Pharmacist kills gun toting robber, gets life in prison

[Flexin]

I find it interesting that you guys keep saying he was unarmed, okay 2 guys bust into your home and one of them sticks a gun in your face, how the **** are you supposed to know the other is unarmed? I mean are you saying if this kid had a gun in his waistband then they should let the guy off? Its just fuckin weird you ppls logic In the future if you and yoru pardna go in to rob a store how bout ya both have guns, I dont even understand why the kid didnt have a gun because he was guilty as his friend of armed robbery anyway, apparently this kid was just too broke to afford a gun which I guess was unlucky for the pharmacist, maybe had they executed the pharmacist they could've stolen his 2 guns and been more well armed for their future robberies You guys are fukin classic, youll get that 9mm shoved in your mug and shit your pants as your brains are gettin blown out and you want to criticize this guy for defending himself, wtf is wrong with you pussies, defending armed robbers from being shot

Your missing the whole point. Its not a problem that he shot the one without the gun. He had a part in it as well. The problem is after the shot him then ran after the other kid he came bank, got a new gun and killed the kid that is unarmed and already shot. The kid was no longer a threat.

James

[diondublin]

Corbin, LIFE IN PRISON THOUGH? 1st degree murder requires pre-meditation. To me, this is hardly pre-meditated because he was likely making an irrational decision due to the situation these two kids just put him in.

When you point a gun at someone during a robbery you should always expect that dying is a real possibility. This pharmacist and two female employees could have very well been amongst the dead instead.

It's difficult to imagine he went to bed the previous night with any murderous or serious criminal intent. It's difficult to imagine he had any criminal intent even two minutes before he did it.

Life imprisonment is not appropriate here.

[DwightShrute]

It's difficult to imagine he went to bed the previous night with any murderous or serious criminal intent. It's difficult to imagine he had any criminal intent even two minutes before he did it.

Life imprisonment is not appropriate here.

great analogy IMO

[Flexin]

Dude did you even watch video, the guy did not just shoot the guy then sit on a stool and watch an episode of American Idol then come back and fire 5 shots into the punk He chased his armed accomplice (who was an even greater threat obviously since he was uninjured and had his gun drawn) out of the store, sure he could've stood there and wasted that n$$$$r but then his pardna wouldve shot him and executed the other 2 women so he addressed threats on a priority basis, last priority was the very highly potentially armed robber that lay wounded in his store, he pulled out his gun and successfully eliminated the threat...congratulations on a perfect defense of self and store during a multiple suspect armed robbery, most of the time this ends the other way around. See not everybody is able to shoot and assess multiple armed targets like you Robocop, I mean sure you can shoot one guy and assess through X-ray vision that he is unarmed whilst also somehow shooting the other clearly armed accomplice with his gun pointed at your head without flinching but not everyone has your fuckin superhuman Terminator skills

Are you kidding? Have you read the report? Did you listen to him in the interview? The guy has some serious issues. How you don't see that is scary in itself. If you think this guy is normal then you might need to be checked. Did you watch this interview? There was not one shred of truth in any of his comments. How do you go on nationwide TV after the fact and make up lies, that you were shot, one of the ladies was dead, etc. Especially when his lawyer told him not to do it??? Who tells lies about killing people in Desert Storm? You can co-exist with him because you don't have to see him. I'd bet folks around him were in fear of him and knew he was nuts. WHY DO YOU THINK ONLY ONE PERSON DEFENDED HIM IN COURT???

If anyone watches this video and even wants this guy to handle their meds there is something wrong.

I don't feel bad for the lying ****. I think the guy is off is rocker but he still had the right to shot the first shot and even more if he had missed. But after that he was wrong.

Watch from about 1:15 or so. He said he came back and went to the wrong room. Lie. He didn't go in any room. He went right for the gun. He screws himself in court right there. He said the mother was saying she was sorry to her daughter so he thought she got shot so that is why he went back and shot him again. Right there he is showing premeditation. The guy done wrong then ****** himself even more by lying.

