End The Charade And Pay College Athletes

[Sunde91]

What happened to OSU is a joke. 5 players received a few hundred dollars at a tattoo parlor and it gets so much scrutiny they get suspended for 5 games and an otherwise top, class coach was forced to resign

So what happens to Miami if this is true? 100x worse than OSU. Death penalty for how many years?

These are not students. A Communications or Kinesiology Major, with 12 units of joke courses a semester and classes they dont show up for, and plans to leave after 3 years, is not a student.

To not allow endorsements for "student athletes" is the best of all. Millions are made off of the notoriety of others and they are not allowed a dime off themselves

[lemart5]

Rofl the video

[iceminers26]

It will never happen, the NCAA is strong on their stand. With that said and as a former NCAA D1 athlete, I agree with you 100 percent. Yes student athletes receive scholarships but lets get serious here, that doesn't help the student pay for rent, food, clothing, etc. While the colleges continue to make bank off these athletes, the athletes themselves will continue to not reek these benefits.. its a shame.

[goofyre]

If you think they only got a few hundred dollars I think you are slightly mistaken. And it's no ones fault but their own that they are taking 12 credits of communications major classes instead of something that might actually help them in the future. I'd sure be happy with free tuition, room and board, and food instead of being in debt like I am now.

[iceminers26]

If you think they only got a few hundred dollars I think you are slightly mistaken. And it's no ones fault but their own that they are taking 12 credits of communications major classes instead of something that might actually help them in the future. I'd sure be happy with free tuition, room and board, and food instead of being in debt like I am now.

18 scholarships a year @ 100,000 a pop only comes out to 1.8 million while the college is making at least 20x this amount off of your team, yeah that sounds fair IMO... get out of here. Yeah its great to get a full ride and have your schooling paid for but lets not kid ourselves here, this is complete BS.

[InTheDrink]

Paying the athletes loves nothing. They might get a few hunge or even a thousand or so in a season.

That won't stop the big time recruits to still grab the big dough

[tkim8404]

I think you have to pay an athlete a certain amount because they're obviously not there for an education and come from poverty stricken homes.

[CanuckG]

I heard the athletes do get some spending money or w/e each month like a grand or two that true?

[Naz18]

I do believe college athletes should be payed, but it's not going to solve the problem....the star players are going to always want more.

[CanuckG]

next thing is though only the top earning schools like texas and shit are going to have all the top players and the bottom feeders will be left with the scraps because they cant afford to pay the top prospects

[Naz18]

next thing is though only the top earning schools like texas and shit are going to have all the top players and the bottom feeders will be left with the scraps because they cant afford to pay the top prospects

hmmm well that's how it is already.....the top prospects go to the top schools...

[CanuckG]

hmmm well that's how it is already.....the top prospects go to the top schools...

and add the possibility of these athletes getting big signing bonuses and you'll see schools like Oregon and Texas win every year instead having schools like Boise State stay competitive

[The Bet Master]

How many teams actually profit from College sports? Very few.

[The Inevitable]

Yeah, I thought athletes do get paid a little bit of spending money. Some one told me my college's basketball team has a spending allowance.

[Glitch]

How many teams actually profit from College sports? Very few.

how many schools i think you mean but it is way more than a few.

[iceminers26]

and add the possibility of these athletes getting big signing bonuses and you'll see schools like Oregon and Texas win every year instead having schools like Boise State stay competitive

I'm not suggesting a pro style pay structure... Colleges should still go by their 18 scholarship full rides in hockey, 60 or so in foots, #? in other sports, etc. The payment would be based and issued in weekly or monthly payments to players and all players would receive the same amount across the nation, doesn't matter if you're left wing or left out, same from top to bottom. And the amount wouldn't be big, just something so the players have enough to pay rent, food, entertainment, etc. on a month to month basis. This would not change any recruiting whatsoever because all players would receive the same amount across the nation. An to reply in advance to disputes that top colleges would have an easier time compensating players compared to bottom level D1 programs, the NCAA will set the amount, something like $75 per player per week.... this would cover gas money, food, some to rent at end of month, etc. I'm not saying make them wealthy, just a little weekly to help in some needed areas.

