaPsi808
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-18-08
                                • 12119

                                #16
                                valverde has lost a few games where he comes in a tie game in the 9th inning and gives up a run. he still had a great season, just not good enough to be considered for the cy young or mvp award.
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                                • Br0nxer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-25-11
                                  • 13665

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by paco
                                  Perfect save record. 42 out of 42.

                                  Tell me why he's not in the MVP talks?

                                  Verlander should get CY young and Papa Grande MVP.
                                  your kidding me right

                                  the greatest reliever in the history of the game has never even sniffed an MVP or CY YOUNG

                                  and you want valverde to win it

                                  cmon pal. your better than that comment
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                                  • HoulihansTX
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 02-12-09
                                    • 30566

                                    #18
                                    The save stat just means you pitch in the 9th inning a lot.

                                    Nothing else.
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                                    • gryfyn1
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-30-10
                                      • 3285

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by HOT WINGS
                                      He's a closer not a middle relief pitcher. Can you name 1 closer in baseball that has 25+ saves without blowing 1 in baseball this year? I can't think of one in AL or NL. I agree not MVP or CY young status but to say no where close to best closer/relief pitcher in AL this year is ludacris.
                                      take Papelbon, who has 29 saves, hasn't lost a game and has just one blown save, in a game he didn't give up any runs
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #20
                                        Come on paco.

                                        MVP?

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                                        • Br0nxer
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-25-11
                                          • 13665

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                          take Papelbon, who has 29 saves, hasn't lost a game and has just one blown save, in a game he didn't give up any runs
                                          papelbon is a fukkin polesmoker pal

                                          get real

                                          him and bard have been carrying on a sexual relationship for a while
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                                          • gryfyn1
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-30-10
                                            • 3285

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                            papelbon is a fukkin polesmoker pal

                                            get real

                                            him and bard have been carrying on a sexual relationship for a while
                                            he asked about closers ... but a a red sox fan i can tell you the reliever who is having the best year in the AL is David Robertson.
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                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                              • 02-12-09
                                              • 30566

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                              papelbon is a fukkin polesmoker pal

                                              get real

                                              him and bard have been carrying on a sexual relationship for a while
                                              You are not even arguing the point....
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                                              • Br0nxer
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-25-11
                                                • 13665

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                                he asked about closers ... but a a red sox fan i can tell you the reliever who is having the best year in the AL is David Robertson.
                                                heir apparent to rivera

                                                which i have a feeling might be after this year

                                                i think rivera might hang it up when the year is over

                                                there have been chinks in the armor this year
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                                                • HoulihansTX
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                                                  • 02-12-09
                                                  • 30566

                                                  #25
                                                  The best reliever in the game is Sergio Romo

                                                  This kind of thought process presented by the OP is s the same used when GM's overpay players. Subsequently being fired later.
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                                                  • HoulihansTX
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                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                    • 30566

                                                    #26
                                                    Actually the Tigers should find a GM that thinks like the OP, and trade Valverde for better players.
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                                                    • Br0nxer
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                                                      • 03-25-11
                                                      • 13665

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                      The best reliever in the game is Sergio Romo

                                                      This kind of thought process presented by the OP is s the same used when GM's overpay players. Subsequently being fired later.


                                                      what fukkin planet are you living on to think sergio romo is the best reliever in baseball

                                                      you should have your SBR membership revoked for this post
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                                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                                        • 02-12-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Currently has the longest scoreless inning streak of all releivers this year.

                                                        He has not allowed a run in 3 months.

                                                        Is his level of competition shitty, yes

                                                        Does he pitch in a pitchers park. Yes

                                                        Are his accomplishments undeniable. Yes
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                                                        • Br0nxer
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                                                          • 03-25-11
                                                          • 13665

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                          Currently has the longest scoreless inning streak of all releivers this year.

                                                          He has not allowed a run in 3 months.

                                                          Is his level of competition shitty, yes

                                                          Does he pitch in a pitchers park. Yes

                                                          Are his accomplishments undeniable. Yes
                                                          yea and if this sergio romo ever sniffed the postseason the guy would implode like a nuclear bomb

                                                          he isnt even in the list of top 20 relievers

                                                          there is one reliever in baseball

                                                          Mariano Rivera

                                                          and the rest of the league is 10 miles in the rear view mirror
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                                                          • HoulihansTX
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                                                            • 02-12-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            He pitched last year as a Giant, and allowed no runs in the postseason. En Route to winning the World Series.
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                                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                                              • 02-12-09
                                                              • 30566

                                                              #31
                                                              Thank you Bronxer, for letting us know that you are a Yankee fan.

                                                              Go forth and sin no more.
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                                                              • Br0nxer
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-25-11
                                                                • 13665

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                He pitched last year as a Giant, and allowed no runs in the postseason. En Route to winning the World Series.
                                                                i will be honest

                                                                barely fukkin heard of him

                                                                if he pitched in postseason and didnt give up a run god bless him

                                                                far from being on an elite level though
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                                                                • lakerboy
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                                  • 94379

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Rivera is still the best closer. I would take him over any guy in a pressure situation. Anyways the topic was about MVP.
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                                                                  • No coincidences
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                                    • 76300

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                                                    i will be honest

                                                                    barely fukkin heard of him

                                                                    if he pitched in postseason and didnt give up a run god bless him

                                                                    far from being on an elite level though
                                                                    His absence is basically the main reason behind their struggles this year -- right up there with Posey.
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                                                                    • Br0nxer
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-25-11
                                                                      • 13665

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                      Rivera is still the best closer. I would take him over any guy in a pressure situation. Anyways the topic was about MVP.
                                                                      the issue of rivera being the best closer is beyond reproach. even if he has lost a step this year he is still so far and away in front of every other guy its hilarious

                                                                      rivera is a top 15 PLAYER in the history of the game. again. Let me repeat it. PLAYER.


                                                                      he is a mythical player in our time

                                                                      when he hangs it up we will probably never see another

                                                                      its blasphemy to even mention valverde as an mvp candidate. its utterly ridiculous.
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