James

[DwightShrute]

what would you do in only 46 seconds? I can honestly say I don't know. The only fact that I think we can all agree on is if they never came into the pharmacy with a gun, none of this would have happened.

[bettilimbroke999]

Your missing the whole point. Its not a problem that he shot the one without the gun. He had a part in it as well. The problem is after the shot him then ran after the other kid he came bank, got a new gun and killed the kid that is unarmed and already shot. The kid was no longer a threat.

James

He rolled the dice trying to be an armed robbing thug and he ran into a guy with 2 loaded guns so he lost. That's the point, ya dont put ppl in a situation where they have to shoot ya in the head to stay alive if you want to live very long.

Its all good you want the taxpayers to pay that million bucks for surgery, joke trial, incarceration til hes 40 then he gets out and goes back armed robbing/killing, me I'm pretty satisfied with the way this turned out, I think if we executed a few more of these thugs like they did back in the old days the crime rate wouldnt be through the roof with over 2% of the population in prison

A gangbanging armed robbing thug is dead, boo fuckin hoo

[frostno98]

The Pharmacist was a psychotic nut job that was ready to snap already, maybe he probably had something against African American folks we don't know about and this gave him a great opportunity to finally let out his rage. The two robbers were 14 and 15 kids, obviously not very threatening even with a gun in a snatch and grab situation. Give them the money and have the cops recover it in a few day since you already go it on camera.

Arm robbery in store's with camera hardly ever ends in shots being exchange if you watch enough weirdest police video's on spike TV. Robbers are just their to get your money and get out. Even when you read the local newspaper, you rarely hear people getting killed in an armed robbery, rarely at least where I'm at. This guy tried to be Dirty Harry because he knew these kids didn't know what the fuk they were doing, if it were some adult robbers I doubt he'll pull that same sh1t. He knew this kid weren't a threat but shot them anyways.

Looks like the jury got this one right by drawing a line between self defense and murder. It's not manslaughter because the intent to kill was their, not because he accidentally killed him. If you choose to own a firearm than it's your responsibility to know what self defense is and not, and not just use the heat of the moment as an excuse. If that was the case, then you'll have every armed citizen will fully killing anyone because they feel threaten. In California there are two separate recent cases this year similar to this pharmacist, where the intruder's where killed by the property owner's. Both of those case appeared more in the self defense side than this one, but both owner's minorities still got life sentences for 1st degree murder.

This case is far from over, since the Pharmacist has a chance to get pardon if gets strong support from the community. But it should be a great lesson for people choosing to use a firearm for self defense, go and learn what the heck self defense is before you decide to use a freaking gun idiots.

[Flexin]

Mayan, No blacks alive today were slaves. They know nothing more than you or I, just what we've read out of a book. In fact, most blacks today have no connection to slavery other than very distant lineage. This gives no one the right to pull the slavery card. The color of the kids isn't that important, just an interesting side note. Remember the list of the top 10 most dangerous cities. All cities but two had a caucasian population <50% (one being 52%). Now, I really doubt those are the 10 most dangerous cities in the US, but those are certainly 10 dangerous cities. Reality is, while there is certainly trashy people in every race, where there are more minorities their is a lower quality of life, more crime and more violent crimes ie. assaults, murders, rapes etc....

Your wrong. There are many races that are still slaves. Sex trade is one area it happens.

I don't think anyone here has a problem that James Ersland shot the kid in the head initially. It seems to be divided what people believe about the second time he shot the kid. But why didn't he just give the kids the money and drugs? This is EXACTLY the reason most major retailers, back by high dollar attorneys have the "no hero" policy in place for employees. Had he just given the kids the drugs and money, this would have all been avoided. And theres a pretty good chance the kids got caught anyways.

I agree that in most cases you should just give up the money or meds. Its not worth it. BUT in this case with the way that kid came running in I wouldn't want to walk up to the counter to hand anything over. I have seen people walk in and calmly demand something but he seemed too nervous and shaky. **** that. Who knows how well that gun was taken care of.

