What happened to no Store price increases?

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  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61630

    #1
    What happened to no Store price increases?
    I thought SBR announced no more store price increases this year?

    The other day I checked the store and saw $280 of 5 Dimes cash was 3030 points.

    Today it now costs 3980 points for $280 worth! (for 2 x $140 cash which is now max amount)

    That's about a 30% increase...
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  • iceminers26
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-13-08
    • 15600

    #2
    business as usual
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    • Bo$$ Bet$
      Restricted User
      • 07-08-10
      • 3062

      #3
      Originally posted by iceminers26
      business as usual
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      • Iwinyourmoney
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-18-07
        • 18368

        #4
        Originally posted by iceminers26
        business as usual
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        • LUCKYCHUCK
          SBR MVP
          • 11-19-09
          • 1059

          #5
          i thihk they should put back more rewards for nonpros
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          • iceminers26
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-13-08
            • 15600

            #6
            Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
            kind of how I feel when you make 6 threads a day about the bash
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            • MBENZ
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-07-07
              • 5238

              #7
              I think the no price increase was to the US players that can't buy Freeplays or Cash at the store.
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              • Glitch
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-08-09
                • 11795

                #8
                sounds like the prices didnt increase and they have just changed what they offer. if youre selling candy and the store from which you get your supply stops selling the big pack and only sells the smaller packs, you would be victimized in the same fashion.
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                • gangeriver
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-23-09
                  • 2138

                  #9
                  $250 is 2750 points if you get a new account...it is almost equal with $280 /3030
                  Actually, 7,8 points makes $1 last year. I'm wrong? we should pay over 10 points for $1 this year
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61630

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Glitch
                    sounds like the prices didnt increase and they have just changed what they offer. if youre selling candy and the store from which you get your supply stops selling the big pack and only sells the smaller packs, you would be victimized in the same fashion.
                    So if you will sell me 2lbs of candy for $10 yesterday and want $13 for it today, because you decide to only sell the smaller package sizes, there is no price increase?

                    If they wanted to stick by their word they would make the highest available package remain the same price per dollar.

                    And if forced to reduce the book cash amounts, they could also reduce the price they sell/buy points for to be more in line with the new prices if they were at all genuine about the no-price increase claim.
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                    • Glitch
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-08-09
                      • 11795

                      #11
                      no if i decide to sell a 2 pound bag to anyone who wants to buy it yesterday and also sell 1 pound bags to whoever wants to buy those- then today i decide as a business decision to discontinue those 2-pound bulk "value packs", that is completely within my rights as a seller. it is a reduction of merchandise not a reduction of price.

                      and if they were 'forced' to reduce the book cash amounts, it wouldnt make sense to adjust the discount to where it would be if you were selling more. the reason the discount is there is the buyer is buying more.
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                      • infamousbacardi
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 4556

                        #12
                        Got some Econ going on in here this morning baby!! Haha. They are constantly messing with prices and who can and can't get shiitt from the store, etc. Nothing surprises me here now in that regards. Total lack of consistency.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61630

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Glitch
                          no if i decide to sell a 2 pound bag to anyone who wants to buy it yesterday and also sell 1 pound bags to whoever wants to buy those- then today i decide as a business decision to discontinue those 2-pound bulk "value packs", that is completely within my rights as a seller. it is a reduction of merchandise not a reduction of price.

                          and if they were 'forced' to reduce the book cash amounts, it wouldnt make sense to adjust the discount to where it would be if you were selling more. the reason the discount is there is the buyer is buying more.
                          I get your logic... but think it's a technical justification. And would only be used as a last resort by a store keeper who knows they are actually going back on their guarantee.

                          I would not have even mentioned it if they had upped the prices by 5 or even 10%... but 30% is just saying "we don't give a shit about what we said last month" to me.
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82839

                            #14
                            It's OK to have unannounced price increases. But do you know what drives the customers to the store? A sale. Why not have a one day sale on select items?
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                            • Doc JS
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-15-06
                              • 6885

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              It's OK to have unannounced price increases. But do you know what drives the customers to the store? A sale. Why not have a one day sale on select items?
                              Pavy is a businessman!
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                              • Glitch
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-08-09
                                • 11795

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                I get your logic... but think it's a technical justification. And would only be used as a last resort by a store keeper who knows they are actually going back on their guarantee.

