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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Urgent: USA Credit Rating Just Got Downgraded
    BAD NEWS

    First time in USA history
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    S&P considering first downgrade of U.S. credit rating





    Updated: Friday, August 5, 8:18 PM


    Standard & Poor’s plans to enact the first downgrade of the U.S. Sterling credit rating was delayed Friday night when the Treasury Department said that it had found a math error in the firm’s calculations, according to news reports.
    The White House was bracing for the downgrade, the reports said, after S&P officials advised the Treasury that it had decided to lower the AAA credit rating, which the U.S. government has held for 70 years. S&P decided to lower the rating after a bipartisan debt deal



    But administration officials told the firm that it had wrongly calculated the nation’s deficit projections, according to the reports.
    It was unclear when, or whether, the S&P would issue its downgrade in light of the mistake. Neither S&P nor the Treasury responded immediately Friday night to inquiries about the matter.
    Standard & Poor’s has warned Washington several times this year that, unless the federal government took steps to tame its debt, its credit rating could be lowered.
    Analysts have said a downgrade could increase the cost of borrowing for the U.S. government and lead to tens of billions of dollars in more interest costs per year. That could translate into higher borrowing for consumers and businesses, too.
    A downgrade would also have a cascading series of effects on states and localities that rely on federal funding, including in the Washington metro area, potentially raising the cost of borrowing for schools and parks.
    But the exact impact of the downgrade won’t be known at least until Sunday night, when Asian markets open, and perhaps not fully grasped for months. Analysts say the immediate term impact is likely to be modest because the markets have been expecting a downgrade by S&P for weeks.
    Some analysts are worried about the impact of a downgrade on markets where Treasurys are held as collateral and the AAA rating is required. But most analysts don’t expect this issue to pose a major problem.
    The downgrade by S&P is the most tangible vote of disapproval so far by Wall Street on the deal between President Obama and Congress to cut the deficit by at least $2.1 trillion over 10 years. S&P has said that it wanted at least $4 trillion of deficit reduction.
    The downgrade is likely to be used as a weapon by both Republicans and Democrats as they argue the other side has not taken deficit reduction seriously.
    Other credit rating agencies — Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings — have decided not to downgrade the United States credit rating. But they’ve warned that, if the economy deteriorates significantly or the government does not take additional steps to tame the debt, they could move to downgrade too.
    In April, S&P first said it might downgrade the United States credit rating on concerns that lawmakers would not be able to come to a deal on reducing the debt. In July, as efforts stagnated, S&P said the odds of a downgrade within three months had moved up to 50 percent.
    The ultimate deal between Obama and Congress ultimately failed S&P’s benchmark. Obama administration officials have been critical of S&P for making what was essentially a political judgment and for failing to conclude that the country was making a strong first step to reducing its deficit.
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    • SportsMushroom
      SBR MVP
      • 09-28-10
      • 4177

      #3
      they 'miscalculated' the nations deficit so they are delaying the downgrade?

      yeah right, they aint downgrading shit, the bankers gave them a call and let them know who's boss
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      • BettingGeek
        Restricted User
        • 10-07-10
        • 3555

        #4
        junk bond
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        • Git Lo
          SBR MVP
          • 02-20-11
          • 3785

          #5
          this would be bad news but how does it happen?
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #6
            Should be downgraded more.........


            Again, congrats to all that made the clutch move of cashing out their 401's recently.................brillant.
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            • Tech N9ne
              Restricted User
              • 06-24-11
              • 5366

              #7
              No big deal

              Business as usual
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              • Cap dat 4ss
                Restricted User
                • 10-11-10
                • 3665

                #8
                Settle down baldy, we'll be fine. Quit acting like the town is on fire when in it's just your rug that is on fire. S&P can go fukk themselves. Most of us won't even notice this.
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                • excel
                  Restricted User
                  • 03-25-10
                  • 4270

                  #9
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                  • CarpeDime
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-01-09
                    • 7873

                    #10
                    jj DO SOMETHING!!
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                    • iceminers26
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-13-08
                      • 15600

                      #11
                      USA = Buried

                      WTF happened to this once great nation
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                      • Br0nxer
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-25-11
                        • 13665

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CarpeDime
                        jj DO SOMETHING!!
                        carper call me you fukkin prikk
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                        • Tech N9ne
                          Restricted User
                          • 06-24-11
                          • 5366

                          #13
                          Originally posted by iceminers26
                          USA = Buried

                          WTF happened to this once great nation
                          8 years of George W Bush

                          That's wtf happened.
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                          • benjy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-19-09
                            • 2158

                            #14
                            Cool pie chart Excel.