I like what they have in the UK. Some stores have a unit mounted in the counter. I'm not sure how its activated but once it is it comes up and closes off the cashier from the rest of the store. I seen a video of someone trying to jump over the counter and the wall came up and slammed the guy against the ceiling, then lowered a bit and slammed him again, he fell off (by luck he fell on the side of the counter that he came from) and it closed. At that point the cashier is safe and she called 911. More stores should have them. Close up and they can take all the chips and pop they want but the cashier is safe.

James

[DwightShrute]

The Pharmacist was a psychotic nut job that was ready to snap already

.. come on. How do you know that?

The two robbers were 14 and 15 kids, obviously not very threatening even with a gun in a snatch and grab situation.
.. non threatening? with a gun? how much MORE threatening can you be?

Looks like the jury got this one right
... as did the OJ jury. just sayin'

wow

[Flexin]

He rolled the dice trying to be an armed robbing thug and he ran into a guy with 2 loaded guns so he lost. That's the point, ya dont put ppl in a situation where they have to shoot ya in the head to stay alive if you want to live very long. Its all good you want the taxpayers to pay that million bucks for surgery, joke trial, incarceration til hes 40 then he gets out and goes back armed robbing/killing, me I'm pretty satisfied with the way this turned out, I think if we executed a few more of these thugs like they did back in the old days the crime rate wouldnt be through the roof with over 2% of the population in prison A gangbanging armed robbing thug is dead, boo fuckin hoo

For real? Are you really that thick headed? I don't care that the kid is dead. He might have died from the first shot if the guy let him. He tried to rob a store. He paid the price with his life. The pharmacist fought off two robbers. He did good there. No problem. Then the same pharmacist murdered the robber he fought off in a gun fight. He is now going to do time if everything goes right because he broke the law with the second gun. You can't expect the two kids to follow the law and not the pharmacist.

James

[Flexin]

It's difficult to imagine he went to bed the previous night with any murderous or serious criminal intent. It's difficult to imagine he had any criminal intent even two minutes before he did it. Life imprisonment is not appropriate here.

Watch the video. He heard the ladies crying and decided to take him out. It doesn't matter how long you plan it.

James

[DwightShrute]

It doesn't matter how long you plan it.

I respect your opinion and obviously the jury sided with you but ..

Can you honestly believe (honestly being the key word here) that he could have "planned" anything in 46 seconds? 46! That's just 16 seconds longer than a bud light commercial.

[FlipK11]

That is indeed a huge steaming pile of serious grade A bullshit. I guess shooting the kid 6 more times as he tried to get up may have been...overkill?, but what else was the pharmacist supposed to do with a gun in his face? Put his hands up and say "Ok man, take it easy..." in which case he'd of probably gotten shot anyways? He should get 2nd degree manslaughter if anything...

[JohnGalt2341]

Agreed, though theres never been a case of a white robbing a black and approx 1.6 billion cases of blacks robbing whites, if it ever happened I would #1 have a stroke at the irony and #2 support the black pharmacist (there's black pharmacists?) killing the white gangbangers (theres white gangbangers?)

I know it's pretty hard to imagine but I bet it would look something like this:

If the Black Pharmacist shown above shot both of these white kids 6 times each I would have absolutely no problem with it at all.

[DwightShrute]

If the Black Pharmacist shot both of these white kids 6 times each I would have absolutely no problem with it at all.

