Leo Messi will amount to nothing for Argentina on the big stage

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  • The Special One
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    • 01-08-11
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    #106
    "Lol I always thought u were stupid."

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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
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      #107
      Congrats special olympics. You are our hero. Kids like you are why this site has become a joke.
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      • The Special One
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        #108
        Originally posted by lakerboy
        Congrats special olympics. You are our hero. Kids like you are why this site has become a joke.
        oh i dont care about the site... im nothing like these typical kids, because i understand SOMEWHAT the world we all live in.

        you dont.

        you see everything from a blind perspective...

        realistically im wasting my time explaining this to you, because I know ill never succeed in proving anything to you, BUT...

        at least dont bother Messi, he doesnt deserve that disrespect... people like you are why the world has become a joke.

        a fake, cruel joke.
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        • JOHON8
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          • 01-28-10
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          #109
          Did anyone see how beautifully Messi set up Higuain for that goal? The kid is surrounded by 5 defenders for 90 minutes, all he can do is create and he did it. He also did his part in the penalties, you're gonna blame him for losing when Tevez screws up because he's thinking about his family?
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          • The Special One
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            #110
            Originally posted by JOHON8
            Did anyone see how beautifully Messi set up Higuain for that goal? The kid is surrounded by 5 defenders for 90 minutes, all he can do is create and he did it. He also did his part in the penalties, you're gonna blame him for losing when Tevez screws up because he's thinking about his family?
            thank you, at least not everyone is blind... people are too concentrated on the negatives in this world, and fail to spot the good..

            i feel sorry for Messi
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            • The Special One
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              #111
              a perfect pass Johon, couldnt be better...
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              • SoV
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                • 03-21-10
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                #112
                Originally posted by lakerboy
                Once again I prove myself to be right again. Another tourney comes and goes and messi does a no show. Kid just doesnt have it (yet). He nevered scored when his nation needed him. What a letdown. Will he overshadow Brazil and take their glory in 2014?
                Originally posted by lakerboy

                Lol I always thought u were stupid.

                Your dumb statemeent just proved it. Guy get a clue. Messi is to bear the responsibility for this colossal failure. Uruguay played with ten men for 50 minuted- it was his job to produce a result. He didn't. The kid isn't ready for the bigtime but his star status will always make him responsible. That's why grondona told him not to play. U don't get it do you? Before u were born I watched argentina raise the world cup in 1978. Learn sports special brother.


                It's always about scoring, isn't it? Only for idiots who watch the sport once in two years or summat.

                Messi was almost playing central midfield, out of his position. Give him suppliers like he has at Barca, or even close, and he will single-handedly destroy defences.

                Again, it's stupid saying Messi's shite based on international performances when he's destroyed much better teams at club level.

                You can tell who lost money last night. And as always, it's the little gem to blame, and not idiots like Tevez, Higuain etc. who can't do shit on their own.
                FML

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                • jididii
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                  • 10-31-10
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                  #113
                  SoV, i absolutely agree,well said!


                  Jididii
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                  • LostBankroll
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                    • 02-10-10
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                    #114
                    Originally posted by LostBankroll
                    Forlan > Messie
                    I ******* said it boy! Thats ******* RIGHT! Forlan hasnt scored in over a year with Uruguay and yet he does more for them anybody. Forlan can **** Messiiees Wife
                    Originally posted by latinrus
                    That's how Fans in Argentina love Messi
                    Originally posted by LostBankroll
                    Forlan > messie
                    Originally posted by MendozaLine
                    haha good one.
                    Originally posted by MendozaLine
                    Messi isn't even the best player of the last 10 years









                    This thread was pure comedy.
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                    • SoV
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                      • 03-21-10
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                      #115
                      Forlan is not even close to being as good as Messi, let alone being better.
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                      • LostBankroll
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                        • 02-10-10
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                        #116
                        Forlan is old. I cry when I see him play he is a shell of himself. He is my favorite player. He doesnt run around as much any more.
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                        • tankman777
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                          • 04-03-10
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                          #117
                          he'll get a world cup next time dont worry
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                          • eleuropeano
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                            • 05-06-11
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                            #118
                            It is all just a perfect example that a good team is a lot more than just a few good players put together.
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                            • Czu81
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                              • 10-25-09
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                              #119
                              LOL. Messi played well, stop hating people.. Uruguay excellent teamwork earned the victory
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by SoV


                                It's always about scoring, isn't it? Only for idiots who watch the sport once in two years or summat.