                            Source?
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                            • excel
                              Restricted User
                              • 03-25-10
                              • 4270

                              #15
                              Originally posted by benjy
                              Cool pie chart Excel.

                              Source?
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                              • maersksealand
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-17-09
                                • 1673

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                they 'miscalculated' the nations deficit so they are delaying the downgrade?

                                yeah right, they aint downgrading shit, the bankers gave them a call and let them know who's boss

                                interesting subject...what if the bankers want to destroy the dollar, America and the world...to setup a new world order and a new currency ?
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                                • excel
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 03-25-10
                                  • 4270

                                  #17
                                  administration calling the downgrade amateur hour at s&p
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                                  • crustyme
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-29-10
                                    • 16896

                                    #18
                                    American families lost a total of $19.4 trillion (in 2010 dollars) in household wealth from June 2007 to March 2009

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                                    • benjy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-19-09
                                      • 2158

                                      #19
                                      Thanks dude.
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                                      • Git Lo
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-20-11
                                        • 3785

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by maersksealand
                                        interesting subject...what if the bankers want to destroy the dollar, America and the world...to setup a new world order and a new currency ?
                                        is this enough to do it?
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                                        • William Walters
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 6372

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by iceminers26
                                          USA = Buried

                                          WTF happened to this once great nation
                                          Too many freeloaders and the past 25 years of immigrants.
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                                          • Jnas
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-26-10
                                            • 760

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Tech N9ne
                                            8 years of George W Bush

                                            That's wtf happened.
                                            More like 2 years of your Lord Obama.........
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                                            • jarvol
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-13-10
                                              • 6074

                                              #23
                                              What exactly does Bush have to do with this?
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                                              • crustyme
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-29-10
                                                • 16896

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Jnas
                                                More like 2 years of your Lord Obama.........




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                                                • benjy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-19-09
                                                  • 2158

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jarvol
                                                  What exactly does Bush have to do with this?
                                                  Sweet mother of goodness!

                                                  You post a graph with no context; not even dates. How useless.
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                                                  • no1here
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                    • 5914

                                                    #26
                                                    This is not good and indeed really bad that will effect our pockets.
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                                                    • jarvol
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-13-10
                                                      • 6074

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by benjy
                                                      Sweet mother of goodness!

                                                      You post a graph with no context; not even dates. How useless.
                                                      National Debt 2011-2021

                                                      Are you dumb or just stupid?
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                                                      • Tech N9ne
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-24-11
                                                        • 5366

                                                        #28
                                                        Crustyme already on top of it

                                                        The charts don't lie

                                                        George W Bush is responsible
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                                                        • Tech N9ne
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-24-11
                                                          • 5366

                                                          #29
                                                          Lets go to two wars and give tax cuts to the rich

                                                          Ahhhhh the Republican way
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                                                          • crustyme
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-29-10
                                                            • 16896

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jarvol
                                                            What exactly does Bush have to do with this?

                                                            bush lost 4 million jobs 2007-8 and americans lost $19 trillion in personal wealth from 2007-9.

                                                            do you think the economy headed towards another great depression would rebound all on its own?

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                                                            • benjy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-19-09
                                                              • 2158

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jarvol
                                                              National Debt 2011-2021

                                                              Are you dumb or just stupid?
                                                              Well as I can both talk and understand that a graph such as the one you posted, even one without context, needs dates to be even superficially relevant I would say neither.

                                                              From what you've posted however I cannot say the same for you.
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82839

                                                                #32
                                                                Bush destroyed the country. There is a reason he is the worst president in history.
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                                                                • Jnas
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-26-10
                                                                  • 760

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nice graphs all these government figures are total BS. If you honestly think the country is improving you are really kidding yourself. Most job #'s are skewed becasue of all the people that have totally given up in finding work. At a certain point many republicans even admitted Bush was a clown. But all you Democrat Fanboys will continue licking Obama ass all the way down. hope he enjoys his $5 million Vineyard vacation.
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                                                                  • benjy
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-19-09
                                                                    • 2158

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Jnas
                                                                    Nice graphs all these government figures are total BS. If you honestly think the country is improving you are really kidding yourself. Most job #'s are skewed becasue of all the people that have totally given up in finding work. At a certain point many republicans even admitted Bush was a clown. But all you Democrat Fanboys will continue licking Obama ass all the way down. hope he enjoys his $5 million Vineyard vacation.
                                                                    Good post.
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                                                                    • Reload
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-23-08
                                                                      • 12250

                                                                      #35
                                                                      JJ - Will the loan sharks in Newark and Paterson will be raising their interest rates due to this?
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