Pharmacist kills gun toting robber, gets life in prison

[Kindred]

He did shoot him 6 times after chasing the other guy out of the store so I see how they convicted him but it's still total bullshit.

You go around pointing guns at people to rob them you get what's coming to you. No way in hell should they give that scumbag the same rights as an innocent citizen being murdered. You're giving the robber the rights his victims would have if he killed them, totally perverting the entire justice system. It's like giving bin laden the right to remain silent, total fuckin BS.

I can't believe they didn't give him manslaughter. It would still have been bullshit in my opinion but 1st degree murder. The prosecutor should be executed.

[Philavanh]

Shiet is whack. Guy did the right thing by shooting him 6 times gotta make sure he is dead. Especially in the heat of the moment probably lost track of how many shots fired. Surprise he didn't unload the whole clip on his azz

[Glitch]

what you guys are failing to see is that he had the right to shoot him to protect the store- even if he shot him 7 times in the initial confrontation....he did not have the right to execute him to punish him for robbing the store. that is the issue.

"he was just trying to make sure he was dead" is not a good argument. he should've been content with immobilizing him until the authorities arrived.

[Kindred]

i used to be a robber myself so i gotta take their side with this one im glad that **** got life i hope they give em hell for killing that yung boy

So you think your victims should be punished if they fight back..your a total pussy hypocrite. If you got put in jail for robbery you'd be crying about how unfair it is they locked you up..

I've done some ****** up shit when I was dumb and young and even then I knew the risks if somebody ****** me up or robbed me so be it, cost of doing business. This kid went in there to rob this guy with his buddy who had a gun. If the guy didn't pay up they were gonna shoot him, that's the threat they are making. You threaten to kill somebody you better be prepared for them to fight back. If not don't make the threat in the first place.

seriously an outlaw looking for protection from the law, for a "robber" you're pathetic

[FrozenMAN]

blacks AGAIN

both kids deserved to die

this pharmacist is a hero

+1....typical of america with this outcome........this country is going down the shitter quicker and quicker.....

the 6 additional times was obviously too much and if he was shot in the head how was the kid getting up?? but so be it.......and if they woulda killed the pharmacist they woulda got shit as "they's been dealin w lot of stuf, growin up n da hood and such"

[bettilimbroke999]

The guy he shot was not armed .. did you even read the article or watch the video ?

There was one guy with a gun (the one that got away) .. the guy that was already on the ground with a shot to the head who was not moving was never armed during the entire robbery.

If the pharmacist was worried about him getting up and attacking him (despite a gunshot to the head) why did he walk back past him to get the second gun?

He got the second gun to finish him off ... (premeditated) ... the guy he shot was unarmed, unconscious on the ground and had not moved since being shot in the head shortly after he walked into the store ... (excessive)

I've seen the video, like everyone has. Who gives a **** that he killed him? I wish hed gone fuckin pulp fiction on his ass with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. Whats he supposed to do 2 guys come into his store to execute him with a loaded gun, how would he know the other is unarmed? Yes if these punks had come in and just punched somebody I would agree its excessive but 1 of the 2 comes in with loaded gun drawn, if this pharmacist hadnt had 2 loaded guns at the ready the headline probably reads pharmacist and 2 employees killed in robbery.

Pharmacist deserves a 50k reward for cleaning up the streets and saving the taxpayers 200k getting brain surgery on that monkeys brain and 40k/year housing his worthless ass. This is why all citizens need to have guns, maybe robbers will think twice about risking lives for a 100 bucks.

