I make money on soccer, tennis, and hockey. And I lose most of it on baseball. Probably break even with basketball and football. One of my best buds from college has made five figures with football a year for the past decade in football, and everytime he tries another sport with a new system, he gets raped. As other posters pointed out, we're all good at 'capping different things.
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I've never had a losing nfl season... (4 years)>54%Comment -
I've shown a profit three of the past four years. Why? Because I learned from my mistakes in the past. I"m a recreational player and that's it. I learned my limits. My betting structure is season long so I can with stand poor weeks as that will happen. I take the nfl in small doses. College ball is my thing. Second half players are my go to tactic, it can be as much as half my season handle. I watch games and play the contests. Win or lose its still a blast. Let the games begin.Comment -
man. I said I bet 1k on that series price before game 6 started. I lost about 7 thousand dollars on game 6 of the finals and that 2.5 on the series overall at various points. I'm sure I got destroyed on here. Couldn't believe it the end to that game 6. I still haven't recovered from that. I haven't bet anything big in months.
Football who's looking good? Ravens look like they are not being taken seriously. I see them as the pats main threat in the afc this year.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Oh thank you so much... after Timmy and the Giants fukked me it was nice to read this and remember those awesome days in June riding the Dallas Mavs... all the way to the end the last bet cashing that DAL ML + Over parlay. Plus seeing James fail over and over (live in Ohio so u know the deal)
Just thinking about it I hope the NBA somehow has a full season!
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want to make money in MLB ?
just fade a few pro touts who are known for being shitty, its what i do, i dont have some massive stack of cash but i got a sizeable addition to what i had in late march 2011
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Why would books want to lose an NBA season?Comment -
So all the guys in this thread that say they are winning i dont see where they are posting picks and showing a profit so far.Comment -
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The NBA could get locked out.Comment -
47% of all vegas profits came from nfl last two years, followed by Nba 22% and bases 12%..sys it allComment -
this moron op talks like hes better than others but all he does is constantly chasing out of burialComment -
Books get crushed in baseball because guys like me with brains make money every day we play. The only trick to baseball is to keep all your options open so you cant win at one book over and over again or get caught in every book in town 5 times a day with a rotation book in your hand. Especially if youre betting serious amounts of money.
NFL is the biggest suckers game going, because it is set up that way. Worst scoring system, worst vig, worst point spreads, worst everything. Then they change the rules every year and that effects how every stat and piece of data you used can be looked at.
Basically football season is the only time of the year books can make a scheduled profit. It is also why so many of them can offer big time free contests that pay freeloaders 5 or 6 figure pay outs, because that is a drop in the bucket to how much they make off it with tourists coming in to town and betting their favorite team at the worst number ever imaginable.
And it isnt like the NFL or football in general isnt THAT hard to beat, it just has bad pay outs, not enough games to make money on, and really justnot the effort.
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that doesnt mean NFL is the toughest idiot. it's because nfl is the most popular sport so logically it should follow that the most action during the year comes from NFL. if 90% of bettors only bet NFL then vegas will make the most money during NFL season. this would apply if u swap out 'NFL' with 'NBA' or 'MLB' or 'NHL'
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It's funny, but I have been doing well in NCAA (My best sport), but breaking even so far in NFL......Everyone says books win much more money later on in the NFL season, but I seem to do much better every year in the NFL from like week 7 or 8- week 16........I have been in a yearly pool with about 35 people where we pick the spreads of every game and came in 1st overall 2 years ago and 3rd last season......Both years I started off shitty but crushed it in the 2nd half of the season......Anyone have a clue why it is?Comment -
That can be true. However, it depends on what your goals are and the way you approach it.
If you consistently beat the closer in football, just like any other sport, you will show a profit over the long haul. I agree that the amount of possible wagers, and thus your ability to churn over your BR, is limited, but if you are making consistent +ev wagers and your goals are to make a profit as opposed to becoming rich, you can do well.
