Leo Messi will amount to nothing for Argentina on the big stage

**gti175** · 07-07-11, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by LostBankroll

Klose old ass is a perfect example of a top player. **** this Best Player in The World shit with Messie. ANY player can get strapped up!

He's so perfect he doesn't even play for the country he was born in. Please.

**LostBankroll** · 07-07-11, 03:49 PM

Who gives a ****. **** Messie and the Ravens.

**LostBankroll** · 07-07-11, 03:49 PM

**** Steve Harvey!

**Shark79** · 07-07-11, 03:54 PM

Messi simply does not have an Iniesta or Xavi in the Argentinian squad that allows him to break the defense as well as he does it in Barcelona.

**gti175** · 07-07-11, 03:55 PM

I'm guessing your 14 years old with the I.Q of an ape. And its Messi, not Messie.

**Wiesnak** · 07-07-11, 04:11 PM

some people are clueless around here.....

**lakerboy** · 07-07-11, 04:49 PM

It doesn't matter how the team is employed on the pitch. The greatest players find ways. Maradona singlehandedly won the world cup for his nation in 86. Then he took aa horrible squad to the final in 90. Messi needs to wake up and score a big goal for nation.

**Wiesnak** · 07-07-11, 04:58 PM

if Messi played in the 80's he'd be scoring 3 goals every game....

**latinrus** · 07-07-11, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by Wiesnak

if Messi played in the 80's he'd be scoring 3 goals every game....

I think u r missing the point!

C'mon Messi is not a leader like Maradona was! If he can't do anything with all these stars next to him!

What he would do with the guyS that Maradona had next to him that are not even close to the ones in this Argentinian team!

Even in the 80 there were more fould, Messi will be crying in the field and no one will show yellow or red card to the other guys!

**FindTheLock** · 07-07-11, 05:59 PM

Messi is the best player in the world right now (but not of all time) who is still very young and has many years to accomplish greatness. This is being too harsh on one player when the fault belongs to the coach. Any person who has ever played a sport knows that a coach can disguise a great player and make him look mediocre with bad coaching.

**maersksealand** · 07-07-11, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

it really pisses me off because i am a big argentina supporter. nation has no soccer niche anymore. zero coaching and the stupid idea of having 8 strikers all 5 feet 3 inches.

coaching is a big problem...for example what the hell they where thinking when they choose Maradona ?

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 06:38 PM

Maradona put every team on his shoulders , Messi cant do that

**latinrus** · 07-07-11, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Jimmy0607

Maradona put every team on his shoulders , Messi cant do that

**Wiesnak** · 07-07-11, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Jimmy0607

Maradona put every team on his shoulders , Messi cant do that

this cant be done in todays soccer.....

**k13** · 07-07-11, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Wiesnak

this cant be done in todays soccer.....

Guess you missed diego forlan's performance last world cup.....

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 07:39 PM

Forlán did it for uruguay in the world cup

**k13** · 07-07-11, 07:42 PM

maybe messi = lebron = arod

**lakerboy** · 07-07-11, 07:49 PM

Great players can carry mediocre coaches as well. Raymond domenech

**The Special One** · 07-07-11, 07:51 PM

You guys are clueless

**Karim** · 07-07-11, 08:25 PM

it´s really sad how the best player in the world gets this bad in argentinia.. you even could see it in his face in the last game .. if he could only play for argentinia and no other team (barca) he would stop playing soccer within a year.

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 08:32 PM

There was a free kick right next to the box towards the end of the game , messi took it guy kicked it to the stands literally u can't tell me that's because of the coach or Barcelona or anything

**FindTheLock** · 07-07-11, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Jimmy0607

There was a free kick right next to the box towards the end of the game , messi took it guy kicked it to the stands literally u can't tell me that's because of the coach or Barcelona or anything

you're right man. One bad free kick means you suck and should immediately retire. Forget all the magical goals he scored. The guy kicked a bad free kick into the stands so he should hang up his boots for good. He's terrible because of one free kick I agree with you. Now that you mention it, Jordan missed a few free throws in his career. he sucks too. Take him out of the hall of fame for not shooting 100 percent from the line.

**latinrus** · 07-07-11, 08:52 PM

I really don't understand why people overprotect Messi!

He's a great player but in Barca. Outside that enviroment he can't find the way!

