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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82863

    #1
    Question for baseball gurus
    How often do winning dogs also hit the -1.5 RL? Is it like 50% or less.

    Thanks.
  • element1286
    Restricted User
    • 02-25-08
    • 3370

    #2
    I don't know, but I would think it is more like 30-35%.
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    • BeatTheJerk
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-19-07
      • 31794

      #3
      thats a great question ......... i don't have an accurate figure but i would say ...........40-44%
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      • BeatTheJerk
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-19-07
        • 31794

        #4
        just by what i see thusfar through the year by following mlb
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        • BeatTheJerk
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-19-07
          • 31794

          #5
          mlb for years favs cover 60% dogs 40% thats how it usually ends up give or take and the runlines fall in place with regular dogs basically at the same rate slightly higher i believe
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          • big joe 1212
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-01-08
            • 19380

            #6
            38.947653333%
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            • TheLock
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-06-08
              • 14427

              #7
              I'm confused Pavy.

              Are you asking how often dogs hit the PLUS 1.5 RL?
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              • BeatTheJerk
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-19-07
                • 31794

                #8
                i was pretty close .................
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82863

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheLock
                  I'm confused Pavy.

                  Are you asking how often dogs hit the PLUS 1.5 RL?
                  No. Let me give you an example. Today St.Louis was +103 ML. The St.Louis -1.5 RL was at +203. You could have made twice as much money by betting the RL on the home dog.
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                  • Ganchrow
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-28-05
                    • 5011

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    How often do winning dogs also hit the -1.5 RL? Is it like 50% or less.
                    Since 1999, considering only dogs at a ML ≥ +100 (based on covers.com data):
                    71.63% of all winning dogs covered the -1½ run line. (6,497 out of 9,070)

                    64.85% of winning home dogs covered the -1½ run line. (1,882 out of 2,902)

                    74.82% of winning road dogs covered the -1½ run line. (4,615 out of 6,168)


                    Data current as of 6/28/2008.
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                    • Bet Shooter
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-02-08
                      • 1118

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ganchrow
                      Since 1999, considering only dogs at a ML ≥ +100 (based on covers.com data):
                      71.63% of all winning dogs covered the -1½ run line. (6,497 out of 9,070)

                      64.85% of winning home dogs covered the -1½ run line. (1,882 out of 2,902)

                      74.82% of winning road dogs covered the -1½ run line. (4,615 out of 6,168)
                      I knew there would be some reason posted if I waited long enough. Thank You again Ganch.
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                      • TheLock
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-06-08
                        • 14427

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        No. Let me give you an example. Today St.Louis was +103 ML. The St.Louis -1.5 RL was at +203. You could have made twice as much money by betting the RL on the home dog.
                        Ok I gotcha. Alternative RL.
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                        • Bet Shooter
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-02-08
                          • 1118

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ganchrow
                          Since 1999, considering only dogs at a ML ≥ +100 (based on covers.com data):
                          71.63% of all winning dogs covered the -1½ run line. (6,497 out of 9,070)

                          64.85% of winning home dogs covered the -1½ run line. (1,882 out of 2,902)

                          74.82% of winning road dogs covered the -1½ run line. (4,615 out of 6,168)


                          Data current as of 6/28/2008.
                          Would you think a valid play would be to take the run lines on the away dogs if payout is better than the 75% win percentage? Am I out in left field here?
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                          • Ganchrow
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-28-05
                            • 5011

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bet Shooter
                            Would you think a valid play would be to take the run lines on the away dogs if payout is better than the 75% win percentage? Am I out in left field here?
                            In general, no.

                            The above figures are simply averages. Proper pricing of a run line will necessarily depend on both the fair total and the fair money line (perhaps among other game-specific factors).
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                            • rake922
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-23-07
                              • 11692

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ganchrow
                              Since 1999, considering only dogs at a ML ≥ +100 (based on covers.com data):
                              71.63% of all winning dogs covered the -1½ run line. (6,497 out of 9,070)

                              64.85% of winning home dogs covered the -1½ run line. (1,882 out of 2,902)

                              74.82% of winning road dogs covered the -1½ run line. (4,615 out of 6,168)


                              Data current as of 6/28/2008.
                              Out of those 9070 games.... what was the probability the Dogs won the game
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                              • Ganchrow
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-28-05
                                • 5011

                                #16
                                Originally posted by rake922
                                Out of those 9070 games.... what was the probability the Dogs won the game
                                Out of those 9,070 games? 100%.

                                Those 9,070 games represent 42.78% of the total number of games over the sample period with an underdog of at least +100 (21,203).
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