If you are disciplined, don't bet into bad numbers and make sure you never cross key numbers on sides or totals, you can make a profit. You might not become rich, but you can show a modest 10x-20x with minimal risk by flatbetting (with rare multiple unit plays). If your unit size is large enough, 10x-20x can be quite profitable.
The goal is to show a profit in the majority/all of the available sports markets in which you invest.
Football is just one of those markets. Therefore, if you approach sports investing with the goal of profiting modestly in each market, as opposed to putting all your eggs in one market (i.e. football), you can make a nice profit each year from the collective which result from each market.Comment -
I do best in NFL. All games matter. NBA = Never Bet Anything and MLB you have to pick good spots.Comment -
Please not another 'if you beat the closer' guy. Seriously I have challenged every guy who ever said that to answer one simple question...how often was the closer the BEST number available on the game? I know it, but I doubt more than 10 people that bets sports anywhere know it. Most really dont care, even though they live and die by the mantra. But the first guy that tells me when the closer will be the best number possible will be the first, and he wouldnt even have to be right because no one has even bothered trying to guess because they dont have a clue, but they know I know and they dont want to look dumb. So they just toe that company line and keep regurgitating the same rhetoric.
Also +ev, most guys dont know what that is.if you asked a thousand guys who bet sports what +ev was I would bet only 25 of them would give the full correct answer. There might be a hundred or so with a partially right answer, but there would also be 800 or more without a frigging clue. But because they all agree amongst themselves then they feel safe that they are correct.
Also getting rich is all relative. I told how much I made when I was betting sports full time and it was enough that people claimed I was lying. But whatever I couldnt care less. The thing they dont have is common sense or the brain power to understand. or the opposite hey have too many brains and think they know everything and arent willing to learn and listen to people who actually DID it, and didnt just theorize and talk about it.
I have been google mapped, IP address stalked, had my photo on a couple board sin the past, which led to having guys chase me around Vegas, and all the crazy stuff people will do to try and not learn something but try and debunk someone or show them living in a shack when they claim to live in a 2 or 3 million dollar house. Which back then was below average price for the neighborhood I was in.
But talking about it never does any good, and I could invite people over and write them a book and a diagram on how to do it, like one of those late night infomercial guys, except my stuff would actually work, and they would still fail at it. That is just the way it is. Because something would happen and they would go back to bad habits and let the profits corrupt them and they would try and make a play beyond their capability and get buried. I did it I tutored a guy for 3 years, he made money every single day, never had a losing day on the script I wrote him That was maybe over 850 days total of never losing money. But I finally stopped doing it because he was still always broke. And the guy wasnt a dummy and he was surely smarter than the average poster on an internet forum. But he still didnt have the mentality to do it. basically it is called greed. And greed is why the whole world is where it is today and only going to get worse.Comment -
lol at anyone who thinks lakerboy makes money. this guy loses more then brock.Comment -
A. I don't care about you or all the nonsense you just wrote. What does any of your bragadocious bullshit have to do with beating the closer or nfl lines?
B. The claims you make above could be true, but only if you are arbing every single play and never letting a wager ride. However, because mlb does not go year round and your ability to arb is limited in other markets, I would say your claim that you made profit every single day for three years is suspect at best.
C. You have a horrible, elitist attitude. If you think your methods are the only way to show a profit, you are one of the more ignorant posters on this site....which is really saying something.
D. If you don't think beating the efficiency of the pinny closer and getting the best available price on a consistent basis is important, then its clear you are an "old timer" who has not kept up with continuing education requirements.