YES I wonder

[bettilimbroke999]

Anyone who believes this qualifies as premeditated 1st degree murder is clearly nuts, the verdict the jury came back with was maybe the worst I've ever heard of since that 17 yr old kid in Georgia got like a 5 year sentence for getting a blowjob a few years ago AND THAT KID WAS BLACK, just for all the ppl on here that suspect Im some racist I considered that black blowjob case to be on par with this case for most ridiculous verdict ever

I dont see race, I see statistics, the statistics dont lie, theres not racist mathematicians that come up with the fact its 8x more likely for a black to commit a violent crime than a white, that's just the fuckin fact of the matter, blacks like to pull out the guns and rock out with their glocks out for 50 bucks or whatever they got in the register at 7/11 anytime they get the chance and whites dont do that, its not my fault its that way, why do I have to be called racist bc I read objective statistics and observe reality

For all the blacks that claim whites are racist Im curious, if I told you to walk down a white neighborhood street at night would you be scared youd be the victim of a crime? **** no you wouldnt. If you had to walk down the blackest street in that town would you be scared youd be the victim of a crime? Damn right you would.

Racism is when they push you in a gas chamber in Auschwitz and try to wipe you off the planet, it aint when you get shot a couple more times than you think you should have during one of your armed robberies

[Flexin]

I respect your opinion and obviously the jury sided with you but .. Can you honestly believe (honestly being the key word here) that he could have "planned" anything in 46 seconds? 46! That's just 16 seconds longer than a bud light commercial.

In any 46 second period? It all depends. In his 46 seconds? Yes.

They busted in and he reacted. Thats fine. He chased the second guy. That was a split second reaction. Thats fine, it happens. But his walk back into the store, past the downed robber, behind the counter, pulled out his second gun, checked it, walked over to the robber (he did this all while "crippled") and leaned over and shot the guy 5 or 6 times. Yes. He had time to plan that. Also in his interview he admitted to planning it.

He also said he was military so he should be trained in combat. Even without that I feel he did have time to plan what he was doing.

James

[DwightShrute]

In any 46 second period? It all depends. In his 46 seconds? Yes.

They busted in and he reacted. Thats fine. He chased the second guy. That was a split second reaction. Thats fine, it happens. But his walk back into the store, past the downed robber, behind the counter, pulled out his second gun, checked it, walked over to the robber (he did this all while "crippled") and leaned over and shot the guy 5 or 6 times. Yes. He had time to plan that. Also in his interview he admitted to planning it.

He also said he was military so he should be trained in combat. Even without that I feel he did have time to plan what he was doing.

James

man I don't know. Try counting to 46 seconds and then see what you accomplish in that time. I can only imagine the adrenalin he must have had and I would be surprised as to how much time he had time to actually think rather than just react.

Yes he was in the military as you say but he doesn't look like a spring chicken anymore.

[Flexin]

Anyone who believes this qualifies as premeditated 1st degree murder is clearly nuts, the verdict the jury came back with was maybe the worst I've ever heard of since that 17 yr old kid in Georgia got like a 5 year sentence for getting a blowjob a few years ago AND THAT KID WAS BLACK, just for all the ppl on here that suspect Im some racist I considered that black blowjob case to be on par with this case for most ridiculous verdict ever I dont see race, I see statistics, the statistics dont lie, theres not racist mathematicians that come up with the fact its 8x more likely for a black to commit a violent crime than a white, that's just the fuckin fact of the matter, blacks like to pull out the guns and rock out with their glocks out for 50 bucks or whatever they got in the register at 7/11 anytime they get the chance and whites dont do that, its not my fault its that way, why do I have to be called racist bc I read objective statistics and observe reality For all the blacks that claim whites are racist Im curious, if I told you to walk down a white neighborhood street at night would you be scared youd be the victim of a crime? **** no you wouldnt. If you had to walk down the blackest street in that town would you be scared youd be the victim of a crime? Damn right you would. Racism is when they push you in a gas chamber in Auschwitz and try to wipe you off the planet, it aint when you get shot a couple more times than you think you should have during one of your armed robberies

What white neighborhood? What black neighborhood? Are you saying that if you walked down Micheal Jordans street you would be worried that you would be attacked? Are you saying that if you walked through a trailer park you would be safe?

And yes white people rob 7/11's.

Versace was murdered in a rich neighborhood and it wasn't by a black man.

White people commit crimes. Try to find one race that doesn't have one case of theft.