[777_hotstreak]

So you think your victims should be punished if they fight back..your a total pussy hypocrite. If you got put in jail for robbery you'd be crying about how unfair it is they locked you up.. I've done some ****** up shit when I was dumb and young and even then I knew the risks if somebody ****** me up or robbed me so be it, cost of doing business. This kid went in there to rob this guy with his buddy who had a gun. If the guy didn't pay up they were gonna shoot him, that's the threat they are making. You threaten to kill somebody you better be prepared for them to fight back. If not don't make the threat in the first place. seriously an outlaw looking for protection from the law, for a "robber" you're pathetic

i neva said i was looking 4 protection from the law i hate 12 and everything they stand for but bein in that life u only fucck with people who do the same shiit u do so thats why i said that and the person he shot didnt even have a gun so wtf?? he just shot em cus he was black and had an "excuse" smh **** the law yea its fuked up that da kid had to die that way and im glad the man that shot em got what he deserved but where im from we shoot first

[bettilimbroke999]

i used to be a robber myself so i gotta take their side with this one im glad that **** got life i hope they give em hell for killing that yung boy

In this country I believe it

I wonder what the prosecutions witnesses said, yea muthafuka we been robbin and killin ppl all our lives and this muthafucka gonna shoot ma pardna, my pardna had lent his gun to my homie to kill some other folks and he wasnt even armed, I mean **** ***** that aint right, fuckin honkey pharmacist shoulda just let me blow his head off like we planned but he had these 2 fuckin guns man, shit you cant even rob folks these days without havin to worry about gettin killed

Oklahoma braindead jury: Yes, yes, ya know I never looked at it that way. Guilty of pre-meditated murder, hang him your honor and set those poor robbers free, they didnt deserve that kind of treatment

[Reno Paul]

The pharmacist went overboard, but he should only get 5-7 years in the pen for manslaughter.

[freeVICK]

I bet the pharmacist was black. That's the reason he got life in jail. Had he been white, he woulda been a hero

[marcoloco]

im sure the dudes adrenaline was flowing and he was in survival mode. he wasnt thinking of the guy who tried to rob him safety he was thinking of his and his co-workers, if the kid is already robbing people at gun point at only 14? most likely he would of had killings and rapes in the near future

[jarvol]

It was excessive but I'm surprised at the people in Oklahoma. I'm glad I live in a state where no jury would ever convict a man of shooting somebody who tries to rob him. Ever.

[bettilimbroke999]

im sure the dudes adrenaline was flowing and he was in survival mode. he wasnt thinking of the guy who tried to rob him safety he was thinking of his and his co-workers, if the kid is already robbing people at gun point at only 14? most likely he would of had killings and rapes in the near future

I thought he just wanted to rock out with his glock out and save the taxpayers of Oklahoma a million+ on surgery, trial and housing for this pos

Clean up on aisle 3!

[JohnGalt2341]

The Pharmacist is a hero in my book. Even if the Pharmacist was a black guy and he killed 2 white thugs trying to rob him I would still consider him a hero. If more lowlife criminals thought they might get executed on the spot every time they did something like this they might think twice before they acted.

[bettilimbroke999]

Agreed, though theres never been a case of a white robbing a black and approx 1.6 billion cases of blacks robbing whites, if it ever happened I would #1 have a stroke at the irony and #2 support the black pharmacist (there's black pharmacists?) killing the white gangbangers (theres white gangbangers?)

[King Mayan]

Agreed, though theres never been a case of a white robbing a black and approx 1.6 billion cases of blacks robbing whites, if it ever happened I would #1 have a stroke at the irony and #2 support the black pharmacist (there's black pharmacists?) killing the white gangbangers (theres white gangbangers?)

Ignorance is bliss but in your case it's depression and hate....

[mw00]

i dont agree with him shooting the kid again if in fact the kid is just lying there but i also disagree with him getting life. make an example for other wannabe thugs and robbers. live the clean life or you might just meet the wrong person.

[brooks85]

Its too bad for the pharmacist he wasn't a cop also then he wouldn't be in any trouble.

[frostno98]

LOL. Pharmacist got what he deserved. He should just follow the bank policy and don't try to be a Hero and give them what they want. I wouldn't risk my life for some stupid medicine or cash that didn't belong to me. If that was in my house then I'll shoot those fukers, but this idiot Pharmacist was trying to protect sh1t he don't even own. Protecting your own business property is one thing, but don't risk yourself protecting company's asset, it not worth it.