                                Messi was almost playing central midfield, out of his position. Give him suppliers like he has at Barca, or even close, and he will single-handedly destroy defences.

                                Again, it's stupid saying Messi's shite based on international performances when he's destroyed much better teams at club level.

                                You can tell who lost money last night. And as always, it's the little gem to blame, and not idiots like Tevez, Higuain etc. who can't do shit on their own.

                                sov i think you know i am an argentina fan. i didnt bet anything on this game. no its not always about scoring and messi did give opportunities for his teammates for sure but a great player has to will his team to victory. messi is still young but it wouldnt have hurt his cause if he scored a goal yesterday. messi couldnt do shit on his own either this whole tourney.
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                                • tachi
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                                  • 03-25-09
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                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by The Special One
                                  Messi is as good of a player as you will ever see... dont take these stupid Cups as the talking point about his ability..

                                  the real competition in this sport is the CL, and we all know how good he is there.
                                  Is the World Cup part of your stupid cups list?
                                  cause Messi failed there and always fail if the Spanish champions are not around him.

                                  It's not hard to shine when world champions are around you and your team
                                  plays with the ball 70% of the match.l
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                                  • SoV
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                                    • 03-21-10
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                                    #122
                                    LB, sorry for jumping the gun earlier. I was out on the piss, saw Uruguay win, celebrated that (have them at 12/1 to win this thing) and came to see this thread. I absolutely adore Messi. My favourite player in the world despite being a Liverpool supporter.

                                    Messi usually plays in a free-role or in the middle of the attack for Barcelona. For Argentina, he's played a much more deeper role. Almost at CM, which is where Xavi plays for Barcelona. Messi's played a similar role for Argentina so I wouldn't have expected him to score a lot. He created plenty of chances but the strikers couldn't convert.

                                    I agree with you that Messi has to produce those moments of magic like Maradona did but unfortunately for Lionel, Argentina needs a half decent manager first who will play to Messi's strength and not expect him to do everything.

                                    Rather, I feel that Messi adjusts more to the Argentina style than any other player. He plays more as a part of a team than the likes of Aguero, Tevez, Higuain, De Maria etc. Think about it, what did Aguero, Tevez or De Maria do this tournament? Fuk all and they're supposed to be among the best in the world.
                                    FML

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                                    • SoV
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by tachi
                                      Is the World Cup part of your stupid cups list?
                                      cause Messi failed there and always fail if the Spanish champions are not around him.

                                      It's not hard to shine when world champions are around you and your team
                                      plays with the ball 70% of the match.l
                                      Can you please tell me how many assists Messi had for Argentina in Copa and the World Cup, and also for Barcelona?

                                      Easy to say that Messi's only good because of Xavi and Iniesta playing behind him, conveniently forgetting that he does as much as them, if not more, for Barcelona.
                                      FML

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                                      • Jimmy0607
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by SoV
                                        Give him suppliers like he has at Barca, or even close, and he will single-handedly destroy defences. Again, it's stupid saying Messi's shite based on international performances when he's destroyed much better teams at club level.
                                        Thats what you guys dont seem to understand , I could play great if I play with the players Barcelona has , Great players show what they got and when they dont have anybody next to them , Maradona did it on 86 he had shitty ass players with him and he put the team on his shoulders and won the WC, Messi cant take the pressure
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                                        • cala56
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                                          • 02-25-10
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                                          #125
                                          im form argentina, i think he is overrated,
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                                          • Jimmy0607
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                                            #126
                                            I dont think hes overrated because in Barcelona he shows hes the best in the world , but you have to show you are the best everywhere you go not jsut in your comfort zone
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                                            • latinrus
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                                              • 08-01-10
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                                              Thats what you guys dont seem to understand , I could play great if I play with the players Barcelona has , Great players show what they got and when they dont have anybody next to them , Maradona did it on 86 he had shitty ass players with him and he put the team on his shoulders and won the WC, Messi cant take the pressure
                                              Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                                              I dont think hes overrated because in Barcelona he shows hes the best in the world , but you have to show you are the best everywhere you go not jsut in your comfort zone


                                              That's the only valid argument for me!