James

[Flexin]

man I don't know. Try counting to 46 seconds and then see what you accomplish in that time. I can only imagine the adrenalin he must have had and I would be surprised as to how much time he had time to actually think rather than just react. Yes he was in the military as you say but he doesn't look like a spring chicken anymore.

He wasn't a spring chicken but did you see his "crippled" ass run around? The guy might have physical problems but he is not crippled. And he got around fine.

I had a gun pulled on me (turns out it wasn't real but I didn't know that) and also two cans of bear mace. Trust me. I had time to think. The bear mace was hidden and he ran up on me and pulled the two cans from behind his back. That was done in less then 10 seconds. I had time to think.

He knew his gun was empty. He had to think about where the other gun was and go get it. He even had time to look at the gun, which I believe he was checking to see if the safety was off, then walk over to fire the extra shots. During that he had plenty of time to think.

I was in a car accident where I was rear ended. I had my foot on the ground and getting out by the time the car stopped. I sprinted to his car to haul his ass out. The cars might have been 20 feet or so away. In that short time running to the car I had time to realize the trouble I would get in for dragging him out so I stopped before his car, walking back to mine I had time to get pissed again and go back. Going back I had time to stop myself again. My adrenalin was flowing big time.

That guy did have time to think between getting the second gun and using it.

James

[bettilimbroke999]

What white neighborhood? What black neighborhood? Are you saying that if you walked down Micheal Jordans street you would be worried that you would be attacked? Are you saying that if you walked through a trailer park you would be safe?

And yes white people rob 7/11's.

Versace was murdered in a rich neighborhood and it wasn't by a black man.

White people commit crimes. Try to find one race that doesn't have one case of theft.

James

Oh brother c'mon James ya know I mean really c'mon man

Do you really have to bring Michael Jordan up when discussing the average black neighborhood in this country? I mean first off hes prolly the only black guy in his neighborhood, secondly yes I would feel much safer walking through a trailer park at night than I would a black project, in my town I have never heard of a murder at the trailer park, theres about 20 a year in the projects, thirdly yes there is a white guy who murdered somebody it just happens to happen at 8x the rate with blacks thats all.

All this has nothing to do with race my friend, the suns tanning ability doesnt affect the mind, its all about culture and poverty, blacks in general treat education like an absolute joke and worship this "thug ******" lifestyle, when was the last time you saw a 15 yr old white armed robbing a fuckin pharmacy? Open your eyes dude...to quote the Matrix "Im trying to free your mind Neo"

[frostno98]

Why is their a gun in a pharmaceutical store anywaysand why would you rob a pharmaceutical store since they're not known for having a large amount of cash, since every thing is paid cheaply with health insurance. If that place is known for getting robbed than a bulletproof glass should be installed like those in them check cashing stores. Very bizarre case, but the Nut job got what he deserved, 25 to life. Prepare to spend the rest of his life being some one biotch in prison, instead of being freed and still having a decent job if he would of did the right thing by not going John Wayne

[DwightShrute]

He wasn't a spring chicken but did you see his "crippled" ass run around? The guy might have physical problems but he is not crippled. And he got around fine.

I had a gun pulled on me (turns out it wasn't real but I didn't know that) and also two cans of bear mace. Trust me. I had time to think. The bear mace was hidden and he ran up on me and pulled the two cans from behind his back. That was done in less then 10 seconds. I had time to think.

He knew his gun was empty. He had to think about where the other gun was and go get it. He even had time to look at the gun, which I believe he was checking to see if the safety was off, then walk over to fire the extra shots. During that he had plenty of time to think.

I was in a car accident where I was rear ended. I had my foot on the ground and getting out by the time the car stopped. I sprinted to his car to haul his ass out. The cars might have been 20 feet or so away. In that short time running to the car I had time to realize the trouble I would get in for dragging him out so I stopped before his car, walking back to mine I had time to get pissed again and go back. Going back I had time to stop myself again. My adrenalin was flowing big time.