[iceminers26]

Yeah, I thought athletes do get paid a little bit of spending money. Some one told me my college's basketball team has a spending allowance.

For me, it was all road meals were covered and our team had team meals together so no money ever changed hands... other friends of mine teams did it different where guys could go out on their own and you got $7 for breakfast, $10 for lunch, and $15 for supper.

[wantitall4moi]

They should go the other way actually. Suspend them for time without pay once they turn pro. And make it grandfathered in, so if they get away with it for a few years if they are still in the league and something like this comes out they get dinged. And even if theyre retired or whatever and arent in the game any pension they get get dinged too.

The word missing out of all this is accountability. All these guys want is to get paid, one way or the other. Problem is if you pay them in scholl theyll just want more. You couldnt pay them enough to stop taking other benefits. So paying them isnt going to work.

Start taking away 10-15% of their signing bonus or checks and that would probably do a lot more.

But realistically nothing will change it is too big to kill. Al these mega TV deals just makes it worse. Those are really what is making it worse. because guys arent dumb, they see billions of dollars floating around of course they want some if they think they deserve some. Which of course they feel they do. But there is no way to fix it right now. Other than blowing up all the satellites orbiting the earth. Or by putting all the networks out of business that pay the big fees to the respective bodies (NCAA, BCS, individual schools, etc). Or the governmeent could just make the taxes on all of it about 50% to try and dissuade them from making these kinds of deals, which I am sure would violate all kinds of laws.

college sports, at least the money making ones, is basically the last big money scam left in America, at least until they finally crash the medical insurance one. banking, gone; car making, gone; housing mirage, gone; wall street, going going gone a few times over; but it is all predicated on the American consumer as well. Every time your cable or satellite bill goes up it is directly related to how much these guys spend on it, even if you dont watch it. And it also trickles into the price of stuff youbuy. Maybe only a penny or two but its there. because they have to chargemore for commercials and that gets added onto consumer prices. People dont directly correlate it that way but it might actually have a more direct impact on us than some of the other scams going.

But paying these guys wont make one bit of difference. because it comes right down to the fundamental problem most people with entitlement issues have....greed.

[I/O]

What happened to OSU is a joke. 5 players received a few hundred dollars at a tattoo parlor and it gets so much scrutiny they get suspended for 5 games and an otherwise top, class coach was forced to resign

So what happens to Miami if this is true? 100x worse than OSU. Death penalty for how many years?

These are not students. A Communications or Kinesiology Major, with 12 units of joke courses a semester and classes they dont show up for, and plans to leave after 3 years, is not a student.

To not allow endorsements for "student athletes" is the best of all. Millions are made off of the notoriety of others and they are not allowed a dime off themselves

It will be interesting to see if the Feds go after players (such as Hester) for money they received or gains made due to their affiliation with this guy in order to pay back those who lost in the ponzi scheme he was running. Lotta big names may be exposed here in the near future.

[floridagolfer]

Paying college athletes isn't the answer. That will only make things 100 times worse because it doesn't impact the lowlife agents and hangers-on who are the biggest part of the problem.

[pavyracer]

If they pay them then why call it college sports?

It makes more sense for the colleges to develop their own professional teams and screw the NFL and NBA. For example OSU can have a professional OSU football and basketball team in Columbus area and fans would still fill the stadium and the team would still make money.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

this argument should not happen, because you cannot pay student athletes (in just one or two sports) for one reason; Title 9.

any discussion without realizing that gigantic obstacle is shortsighted.

[jarvol]

Don't be naive. Paying a kid a couple of hundred dollars a month is not going to stop this kind of behavior. Then the Title IX bitches will be out to get the 2nd string female rowing athlete paid the same as the starting QB.