                                              As long as he wont take the fvcking team on his shoulders he can't be considered the best on history like someone said!! And Maradona did it even 2 times, with Argentina and then with Napoli!

                                              Messi should learn to be a leader if u can learn that. In Barca he he's not a leader he's just part of a machine that is well prepared. We also don't know what Messi could do out of Barca in any other team and I think we will never know cause after all of this I think Messi should be even afraid of leaving Barca.
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                                              • Wiesnak
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                                                • 12-06-10
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                                                #128
                                                Messi like all other players has no choice but to follow the script.... the script writers didnt favour Argentina now and they didnt favour them in the WC, cant be blaming Messi for that.....
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                                                • The Special One
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                                                  Thats what you guys dont seem to understand , I could play great if I play with the players Barcelona has , Great players show what they got and when they dont have anybody next to them , Maradona did it on 86 he had shitty ass players with him and he put the team on his shoulders and won the WC, Messi cant take the pressure
                                                  buddy, he can TAKE the pressure so well that even when he knows hes going to lose, he can deliver a pass like we saw yesterday OVER 2 players with incredible speed and accuracy....
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                                                  • SoV
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                                                    Thats what you guys dont seem to understand , I could play great if I play with the players Barcelona has , Great players show what they got and when they dont have anybody next to them , Maradona did it on 86 he had shitty ass players with him and he put the team on his shoulders and won the WC, Messi cant take the pressure
                                                    Yeah? Then tell me why players like Henry, Villa, Pedro, Bojan, Gudjohnsen have failed to rack up as many goals as Messi?

                                                    Also, how many assists has Messi gotten for Barcelona?

                                                    Easy to ridicule Messi's record because of the players he plays with. Maradona actually had a very good support group at Napoli too, contrary to popular belief that he single-handedly won them the league.
                                                    FML

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                                                    • Jimmy0607
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                                                      #131
                                                      The pressure is to win something with Argentina , not to deliver a pass with accuracy
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                                                      • The Special One
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                                                        The pressure is to win something with Argentina , not to deliver a pass with accuracy
                                                        not when you physically cant
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                                                        • cala56
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                                                          #133
                                                          Do not be fooled, that Messi is the best player in the world is MARKETING. It is correct to say that Messi plays in the world's best team with the best players in the world. But he is not Maradona, Maradona could make dogs play, SKIN bristles with how he deal with rivals. This does not happen with messi.
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                                                          • alka07
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                                                            • 10-04-09
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                                                            #134
                                                            the coachıng of argentına ıs really a joke fire batısta
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                                                            • cala56
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                                                              #135
                                                              Sergio batista is really idiot.
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                                                              • Jimmy0607
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                                                                • 04-09-09
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                                                                #136
                                                                Carlitos Bianchi needs to coach Argentina , and grondona needs to be fired
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                                                                • hockeyhy
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  argentina needs a better goalie if they wnt to make a run who was the goalie last wc
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                                                                  • Jimmy0607
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                                                                    • 04-09-09
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Goalie? I'm guessing you didn't watch any game because the Romero was one of the best players
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                                                                    • k13
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                                                                      • 07-16-10
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Forlan winner and scores goals.

                                                                      Messi well....same old.
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                                                                      • borgsta
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                                                                        • 04-11-11
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by SoV
                                                                        Messi was almost playing central midfield, out of his position. Give him suppliers like he has at Barca, or even close, and he will single-handedly destroy defences..
                                                                        I find it staggering that people can't see this and recognise that this is the biggest problem with Argentina. They have NO midfielders that can keep the ball and play a pass forward. Messi had a fantastic WC IMO and hit the post 4 or 5 times off memory despite playing 6 on 1 in attack for most of the tournament.
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