That guy did have time to think between getting the second gun and using it.

James

James, u r a smart guy , that's obvious but that analogy just doesn't work for me. I do get where you are going however. I would like to think I (and you for that matter) would handle a similar situation as you suggested but I am not convinced I am that cool.

I was attacked by 2 guys with a knife once and I reacted by punching to the ground the one guy without the knife and the other guy with the knife swung and only nicked my finger. I was lucky and even though it only took a few seconds, I never had much of a chance to think. I just reacted. I credit my 7 years of boxing for my reaction and some street smarts.

Also, once I was trying to hail down a cab and I noticed 2 guys behind me. They were pretending to make a phone call at the pay phone at the corner. They were 30 feet away but I knew that public phone was not working from earlier that day. Suddenly he tried to get his gun out of his sweat pants and had difficulty, but by the time he did, I had already move several feet further away. As soon as he got his gun out I was across the street and even though he pointed it at me, he didn't fire. Not sure why. Thankfully I was ok but as I can say from some experience, you can act cool all you want, but at the same time, reacting takes over to a larage degree. Reacting based on experience. Some thinking was involved of course but you just can't predict what you will do.

[jgray]

James, u r a smart guy , that's obvious but that analogy just doesn't work for me. I do get where you are going however. I would like to think I (and you for that matter) would handle a similar situation as you suggested but I am not convinced I am that cool. I was attacked by 2 guys with a knife once and I reacted by punching to the ground the one guy without the knife and the other guy with the knife swung and only nicked my finger. I was lucky and even though it only took a few seconds, I never had much of a chance to think. I just reacted. I credit me 7 years of boxing for my reaction. Also, once I was trying to hail down a cab and I noticed 2 guys behind me. They were pretending to make a phone call at the pay phone at the corner. They were 30 feet away but I knew that public phone was not working. Suddenly he tried to get his gun out of his sweat pants but by the time he did, I had already move several feet further away. As soon as he got his gun out I was across the street and even though he pointed it at me, he didn't fire. Not sure why. Thankfully I was ok but as I can say from some experience, you can act cool but at the same time, reacting takes over. reacting based on experience. Yes some thinking was involved but you just can't predict what you will do.

Shit man. I had no idea that Jordan's neighborhood was so rough....

[bettilimbroke999]

I had a gun pulled on me (turns out it wasn't real but I didn't know that) and also two cans of bear mace. Trust me. I had time to think. The bear mace was hidden and he ran up on me and pulled the two cans from behind his back. That was done in less then 10 seconds. I had time to think.

The way you defend armed robbers this doesnt surprise me in the least, who pulled the gun on you the store owner of a local pharmacy

He knew his gun was empty. He had to think about where the other gun was and go get it. He even had time to look at the gun, which I believe he was checking to see if the safety was off, then walk over to fire the extra shots. During that he had plenty of time to think.

He couldve taken the chance that the robber was not fully armed like his friend and bet his life on that, he chose not to, who am I to judge what chances he is supposed to take with his life in the midst of being armed robbed by multiple ppl. This is like that idiot poster that said he should've known he was in no danger since the kid was 16 who had the loaded gun pointed at his head. Are you fuckin kidding? Dude did what he had to insure he and his coworkers were gonna get out of a situation those two armed robbing punks caused alive.

I was in a car accident where I was rear ended. I had my foot on the ground and getting out by the time the car stopped. I sprinted to his car to haul his ass out. The cars might have been 20 feet or so away. In that short time running to the car I had time to realize the trouble I would get in for dragging him out so I stopped before his car, walking back to mine I had time to get pissed again and go back. Going back I had time to stop myself again. My adrenalin was flowing big time.

You compare someone accidently rear ending you to being armed robbed? I dont even understand the comparison, how was your life in danger? Your insane reaction to being in a completely routine car accident further convinces me you are a wannabe thug

That guy did have time to think between getting the second gun and using it.