I have a feeling you are an older individual that likes to brag about past success because you no current accomplishments upon which to hang your hat. The issue we were supposed to discuss was ability to profit in the nfl. Instead, you try to cloud the issue by responding with nonsense that may or may not have happened a long, long time ago. Moreover, you try to assert that you are the only person with a true understanding of expected value without providing any substance as to what you believe that is. Sorry, but you really make yourself come off as someone who is "all talk". I am looking substantive content, not old war stories about how much money you have made.Comment -
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Baseball and Hockey have always made me the most money. Bankroll management is a must. NFL always kills guys without any control, because they wait all week for the game and convince themselves they have found a "lock". They pound it and then as well all know, its a crapshoot at best.Comment -
He responded with well thought out points. That is far better than most here. Maybe its to hard for you to understand what he said, considering most of the people around here respond by calling someone a "homo" or bragging about something totally unrelated.
I don't understand why a multi millionaire would come on to SBR for any reason. The real question that should be asked is how much of those millions did "wantitall" give to charity or helping to feed his relatives? If money is no object for someone, I always think they should be using some to better the world. "Tutoring" one guy doesn't count.Comment -
What up...haven't seen you around. Hope all is well.
My problem with his response was that it had nothing to do with the issue at hand. This thread was about approaches to and individual chances of beating the sharpest of all markets--the NFL.
I had read some of his previous posts and he seemed like a knowledgeable guy. I was hoping to hear his take via a substantive response. Instead he just responded with a self-serving, egotistical response which was centered around his alleged superior knowledge of base concepts of sports investing and a needless diatribe about his alleged past success. Very disappointing to say the least.
Oh, and by the way, if you think that my response was an essay or took more than three minutes to draft, you need to get back in the classroom
Good luck on your wagers this week...who ya taking?
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I know a couple people who are very rich and they have no families and they get very bored. Not everyone who's rich is a materialistic urbanite. For me, there's a lot more fulfillment when I gamble than just the idea of making money. I don't know.
lol. what i have learned in my time at this forum is to just ignore people like that. you can tell who is willing to have a intellectual debate and others who just want to stir the pot.
What up...haven't seen you around. Hope all is well.
My problem with his response was that it had nothing to do with the issue at hand. This thread was about approaches to and individual chances of beating the sharpest of all markets--the NFL.
I had read some of his previous posts and he seemed like a knowledgeable guy. I was hoping to hear his take via a substantive response. Instead he just responded with a self-serving, egotistical response which was centered around his alleged superior knowledge of base concepts of sports investing and a needless diatribe about his alleged past success. Very disappointing to say the least.
Oh, and by the way, if you think that my response was an essay or took more than three minutes to draft, you need to get back in the classroom
Good luck on your wagers this week...who ya taking?
i think pits looks good despite their o line problems. they have the ability to counter that inconsistency with with 3 and 5 step drops. Ben won't make the same mistake of holding the ball and trying to create. I think he gets the ball out of his hands quick this week, and I trust their defense. I already put 300 on them on the ML +185. I also think Philly will bounce back, Tampa will slap Indy on Monday night (blowout), and books seem to be thinking AZ will win. I think the majority of the road favorites may cover this week. There's always a few weeks where the public banks LakerBoy so it doesn't really matter what the square side is.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Color it any way you want.... Clown
the nfl is the most efficient market bar none, the set the line Sunday...and let the market correct itself ALL week.....the power ratings are formula driven and are very strong, and coupled with the fact of the key numbers ie (3-7-10-14) sides
and totals (41.5 38.5 ) not sure on these.......makes it a very tough proposition......the "back" and "front door" is open..a good deal of the time.......much rather take a chance on a line that is set and goes off daily, than one a week old.........the sheer volume of games, in college football, college basketball, lends itself to more line mistakes.....l agree more volume more sucker public.....but...you cannot compare the sportsComment -
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but when they are buried by the end of sept they will say i cant wait for the nba.
they hate bases but its the only game where there is money to be made for sure while nfl and nba are hard to beat. nfl preseason is good.
the best part is that when they lose there rolls they might not even have nba to turn to. books will love it if there is a full season lost by the nba.
I thought the public always wins and only morons fade the public
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