                                I would not have even mentioned it if they had upped the prices by 5 or even 10%... but 30% is just saying "we don't give a shit about what we said last month" to me.

                                and i also get your point that the price has increased because to get this item, we need to pay an increased price.

                                if a store is selling a million fake mustaches for 10,000$ to one buyer, then they discontinue million-mustache packs at the request of the mustache factory- you cant expect them to start selling you them 100 for 1 dollar.
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61630

                                  #17
                                  Nah, not at the same price. But an effective 30% increase is too much. Lowering the price of the largest package, or devaluing the currency (lowering buy/sell rates), would seem to be the reasonable thing to do if they were forced to drop the max size, given the recent guarantee.

                                  Although if the value of advertising on SBR has actually dropped by 30% with the new rules for Yanks,,, there is probably not much they can do. You'd think 5 Dimes is one place that had benefited a lot though.

                                  It smells of opportunism to me.
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                                  • cant call it
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-29-10
                                    • 8817

                                    #18
                                    Damn I cant buy it anyway here in the US
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                                    • Wulfman14
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 8869

                                      #19
                                      given that they said there would be no further price increases this year, they def. should have adjusted their prices for the smaller packages. this is a huge increase. i understand why sbr did it but then do not make guarantees about no more price increases this year .
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                                      • 70kgman
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-31-10
                                        • 4354

                                        #20
                                        The canon power shot recently got inflated about 1600 points (about a 66% increase) without warning a month or two ago. Shouldn't electronics be the one thing in the store that goes down in price as their model/technology becomes older and outdated?
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                                        • Glitch
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-08-09
                                          • 11795

                                          #21
                                          they didnt decrease a price or replace something with something else. they removed one item that they did not want to offer anymore. the larger, previously utilizable amount.

                                          dont work for sbr and dont even have any sbr points but it just makes sense to me-

                                          rand paul (ron paul's son) thinks privately owned businesses should be able to refuse service to people for their race or sexual preference because its Their business and they should be able to run it how they want.

                                          And you guys- on the other end of the spectrum believe businesses should not even be able to cease offering a product or service when they deem it a wise decision to do so...the smaller package isnt more expensive, the bigger package was discounted, then later- discontinued.
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                                          • Nookx
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-17-07
                                            • 486

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 70kgman
                                            The canon power shot recently got inflated about 1600 points (about a 66% increase) without warning a month or two ago. Shouldn't electronics be the one thing in the store that goes down in price as their model/technology becomes older and outdated?
                                            You would think so....
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                                            • excel
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 03-25-10
                                              • 4270

                                              #23
                                              John had to offset some of his BkofAma losses... BAU
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61630

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Glitch
                                                they didnt decrease a price or replace something with something else. they removed one item that they did not want to offer anymore. the larger, previously utilizable amount.

                                                dont work for sbr and dont even have any sbr points but it just makes sense to me-

                                                rand paul (ron paul's son) thinks privately owned businesses should be able to refuse service to people for their race or sexual preference because its Their business and they should be able to run it how they want.

                                                And you guys- on the other end of the spectrum believe businesses should not even be able to cease offering a product or service when they deem it a wise decision to do so...the smaller package isnt more expensive, the bigger package was discounted, then later- discontinued.
                                                I think you're ignoring the bit about the no price increase guarantee Glitch.

                                                Sportsbook cash isn't an item that is cheaper to supply/store in bulk. Try and tell a water carrier that the price hasn't changed when you now require him to make 2 trips to fill up his truck, and the cost will total 30% more... because we decided to stop selling water by the full truck amount. Wouldn't you feel like there was a bit of trickery in that explanation?

                                                If a business makes an offer that entices you to buy a membership they don't get to renege on that offer a month or so later in the real world, not legally anyway.

                                                I'm not all worked up over it or anything btw. Just kinda disappointed.
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                                                • Wulfman14
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 8869

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                  I think you're ignoring the bit about the no price increase guarantee Glitch.

