Has anyone ever played Baccarat in the casino?

[supra23]

I actually stumbled upon this game recently and it seems like a good game. If you bring say $5000 to the table and only aim for like $300 a day, nothing more nothing less i think it would be doable...anyone agree!

I came to this realization cuz this guy i met at a casino actually did this same exact thing, he would always buy in for $5000 and only aim for between $300-$500 a day for 3 days a week, and he would never push it to make more in a day....and he said he would always come out ahead in the long run. He actually opened up a few bars and what not with the extra earnings he made in Baccarat alongside his career job.

[RealSlimShady]

While the casino has a smaller edge in bacarrat than other table games, the casino still has an edge. In the long run, you'll lose.

[Ganchrow]

he would always buy in for $5000 and only aim for between $300-$500 a day for 3 days a week, and he would never push it to make more in a day....and he said he would always come out ahead in the long run. He actually opened up a few bars and what not with the extra earnings he made in Baccarat alongside his career job.

You probably shouldn't count on this particular outcome.

[pat venditto]

any game in the casino is unbeatable in the long run besides sports and poker. dont play casino games for money. buy in for $100 and have fun

[supra23]

any game in the casino is unbeatable in the long run besides sports and poker. dont play casino games for money. buy in for $100 and have fun

...so your saying i have a better chance with sportsbetting than i do with baccarat?....i somewhat agree with that, cuz instead of going to the boat i was also thinking of funding my sportsbook account with the $5000 and just do money management bets like only $100 each bet

[Brock Landers]

i play it all the time on thegreek's site and i set to win 25 to 50 bux a day. I do pretty much that when i please.

Love playing it in the casino too.

[betplom]

Yes, one time back in 1995 I was at Casino Windsor (acrosss from Detroit, MI) and I started with $190 at 9PM, ran it up to *almost* $5K at 11PM, played until 7AM, when I didn't have enough for a coffee.

I rarely play the game, 'cause I rarely go to casinos.

[BurtRapp]

Go to Baccarat and follow the Asian with the most money at the table. LOCK

[pat venditto]

yes sports betting is beatable in the long run if u do it right. casino games are not beatable

[supra23]

Go to Baccarat and follow the Asian with the most money at the table. LOCK

lol.ya thats typically what it is, all asians playing this game, sometimes i wonder where they get all their money from!

[madmaxx]

lol.ya thats typically what it is, all asians playing this game, sometimes i wonder where they get all their money from!

same with pai gow

[Illusion]

I love playing baccarat. I usually fade the asian players and clean house.

[BurtRapp]

I'm not sure you can fade asians and clean house at that game. have you seen the little notebooks they use. They have play history for at least the last 5-8 hours. They are masters.

[supra23]

I love playing baccarat. I usually fade the asian players and clean house.

Hey illusion u said uve cleaned house huh?!how much have u actually won so far playing if u don't mind me asking...and also do u use any type of money managing when u play

[pokernut9999]

All the Asians in Biloxi went broke playing the game.

[supra23]

...just an update with this guys, just came back from the boat today and was there for a good two hours maybe and bought in for $2500 and won $300 to $2800...it was also pretty funny cuz when i was at the window collecting my money the lady counted my money so fast back to me that she gave me an extra $100 lol..so i walked out with $2900, not bad again, just patience and spotbetting with this seems golden!

[Ganchrow]

...just an update with this guys, just came back from the boat today and was there for a good two hours maybe and bought in for $2500 and won $300 to $2800...it was also pretty funny cuz when i was at the window collecting my money the lady counted my money so fast back to me that she gave me an extra $100 lol..so i walked out with $2900, not bad again, just patience and spotbetting with this seems golden!

While Baccarat may well be funm just remember that this is strictly a -EV game and the more you bet the more you can expect to lose.

But if you enjoy it, and you can afford lose ... then by all means plow on ahead.

Just don't expect a net profit by continuing to do this. Such would be unwise.

[rm18]

i never knew this game though i seen the name many times, but yeh the odds are bad actually

+100
-110
+800

like a soccer game if I understand correctly

[supra23]

While Baccarat may well be funm just remember that this is strictly a -EV game and the more you bet the more you can expect to lose.

But if you enjoy it, and you can afford lose ... then by all means plow on ahead.

Just don't expect a net profit by continuing to do this. Such would be unwise.

ya i understand that, thats why once i hit my set goal of $300 i always leave no matter what even if i am tempted to bet again, cuz i know how staying longer than you should in a casino just spells trouble so i know walking out ahead is always key.

I only go 3 days a week as well so i don't push my luck either...we'l see how this continues to work out...