Yup he thought he was gonna kill an armed robber that had just tried to rob and kill him and in the process saved the taxpayers a million bucks and some ppl in the future from being robbed/killed. Im tryin to understand what society lost vs gained here, the taxpayers saved a million bucks and lost a gangbanging thug n####r committing armed robberies with a rap sheet a mile long at only 16 that would've just continued robbing/killing ppl until he was caught or killed anyway, this was just an eventuality

[Flexin]

James, u r a smart guy , that's obvious but that analogy just doesn't work for me. I do get where you are going however. I would like to think I (and you for that matter) would handle a similar situation as you suggested but I am not convinced I am that cool. I was attacked by 2 guys with a knife once and I reacted by punching to the ground the one guy without the knife and the other guy with the knife swung and only nicked my finger. I was lucky and even though it only took a few seconds, I never had much of a chance to think. I just reacted. I credit my 7 years of boxing for my reaction and some street smarts. Also, once I was trying to hail down a cab and I noticed 2 guys behind me. They were pretending to make a phone call at the pay phone at the corner. They were 30 feet away but I knew that public phone was not working from earlier that day. Suddenly he tried to get his gun out of his sweat pants and had difficulty, but by the time he did, I had already move several feet further away. As soon as he got his gun out I was across the street and even though he pointed it at me, he didn't fire. Not sure why. Thankfully I was ok but as I can say from some experience, you can act cool all you want, but at the same time, reacting takes over to a larage degree. Reacting based on experience. Some thinking was involved of course but you just can't predict what you will do.

Your talking about reacting. The pharmacist reacted with the first gun. You can't call what he did with the second gun a reaction. With the two guys and one knife you reacted.

With the gun you were aware of your surroundings and planned your move when you sensed trouble. You had time to think.

The knife case was like when the robbers first went in the store. The gun case similar to when he went for the second gun. You both had time to think about what to do. You made the right choice. He didn't.

James

[bettilimbroke999]

Why is their a gun in a pharmaceutical store anywaysand why would you rob a pharmaceutical store since they're not known for having a large amount of cash, since every thing is paid cheaply with health insurance. If that place is known for getting robbed than a bulletproof glass should be installed like those in them check cashing stores. Very bizarre case, but the Nut job got what he deserved, 25 to life. Prepare to spend the rest of his life being some one biotch in prison, instead of being freed and still having a decent job if he would of did the right thing by not going John Wayne

Blacks would rob a lemonade stand they dont care, but in this case pharmacies have both money and prescription drugs worth a good bit of street value

[DwightShrute]

Shit man. I had no idea that Jordan's neighborhood was so rough....

It might have been him actually but I can't be certain

[DwightShrute]

With the gun you were aware of your surroundings and planned your move when you sensed trouble. You had time to think.

true about my surroundings. Thankfully. The pharmacist guy was backed in and thus a different scenario. regardless, I hope it never happens to you but I sincerely suspect that if it did, you might think differently on the subject. But I do appreciate the discussion and how you presented your side. You should think about being a lawyer.

[Flexin]