Why people can't accept that? Why if he can't take Argentina on his shoulder people starts saying bad coaching, bad teamates, bad whatever else, but can't accept that Messi maybe isn't as good outsied Barca?

**FindTheLock** · 07-07-11, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by latinrus

I really don't understand why people overprotect Messi!

He's a great player but in Barca. Outside that enviroment he can't find the way!

Why people can't accept that? Why if he can't take Argentina on his shoulder people starts saying bad coaching, bad teamates, bad whatever else, but can't accept that Messi maybe isn't as good outsied Barca?

I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you why I like Messi so much. The answer is simple. He makes me money. I can not tell you how many times I won a bet because Messi scored some goals to push the O2.5 or O3.5. OR the late 90 min goal to cover the spread for me. Messi is clutch and I back barcelona because he is on the team. People always give all the credit to The other Barca players, but take Messi off that team and they are not anywhere near as good as they are with him. It is true he fits better at Barca than with his national team, but I believe that is because he plays with those players much more frequently then he does at home in Argentina. The team has no chemistry right now, and the coach is useless to boot. That is why I defend Messi.

**lakerboy** · 07-07-11, 08:58 PM

Messi just won't produce on the world stage right now cause he needs that big break to get him over the hump. Who knows maybe his coming out party will be in brazil. That would be good enough for all argentine supporters to forget these recent years.

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

you're right man. One bad free kick means you suck and should immediately retire. Forget all the magical goals he scored. The guy kicked a bad free kick into the stands so he should hang up his boots for good. He's terrible because of one free kick I agree with you. Now that you mention it, Jordan missed a few free throws in his career. he sucks too. Take him out of the hall of fame for not shooting 100 percent from the line.

Its a fukiin example of his frustration you probably didnt even watch the game so thats why you are talking out of your ass

**The Special One** · 07-07-11, 09:19 PM

again, clueless.

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 09:22 PM

He still plays because hes Messi ,he should be on the bench already

**FindTheLock** · 07-07-11, 09:24 PM

out of my ass? I'll leave that to the experts on here. Watched every minute of that game. It was a bad free kick that sailed high and wide, nothing more or less. He also had a nice push of the ball near the end where he headed it down taking on two defenders but they were able to clear it before messi got the finishing touch on the ball. We are wearing different colored glasses obviously.

**The Special One** · 07-07-11, 09:28 PM

Messi will shine against Costa Rica.

**The Special One** · 07-07-11, 09:33 PM

Messi is as good of a player as you will ever see... dont take these stupid Cups as the talking point about his ability..

the real competition in this sport is the CL, and we all know how good he is there.

**lakerboy** · 07-07-11, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by The Special One

Messi is as good of a player as you will ever see... dont take these stupid Cups as the talking point about his ability..

the real competition in this sport is the CL, and we all know how good he is there.

Yeah actually the cl is no competition. Was the world cup a stupid cup as well? The competition in these cups is horrible compared to what messi is used to but yet again he can't produce the goods for his nation. The main reason is that he can't handle the pressure of playing for a soccer mad country like argentina. I have been there and watched games live. Its absolute fukkin pandemonium. Go to rosario and watch a match. Messi is one of those guys who will have pressure on him cause of what he does for barca and its his responsibiltity to reproduce that on the international stage for HIS nation. Maradona took 8 years to win the world cup. Brazil 2014 awaits Messi. There will be no excuses- he must carry his nation in that tourney.

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

out of my ass? I'll leave that to the experts on here. Watched every minute of that game. It was a bad free kick that sailed high and wide, nothing more or less. He also had a nice push of the ball near the end where he headed it down taking on two defenders but they were able to clear it before messi got the finishing touch on the ball. We are wearing different colored glasses obviously.

The point is that In Barca that doesnt happen, Messi hasnt had one good game withArgentina and for the best player in the world thats unacceptable, if you are the best you are the best playing for Barcelona , Argentina or Kazahkstan

**Jimmy0607** · 07-07-11, 09:58 PM

Rosario , went to Watch Central - Newells a few years back total madness haha

**FindTheLock** · 07-07-11, 10:20 PM

Messi is 23. He hasn't even been allowed the proper amount of time to produce with Argentina. He plays with Barcelona all the time, and we all see what he does when he has chemistry with his team mates, and a coach who puts Messi in front of the attack.