End The Charade And Pay College Athletes

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  • MartinBlank
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-20-08
    • 8382

    #36
    Originally posted by Sunde91
    not a single comment on no endorsements I see. I suppose because there is no defense to be made whatsoever. others make millions off you, you get nothing (jerseys, video games, etc.).
    You mean like research scientists who do all the bench work under an NIH grant----then watch the university they work for sell that research to Merck, SmithKline, Glaxo---or any other pharma company?

    The university provides a lab, grant money----and they get the benefit of all the work.

    Is that really any different?
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82815

      #37
      Originally posted by bb_skoots
      Interesting idea here. Make the sports teams seperate from the university. Boosters could "own" the team and pay the players and coaches and pay rent for the stadium. Still wear the uniforms too. Have a 18 to 22 age restriction so they will be college aged. I'd watch and gamble on it.
      Exactly. The players still have to be enrolled as students but will be employees of the team. The same 4-5 years of eligibility could apply like now. Then after they use their eligibility they can join the NFL or the NBA if they want. But during their 4-5 years in college they will get paid like minor league baseball players get paid now. The school owns the team and if they want they can even set a salary cap so all the colleges are on equal terms.
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      • jarvol
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-13-10
        • 6074

        #38
        I have no problem with endorsments as long as that money is put in a trust for the athletes for after they graduate or turn 25. Amatuers can not get paid. Period.
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        • brahmabull117
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-08-10
          • 8622

          #39
          Originally posted by rsnnh12
          Correct, but less than 7% of D1 athletic departments are making money overall. The revenue from football and basketball aids a lot of other sports. Athletes should not be paid by the school, because all it would do is raise tuition for everyone else. The issue of endorsements is certainly interesting tho, and initially, it sounds good to me. I'll have to do more reading into it tho. http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/...s+and+Expenses


          the universites don't have to pay for it


          let these athletes make money off their own jersey sales and endorsements, same thing as you see with the olympics
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          • brahmabull117
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-08-10
            • 8622

            #40
            Originally posted by jarvol
            I have no problem with endorsments as long as that money is put in a trust for the athletes for after they graduate or turn 25. Amatuers can not get paid. Period.


            bullsht



            why are olympic athletes then allowed to get paid?
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            • jarvol
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-13-10
              • 6074

              #41
              Life is full of choices. Nobody makes a kid sign an athletic scholarship. Let him go from high school to the D-League or Single A baseball or semi-pro football league and see which option they prefer.
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              • rsnnh12
                SBR MVP
                • 09-26-10
                • 3487

                #42
                Originally posted by brahmabull117
                bullsht



                why are olympic athletes then allowed to get paid?
                Olympic athletes arent amateurs anymore...

                see: USA basketball team
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                • The Bet Master
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-29-10
                  • 2665

                  #43
                  Originally posted by rsnnh12
                  Correct, but less than 7% of D1 athletic departments are making money overall.

                  The revenue from football and basketball aids a lot of other sports. Athletes should not be paid by the school, because all it would do is raise tuition for everyone else. The issue of endorsements is certainly interesting tho, and initially, it sounds good to me. I'll have to do more reading into it tho.

                  http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/...s+and+Expenses
                  I agree and that's what I meant by only 60 out of 120 teams make money, it just isn't fair to schools like Akron.
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                  • rsnnh12
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-26-10
                    • 3487

                    #44
                    Originally posted by The Bet Master
                    I agree and that's what I meant by only 60 out of 120 teams make money, it just isn't fair to schools like Akron.
                    Sorry, I didn't mean to direct all of that to you. I should've clarified what I meant. I agree with you, and provided the link to back up what you said.
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                    • bb_skoots
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-04-11
                      • 1088

                      #45
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      Exactly. The players still have to be enrolled as students but will be employees of the team. The same 4-5 years of eligibility could apply like now. Then after they use their eligibility they can join the NFL or the NBA if they want. But during their 4-5 years in college they will get paid like minor league baseball players get paid now. The school owns the team and if they want they can even set a salary cap so all the colleges are on equal terms.
                      I dont think the players need to be part of the university at all. What's the purpose of that? My idea is just have an age restriction so they arent stealing players from high school or nfl/cfl/ufl. The idea of a student/athlete is more fantasy than reality at the upper levels of football and basketball. Traditional college football and basketball would still exist at hundreds of colleges and universities such as the Akrons and Buffalos of the world.

                      The university would only have their name on the team, and provide the stadiums and arena. The team owners/boosters would pay for the name and the stadium rental.
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                      • Maxmillion
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-18-10
                        • 2642

                        #46
                        i dont know is paying the athletes solves the problem. I mean if you are going to pay the players so they can (1) buy bling (2) buy fancy cars (2) get tats (3) and party it up I say no way. when was the last time you saw a ncaa violation kid got some cash from agent/booster so they could buy food for their poor family? If that was the case I would actually be play with it. The kids are their worse enemies in the quest to get paid.
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                        • MartinBlank
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-20-08
                          • 8382

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Maxmillion
                          i dont know is paying the athletes solves the problem. I mean if you are going to pay the players so they can (1) buy bling (2) buy fancy cars (2) get tats (3) and party it up I say no way. when was the last time you saw a ncaa violation kid got some cash from agent/booster so they could buy food for their poor family? If that was the case I would actually be play with it. The kids are their worse enemies in the quest to get paid.
                          Exactly. These kids are always going to want more more more. Give them 25K a year----and guess what they will do with it? When they piss through it in 3 weeks----where do they turn? Right back to the very same boosters a pay system is supposed to avoid.

                          And what the hell happens if they are come together and form a union? Do they have collective bargaining rights?

                          If you want to create a system that allows kids to purchase airline tickets to fly home and see their families, or do allow their parents to see them play....or create a voucher system of limited reserve to give them a few bucks for a pizza or something like that------you can make a case for that. But to hand kids 5 figures to play a college sport-----is ridiculous, and will cause more problems than anyone can imagine.
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82815

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Maxmillion
                            i dont know is paying the athletes solves the problem. I mean if you are going to pay the players so they can (1) buy bling (2) buy fancy cars (2) get tats (3) and party it up I say no way. when was the last time you saw a ncaa violation kid got some cash from agent/booster so they could buy food for their poor family? If that was the case I would actually be play with it. The kids are their worse enemies in the quest to get paid.
                            What do you want them to do with their money? Invest them in bonds and stocks? These are 18-22 year olds. They can spend them however they want.
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