[supra23]

i never knew this game though i seen the name many times, but yeh the odds are bad actually

+100
-110
+800

like a soccer game if I understand correctly

ya the odds are pretty much 50/50 coin toss, its funny cuz u got everyone in the casino playing this game using those damn scorecards, i just find it humorous,lol but ya i was always good at randomly picking true and false questions in my high school test days so this game should be right up my alley hahah

[Ganchrow]

i never knew this game though i seen the name many times, but yeh the odds are bad actually

+100
-110
+800

like a soccer game if I understand correctly

Actually the +800 bet is on a tie. If the tie wins, the two other bets push.

For 6-deck:

The "player" bet pays out at +100 with casino hold of about 1.24%.

The bank bet pays out at about -105.3 with casino hold of about 1.06%.

The tie bet pays out at +800 with casino hold of about 14.4%.

[thezbar]

i never knew this game though i seen the name many times, but yeh the odds are bad actually

+100
-110
+800

like a soccer game if I understand correctly

+100 Player
-105 Banker
+800 Tie
This casino game is one of the better ones for the gambler. Smaller house edge than many of the other games
If I were to walk into a casino and place one bet only It would be on the Banker, slightly better than a 50% chance of winning that bet. The 5% commission I'm willing to pay. The major problem for gamblers in this game is that people tend to wager larger ammounts of $ than they should. The longer the play the greater that house edge will eat away the bankroll. As with all casino games luck is an element, there are no sure things!

[AgainstAllOdds]

Now I dont know how true this is but someone once told me to always go with the banker...because the banker is essentially "the house" and as we all know, the house doesnt lose in the long run...However doing this blindly most likely wont get you very far, but I can see the logic in the statement.

[LVHerbie]

All the Asians in Biloxi went broke playing the game.

Last time I was in Mississippi I was thinking to myself "there aren't many Asians here"... now it makes sense...

[Justin7]

While Baccarat may well be fun just remember that this is strictly a -EV game and the more you bet the more you can expect to lose.

But if you enjoy it, and you can afford lose ... then by all means plow on ahead.

Just don't expect a net profit by continuing to do this. Such would be unwise.

It's not often I get to disagree with Ganch, but this is a rare opportunity

If you never bet until near the end of the shoe, and there is good penetration, there are times when the tie bet is +EV. You can make at LEAST $1/hour doing this, although it is a tad boring making one bet every couple hours, and having a huge volatility. I don't remember how awful it is, but only that it can be "beaten". Of course, if you want to make real money, listen to Ganch and ignore Baccarat. Bet sports, or play Blackjack (or even Poker).

[Ganchrow]

It's not often I get to disagree with Ganch, but this is a rare opportunity

If you never bet until near the end of the shoe, and there is good penetration, there are times when the tie bet is +EV. You can make at LEAST $1/hour doing this, although it is a tad boring making one bet every couple hours, and having a huge volatility. I don't remember how awful it is, but only that it can be "beaten". Of course, if you want to make real money, listen to Ganch and ignore Baccarat. Bet sports, or play Blackjack (or even Poker).

Yes, I was neglecting the possibility of counting cards in Baccarat (the even/odd counting method -- favorable situations to my knowledge only occur once every few thousand hands), which even under the best of circumstances regarding deck penetration, just as you've pointed out, implies a very small hourly rate even for the most disciplined.

I just thought it best not to give out any false hope.

Nevertheless, point well taken, and in a more complete treatment on the topic I certainly should have mentioned it.

[Al Masters]

Supra23, i believe that $5000 to make $300 won't work in the
end, although you'll have a winning record, eventually,
be it a week or 2 or3 or a month, or 7 months later your score
card will look something like this.

MONDAY +300
TUESDAY+300
FRIDAY+300
SUNDAY +300
until whenever, then one day it will say
TUESDAY-$5000
Then after that happens,the mindset changes gears, chances are
your next trip to the casino is not about grinding $300 but getting
a piece of your 5k back, which in turn, can lead to major disaster.

Basically your laying 5k to make $300 three times a week, your a big fav
every time you walk in the joint,HOWEVER.......and however will eventually occur.

[supra23]

Supra23, i believe that $5000 to make $300 won't work in the
end, although you'll have a winning record, eventually,
be it a week or 2 or3 or a month, or 7 months later your score
card will look something like this.

MONDAY +300
TUESDAY+300
FRIDAY+300
SUNDAY +300
until whenever, then one day it will say
TUESDAY-$5000
Then after that happens,the mindset changes gears, chances are
your next trip to the casino is not about grinding $300 but getting
a piece of your 5k back, which in turn, can lead to major disaster.