                                                  Sportsbook cash isn't an item that is cheaper to supply/store in bulk. Try and tell a water carrier that the price hasn't changed when you now require him to make 2 trips to fill up his truck, and the cost will total 30% more... because we decided to stop selling water by the full truck amount. Wouldn't you feel like there was a bit of trickery in that explanation?

                                                  If a business makes an offer that entices you to buy a membership they don't get to renege on that offer a month or so later in the real world, not legally anyway.

                                                  I'm not all worked up over it or anything btw. Just kinda disappointed.
                                                  bingo, i dont understand how glitch is even comparing the two . that idea does not apply here. the price has still gone up for the cash. it is as simple as that. these are not paper towels or soda bottles where if you buy them idividually they are more expensive. these are electronically credited cash plays. sbr simply should not make any more guarantees that there will be no price increase for said amount of time.
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                                                  • Wulfman14
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 8869

                                                    #26
                                                    actually i see what glitch is saying now, bigger sportsbook cash amounts were offered at a discounted rate. sbr simply eliminated those discounts . so in reality there was no price increase. but we are also getting less cash for our pts. different ways to look at it. both are correct.
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                                                    • Iwinyourmoney
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-18-07
                                                      • 18368

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                      kind of how I feel when you make 6 threads a day about the bash
                                                      Ok Ive prob made 6 threads total about the bash getting info about it. Little jealous you cant even afford to to stay at a super 8?

                                                      Never heard of ya.

                                                      Go count your change and become a pro. We need to keep business as usual. Go crawl back to whatever subforum you came from.
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                                                      • Kindred
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-09-08
                                                        • 2901

                                                        #28
                                                        at least you can still buy sportsbook cash
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                                                        • SBR_John
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 16471

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LUCKYCHUCK
                                                          i thihk they should put back more rewards for nonpros
                                                          We did add a nice SBR baseball cap recently.
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                                                          • Bill Dozer
                                                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                            • 07-12-05
                                                            • 10894

                                                            #30
                                                            Actually the prices went down for book cash. The increments went up to bring em in line with the moneybookers buy/sell points options. Now youre buying at costcos instead of walmart.

                                                            Also rollovers down across the board. cmon guys, wheres our +EVers
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                                                            • iceminers26
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-13-08
                                                              • 15600

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                                                              Ok Ive prob made 6 threads total about the bash getting info about it. Little jealous you cant even afford to to stay at a super 8? Never heard of ya. Go count your change and become a pro. We need to keep business as usual. Go crawl back to whatever subforum you came from.
                                                              You're too easy so just going to take a pass here... don't want to destroy the little self esteem you may have left.
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                                                              • gryfyn1
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-30-10
                                                                • 3285

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bill Dozer

                                                                Also rollovers down across the board. cmon guys, wheres our +EVers

                                                                I guess they all live in the US and are getting screwed.
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                                                                • onlooker
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 36572

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                                  We did add a nice SBR baseball cap recently.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61630

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                                    Actually the prices went down for book cash. The increments went up to bring em in line with the moneybookers buy/sell points options.
                                                                    How do you figure the price went down Bill?

                                                                    $280 was 3030, or 10.8 points to the dollar.
                                                                    $140 is now 1990 or 14.21 points to the dollar.

                                                                    Your selling them at ~ 7 points to the dollar... that means you have a 100% premium on sportsbook cash now!
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                                                                    • Cookie Monster
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-05-08
                                                                      • 2251

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I understand this is SBR business and they manage it as they want, but this is silly.

                                                                      With the effective price increases, it is now bad business to buy a sportsbook cash. Let's see: You can use your 2000 points to deposit $140 on a sportsbook (with a 3x rollover), or you can sell the points for $142 (100 EUR) direct to the moneybookers account, and now you can keep the cash or deposit it at the sportsbook with a reload bonus (and similar rollover), or without bonus and rollover. Obviously, selling the points is now the better option.

                                                                      The sportsbook cash were encouraged with a fair discount, due to the rollover and the business between SBR and sportsbook (advertisements and referrals). Now SBR is discouraging buying them. Beats me.
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