[frostno98]

He did shoot him 6 times after chasing the other guy out of the store so I see how they convicted him but it's still total bullshit.

You go around pointing guns at people to rob them you get what's coming to you. No way in hell should they give that scumbag the same rights as an innocent citizen being murdered. You're giving the robber the rights his victims would have if he killed them, totally perverting the entire justice system. It's like giving bin laden the right to remain silent, total fuckin BS.

I can't believe they didn't give him manslaughter. It would still have been bullshit in my opinion but 1st degree murder. The prosecutor should be executed.

Dude got what he deserved. Most robbery don't really exchange gun fire unless it's some kind of heist like the one in LA in 1997. Most of these robbery are simple snatch and grab. You give them what they want, get their description and let Law Enforcement take it from their. These thugs would of been caught as soon as the 9-11 call went out. Instead this guy did the right thing by shooting them, but him shooting the guy six more times shows intent that his motive was more than self defense. Because the kid was probably disarm and no longer a threat. Unless you wear a badge, you never guaranteed to get away with self defense.

[trixtrix]

1st degree murder is over the top, there might've been mitigating factors such as the shooting victim/alleged robber verbally threaten to return and kill/harm/violate the shooter's family should he survive, which would've in part instigated the escalating action.

basically, if the robber had shot the pharmacist point blank 5 times during the commission of the robbery, he likely would not have received 1st degree (premeditated) murder, so why should the robbery victim deserve that particular charge?

[frostno98]

If this was the NYPD, you'll get away with 50 shots on unarmed dude because you thought their wallet was a weaponUnfortunately for civilians it don't work that way. Only one kid was armed in the robbery and he ran out. The other one a 14 unarmed kid was already shot point blank, before the dude came back and put six into him making the killing intentional. Looks like the jury got this one right for murder. Whether it's 1st or 2nd don't make a difference since both carry life terms anyways.

If the jury had the benefit of security camera's like this case, I'm certain many cops would be convicted too in many questionable self defense shootings.

[Cap dat 4ss]

This isn't NY or LA, this is fukking Oklahoma. We take this shit seriously. Guy had every right to defend himself. There are likely only 12 people in the whole state that believe this guy is guilty of Murder 1. What the guy did was wrong but in NO way does he deserve to be put away for life. Maybe a few years, 5 max. The guy did not instigate this. He just reacted. The jury got it wrong here.

We protect the rights of the criminals while prosecuting the guys that pay the bills. Guess what, I'm sure the kids family will go on living in their section 8 housing collecting food stamps and SSI all while the pharmacist won't pay taxes. Huge win for society here

[kickenchicken]

lets protect the criminals...i call bs... these f.cks think there will be no repercussions for their actions and they go to kiddie time out for a few... thats what they get and ma cryin she should have been tending to her sorry acting kid that prolly learned it from his family

[wtf]

if they herded them all up like cattle and put them on a ranch in montana nobody would fukin care, the economy will improve and crime would be next to zero

[Mac4Lyfe]

The pharmacist went overboard, but he should only get 5-7 years in the pen for manslaughter.

Why are you guys sweating a life sentence? The pharmacist will be out on good behavior in 4 - 7 years anyway. The jury had to convict him. Actually, I would be more scared of the pharmacist then those robbers. That guy had death wish written all over him. Keeping 2 guns at the pharmacy??? I could see one gun but 2 guns? This guy was ready to pull the trigger on someone and luckily he did it on some lowlifes. It's pretty easy to see that guy was a little nuts. Probably his time in Desert Storm.

[King Mayan]

This isn't NY or LA, this is fukking Oklahoma. We take this shit seriously. Guy had every right to defend himself. There are likely only 12 people in the whole state that believe this guy is guilty of Murder 1. What the guy did was wrong but in NO way does he deserve to be put away for life. Maybe a few years, 5 max. The guy did not instigate this. He just reacted. The jury got it wrong here.