I had a gun pulled on me (turns out it wasn't real but I didn't know that) and also two cans of bear mace. Trust me. I had time to think. The bear mace was hidden and he ran up on me and pulled the two cans from behind his back. That was done in less then 10 seconds. I had time to think. The way you defend armed robbers this doesnt surprise me in the least, who pulled the gun on you the store owner of a local pharmacy He knew his gun was empty. He had to think about where the other gun was and go get it. He even had time to look at the gun, which I believe he was checking to see if the safety was off, then walk over to fire the extra shots. During that he had plenty of time to think. He couldve taken the chance that the robber was not fully armed like his friend and bet his life on that, he chose not to, who am I to judge what chances he is supposed to take with his life in the midst of being armed robbed by multiple ppl. This is like that idiot poster that said he should've known he was in no danger since the kid was 16 who had the loaded gun pointed at his head. Are you fuckin kidding? Dude did what he had to insure he and his coworkers were gonna get out of a situation those two armed robbing punks caused alive. I was in a car accident where I was rear ended. I had my foot on the ground and getting out by the time the car stopped. I sprinted to his car to haul his ass out. The cars might have been 20 feet or so away. In that short time running to the car I had time to realize the trouble I would get in for dragging him out so I stopped before his car, walking back to mine I had time to get pissed again and go back. Going back I had time to stop myself again. My adrenalin was flowing big time. You compare someone accidently rear ending you to being armed robbed? I dont even understand the comparison, how was your life in danger? Your insane reaction to being in a completely routine car accident further convinces me you are a wannabe thug That guy did have time to think between getting the second gun and using it. Yup he thought he was gonna kill an armed robber that had just tried to rob and kill him and in the process saved the taxpayers a million bucks and some ppl in the future from being robbed/killed. Im tryin to understand what society lost vs gained here, the taxpayers saved a million bucks and lost a gangbanging thug n####r committing armed robberies with a rap sheet a mile long at only 16 that would've just continued robbing/killing ppl until he was caught or killed anyway, this was just an eventuality

Wannabe thug? Listen. I'm a family man and not a thug.

The punk who did this was white, living in a mostly white neighborhood.

First of all, with your racial slurs you are failing to prove a point.

What tax money was saved? The pharmacist broke the law, look it up. So in fact he is costing the tax payers more because his crime carrys a longer sentence.

Well we will just all have to agree to disagree on this. You have your stance and this is mine.

He was in the right defending himself when they first came in.
He made a bad choice chasing the second guy but it happened. At least he didn't kill someone innocent while doing so which was possible.
The guy had not threat in the store when he walked back in the store, he proved it by walking by the guy on the floor rather then walking around the way he came out.
He walked back and killed the guy. He is stupid because there is a chance the kid would have bled to death from the first shot and he wouldn't have to deal with this case. He brought that on himself. In danger? He wasn't. If he was worried about it he could have took the second gun with him and led the two women out the back door and got out of there. If the guy was a threat he risked getting shot by getting that close to him to take the shot. He proved he could have made that shot from behind the counter.
He lied to police, media and so on.

And the last thing is I feel all violent crimes should have a harsher sentence. I don't care if its a kid. They need to charge kids as an adult if they do violent crimes. Or charge them as a violent child. If a child commits armed robbery, give him/her 10 years. The one that died would have been out at about 26. Stop giving them breaks because they are kids. Stealing the rims off your car is one thing. Stealing at gun/knife point? Adult jail. Older criminals use the kids because they don't really get in that much trouble. Have the kids go away for 5-10 years and see how easy it is to get them to do it.

I said my piece. I read every post in this thread. Some I agree with and some I don't.

James

For the last time I didn't defend the robbers. Not once. Go back and check. The pharmacist broke the law with the second gun. Plain and simple. Well it should be but your not getting it.

Someone was talking about the adrenaline flowing and that making it hard to think. I had it flowing and could think. It a comparison on thinking while pumped up on adrenaline. And because the dumb **** behind me wasn't paying attention to the road he almost caused me to run over the woman that I was stopped to let across the crosswalk. Ask her if she felt her life was threatened.

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The taxpayers money was saved had the Oklahoman inbreds not been so shattered by the loss of a gangbanging armed robbing thug that had tried to kill their local pharmacist and decided to not only try him (insane ridiculous) but also conclude that somehow it was premeditated (10x insaner and more ridiculous) bc he sat up all night thinkin boy I sure hope I get a gun shoved in my face at work today by a gangbangin thug so I can kill him

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great point

I think we can all agree

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It's difficult to imagine he had any criminal intent even two minutes before he did it.

Why not ?
It only took him a couple of minutes after he had done it to come up with a story and lie to the police.

[mw00]

yes.

if the pharmacist had raped her, should he also go free then?

are you really that stupid? rape is wrong no matter what the circumstances are, you can kill someone for a variety of different reasons, some bad and some good.