This is just another example of America's problem. Nobody wants to take responsibility for themselves. If a free college eduction, free room and board, free food, free medical care, free tutors, etc isn't enough then don't go to college. Go play semi-pro ball or Arena football or in the D League and see how that lifestyle compares to that of a pampered athlete on a college campus.

[MarlinsFan2212]

Full ride for all D1 student-athletes. Make sure they maintain a 2.7GPA or above. Dont cut checks to families for 30k to pay tuition, just waive the tuition to ensure its used exactly for that.

Regardless of paying, sports like Basketball and Football, are ultra competitive in recruiting, so nice whips, women, and pocket money will never die.

[Glitch]

[bb_skoots]

If they pay them then why call it college sports? It makes more sense for the colleges to develop their own professional teams and screw the NFL and NBA. For example OSU can have a professional OSU football and basketball team in Columbus area and fans would still fill the stadium and the team would still make money.

Interesting idea here. Make the sports teams seperate from the university. Boosters could "own" the team and pay the players and coaches and pay rent for the stadium. Still wear the uniforms too. Have a 18 to 22 age restriction so they will be college aged. I'd watch and gamble on it.

[MartinBlank]

You can not pay them. Not unless you want to completely bankrupt the system.

Once you pay them---they become university employees---and with that, comes issues such as workman's compensation, equal pay for women---and what if they form a union? Then what?

If you pay college kids 25K a year in a giant revenue sport like college football----how much do you pay female swimmers?

How long do you think such a system will last?

[MartinBlank]

What happened to OSU is a joke. 5 players received a few hundred dollars at a tattoo parlor and it gets so much scrutiny they get suspended for 5 games and an otherwise top, class coach was forced to resign

So what happens to Miami if this is true? 100x worse than OSU. Death penalty for how many years?

These are not students. A Communications or Kinesiology Major, with 12 units of joke courses a semester and classes they dont show up for, and plans to leave after 3 years, is not a student.

To not allow endorsements for "student athletes" is the best of all. Millions are made off of the notoriety of others and they are not allowed a dime off themselves

For the record------If Tressel were a "Class Act"----he wouldn't have had to resign. If he stood up and told the truth, Tressel would still be the coach at Ohio State today. And before you roll out words like "Class Act" and "Tressel" in the same sentence, try and take a closer look at what Tressel did when he was at Youngstown State.

This is not Tressel's first NCAA rodeo. He has been down this path before.

[Glitch]

wouldnt star athletes throw less games for paydays aswell if they got some sort of semi-reasonable stipend

[VegasInsider]

Fukk that. They are already getting paid. Is it the universities fault that they don't take advantage of the FREE education?

[face]

maybe there should just be a better semi-pro league or something. school + sports is weird to me, but i guess it's incredibly normal to everyone else.

[The Bet Master]

how many schools i think you mean but it is way more than a few.

I think maybe about 60 of the 120 teams in D1 Football make money.

[I/O]

For the record------If Tressel were a "Class Act"----he wouldn't have had to resign. If he stood up and told the truth, Tressel would still be the coach at Ohio State today. And before you roll out words like "Class Act" and "Tressel" in the same sentence, try and take a closer look at what Tressel did when he was at Youngstown State.

This is not Tressel's first NCAA rodeo. He has been down this path before.

[Sunde91]

not a single comment on no endorsements I see. I suppose because there is no defense to be made whatsoever. others make millions off you, you get nothing (jerseys, video games, etc.).

[rsnnh12]

I think maybe about 60 of the 120 teams in D1 Football make money.

Correct, but less than 7% of D1 athletic departments are making money overall.

The revenue from football and basketball aids a lot of other sports. Athletes should not be paid by the school, because all it would do is raise tuition for everyone else. The issue of endorsements is certainly interesting tho, and initially, it sounds good to me. I'll have to do more reading into it tho.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Behind+the+Blue+Disk/Behind+the+Blue+Disk+-+FBS+Athletic+Revenues+and+Expenses