We protect the rights of the criminals while prosecuting the guys that pay the bills. Guess what, I'm sure the kids family will go on living in their section 8 housing collecting food stamps and SSIall while the pharmacist won't pay taxes. Huge win for society here

he's white??

[iceminers26]

The clerk went overboard in the video going execution style but I have never been in that type of situation, so its tough to determine the mindset at that time of the clerk, guy had to be all over the place. I do feel that if you are getting robbed, you are within your right to protect yourself, whether that means killing the robbers or not. You just wish the guy wouldn't have unloaded on the kid that was already shot in the head, should have just kept a gun on him while the others called 911. But that didn't happen and as I mentioned previously who the heck knows what his mindset was a that chaotic time. Sad story all the way around, 1 kid dead, 1 guy who just planned on going to work that day will now spend the rest of his life in prison, and the other kid will be going to jail, nobody wins here.

[Cougar Bait]

Pharmacist alive

Robbers dead

No jail time necessary

I guess if they were really smart they wouldn't have tried armed robbery to begin with, considering they were fuking awful at it apparently.

[mw00]

Why are you guys sweating a life sentence? The pharmacist will be out on good behavior in 4 - 7 years anyway.

ok i dont know how this works but isnt life sentence what it sounds like? how can you get convicted for life and then let go 4-7 years later?

[CarpeDime]

HELLyeah

m****rfu***r got SMOKED

yall though yall was gonna do the pharmacy? yall done GOT DID by the pharmacy son

yall wanna be all up in the game? game is real n****

sometimes in the game you get that paper

sometimes in the game you WIND UP DEAD SON

[Mac4Lyfe]

ok i dont know how this works but isnt life sentence what it sounds like? how can you get convicted for life and then let go 4-7 years later?

The more you read the story you find that this pharmacist was a head case. He lied about his time in the military, he lied that one of the kids wounded him, etc. Even so, he'll most likely get a short sentence depending on his behavior. I suspect he is a threat to society thus why he's going to jail. If he's not a real threat the judge might suspend the entire charge. I doubt it though because the details and the video really show a disturbed man.


Formal sentencing was set for July 11. The judge has the authority to suspend part or all of the life term but that rarely happens in murder cases.

Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-phar...#ixzz1Ni0EnOaj

Prosecutors told jurors Ersland lied to police about what happened during the shooting, trying to come up with a good story to cover his wrongdoing. They said he underestimated how much homicide detectives would investigate.
They also reminded jurors he had lied about killing people during the first Gulf War. They said his military records show he was at Altus Air Force Base in 1991 and never was in combat.
Prosecutors also reminded jurors of testimony Ersland had faked a gunshot wound in an effort to support his defense. “He lies about everything,” Prater said.
Box conceded that the pharmacist has said some “goofy things” and had facts wrong in his police interview and about his military record.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Another thing - these kids were forced into robbing the drug store by 2 older men. Those guys got caught and were convicted of 1st degree murder as well. Those kids (especially the one killed) looked like they didn't have a clue about robbing a store. The kid killed was struggling with his mask. These older adults force kids into doing crimes because they know that the kids will be able to get out of juvenile much sooner. Sad for all involved...

[Cap dat 4ss]

Another thing - these kids were forced into robbing the drug store by 2 older men. Those guys got caught and were convicted of 1st degree murder as well. Those kids (especially the one killed) looked like they didn't have a clue about robbing a store. The kid killed was struggling with his mask. These older adults force kids into doing crimes because they know that the kids will be able to get out of juvenile much sooner. Sad for all involved...

Both very good points...

[FrozenMAN]

Another thing - these kids were forced into robbing the drug store by 2 older men. Those guys got caught and were convicted of 1st degree murder as well. Those kids (especially the one killed) looked like they didn't have a clue about robbing a store. The kid killed was struggling with his mask. These older adults force kids into doing crimes because they know that the kids will be able to get out of juvenile much sooner. Sad for all involved...

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