Basically your laying 5k to make $300 three times a week, your a big fav
every time you walk in the joint,HOWEVER.......and however will eventually occur.

I totally understand what your saying Al, but i would never stay until i lost the whole $5000 in a given night, i leave once i lost between $700 to $1000 of that $5000, cuz i cud come back another day.

The guy i spoke with about this also told me out of the 3 times a week 12 times a month he goes to the boat to hit his quota of $300 everytime...he said he would only have maybe 1 losing day of that 12 times he went, so don't get me wrong hes not perfect either but he thinks long term profit which is what i also think now that he tells me it. And that one time he has a losing session he only loses between that amount of $750 and $1000 and then walks to try another day.

Its crazy cuz every mother effer in that boat bets every single hand on baccarat and they dont pick their spots, and when they see me sitting out hand after hand after hand until i see a bet i like then i put money down i feel thats what sets me apart right now

[jjgold]

Guys no one would work if it was that easy, your getting lucky right now, the game has no skill.

[Al Masters]

I totally understand what your saying Al, but i would never stay until i lost the whole $5000 in a given night, i leave once i lost between $700 to $1000 of that $5000, cuz i cud come back another day.

The guy i spoke with about this also told me out of the 3 times a week 12 times a month he goes to the boat to hit his quota of $300 everytime...he said he would only have maybe 1 losing day of that 12 times he went, so don't get me wrong hes not perfect either but he thinks long term profit which is what i also think now that he tells me it. And that one time he has a losing session he only loses between that amount of $750 and $1000 and then walks to try another day.

Its crazy cuz every mother effer in that boat bets every single hand on baccarat and they dont pick their spots, and when they see me sitting out hand after hand after hand until i see a bet i like then i put money down i feel thats what sets me apart right now

Hmm, if you leave when you lose $700to1000, whats the point
of bringing 5k to the casino?

[Bet Shooter]

This strategy will lose in the long-run. That is why the %'s Ganch posted let's them build these huge buildings. From people thinking this way. The longer you play the greater your losses. Remember as you go out futher in time you are approaching a point where you are going to be down 1.?? % (Depending on Bank or Player bet) of THE TOTAL AMOUNT YOU HAVE WAGERED UP TILL THAT POINT! You will have ups and downs in the begining, but if you play those games long enough, the time will smooth out those peaks and valleys and start to approach the % losses I put in Caps above.

Please Stay away from this game.

Only games with a true edge in the Casino are BJ if you count cards LIKE AN EXPERT. I have meet many people that think they can count, but the have no clue. Poker is the other. That is because you are hopefully playing against a less skilled player than yourself and you can work the odds into your favor. That's it people. Stay away from the rest of the games except for recreation only. GL

[compaqDikk]

look what happened to his fishHead and his 1,000,000 video poker empire. need i say more

[pimike]

Supra23, i believe that $5000 to make $300 won't work in the
end, although you'll have a winning record, eventually,
be it a week or 2 or3 or a month, or 7 months later your score
card will look something like this.

MONDAY +300
TUESDAY+300
FRIDAY+300
SUNDAY +300
until whenever, then one day it will say
TUESDAY-$5000
Then after that happens,the mindset changes gears, chances are
your next trip to the casino is not about grinding $300 but getting
a piece of your 5k back, which in turn, can lead to major disaster.

Basically your laying 5k to make $300 three times a week, your a big fav
every time you walk in the joint,HOWEVER.......and however will eventually occur.

So true been there done that

[supra23]

Hmm, if you leave when you lose $700to1000, whats the point
of bringing 5k to the casino?

...its more of a mental thing when i bring the $5000, cuz if you bring that much and u set it out on the table u tend to bet ALOT smarter and only spot bet a few times, also the amounts you bet are realistic to what you wish to accomplish without doing to much harm, like $50 and $100 dollar bets....now if you were to bring $500 to win $300 and say u start losing a few here and there then u get caught up in that im frustrated i wanna win it all back mode and u mite just throw it all up there to double up which turns out for the worst most of the time...

btw guys just came back again from the boat today and made my $300, lol, the pitboss looked at me all crazy and said thats it lol, he saw i was in there for maybe 30 mins or so. I hate how they ask u all the time for a damn players card. Fu*k that shit, im not here for your free bs, im in and out thank you. So thats $900 i made this week already on 3 days, on to next week. Il tell u guys if i encounter a bad day, but knock on wood lets hope that doesnt come.lol

[supra23]

Guys no one would work if it was that easy, your getting lucky right now, the game has no skill.

...and jj your right i know its luck, most of gambling is, this game can be played by monkeys and apes, i just feel i have a very very slight edge the way im doing it, but shhhhh im trying to keep the luck in my favor