Phillies overrated?

**BRAVES1985** · 05-07-11, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Beachy has more potential. I love that kid. p.s. I'm not a Phil fan. I'm a baseball fan (junky) who's favorite team is the Yankees, because that's my home town team

I agree beachy is a great story not even drafted

**gryfyn1** · 05-07-11, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

only 5 of their first 30 games have been against teams above .500

interesting

Braves Record vs teams over .500 4-7 !! seeing how there are only 6 teams in the NL over 500, most teams have played few games vs those teams.

here's another fun one!! Colorado has just one win vs teams over 500 ( they are 1-2)!!

**BRAVES1985** · 05-07-11, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by gryfyn1

Braves Record vs teams over .500 4-7 !! seeing how there are only 6 teams in the NL over 500, most teams have played few games vs those teams. here's another fun one!! Colorado has just one win vs teams over 500 ( they are 1-2)!!

braves are 7-7 but that col stat is funny

**ChileCheese** · 05-07-11, 09:33 PM

Atl has scored only 3 more runs this year than PHI and their team batting averages are right on par. So how do you get the feeling PHI has an AAA line up?
And if number dont back you up, and you fully admit that PHI has an overall better pitching staff, your conclusion does not seemed to be based on merit.

**icancount2one** · 05-07-11, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Utley is better then any player on the braves roster and they have been without him all season thusfar.. enough said...

This

Originally posted by Cranium

PHL are not overrated... will represent the NL in the WS

And this

Get over it, homer. Though sometimes they lay too much juice.

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 08:41 AM

guys by overrated i mean everyone is saying they will win 105-115 games and that is just not gonna happen

im not trying to compare the braves to the phillies. the phillies should be the better team they have what 70 mil more in payroll

im saying they will win around 95-97 not 105-115 it's not gonna happen

not in one post was i saying the braves are better then the phils

but i did say they haven't played many games against teams .500 or better but another poster pointed out there are very few teams in the nl above .500 (which is weird)

should be a great season right to the end

**CAC555** · 05-08-11, 08:51 AM

Hahahahaha. Braves fan. If you think your braves are even on the same level as this phillies team you are out of your mind. Honestly it's not even close. Forget the fact that they have the best record in baseball, but they have owned the division for 5 years now and they are even better this year. It's was hilarious how your braves gave a met-like performance down the stretch in august and September. I can't even believe you are comparing the braves rotation to the phillies. You are a HOMER! y

**Duby** · 05-08-11, 08:51 AM

I would not like to meet them in a playoff series!

**ryanjep** · 05-08-11, 08:58 AM

i dont think people have been saying 115 wins. their season win total was set around 96 if i remember correctly

**jjgold** · 05-08-11, 09:10 AM

they will be in world series because of pitching
hitting means nothing

**goucla** · 05-08-11, 09:11 AM

I would take the field against them

**dirtyphils** · 05-08-11, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

guys by overrated i mean everyone is saying they will win 105-115 games and that is just not gonna happen

im not trying to compare the braves to the phillies. the phillies should be the better team they have what 70 mil more in payroll

im saying they will win around 95-97 not 105-115 it's not gonna happen

not in one post was i saying the braves are better then the phils

but i did say they haven't played many games against teams .500 or better but another poster pointed out there are very few teams in the nl above .500 (which is weird)

should be a great season right to the end

we do agree on that '85; over 100 is a bit much. besides, they had the best record last season with 97 and look where that got them. even if they win over 100; means nothing if you don't win it all.

i think your frame of reference is narrow. will need to be at least double the amount of games to judge IMO. Or by the end of the month with series against the Cards, Rockies, Reds, and Rangers. I personally don't include division games as a measuring stick. Teams tend to play better against their rivals. If you do, then by that time, the Phils have another series against each rival.

that other poster is correct. inlcuding the Phils, there are only seven teams with above .500 records. Cannot count any team out yet though. also agree that it should be a great season to the end...

BTW...I'm a phils fan......

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by CAC555

Hahahahaha. Braves fan. If you think your braves are even on the same level as this phillies team you are out of your mind. Honestly it's not even close. Forget the fact that they have the best record in baseball, but they have owned the division for 5 years now and they are even better this year. It's was hilarious how your braves gave a met-like performance down the stretch in august and September. I can't even believe you are comparing the braves rotation to the phillies. You are a HOMER! y

lol i said as of today the braves have the best era in baseball i didnt say thats gonna last all season. im not a homer i dont expect to win the division and i never said they would. and last year braves lost chipper prado jurrjens medlen just to name a few down the stretch.

when they were healthy they had a 7 game lead. then the injuries came and phils got healthy and took over the division we had fukin brooks conrad and rick ankiel playing and counting on them in the playoffs but every team has injuries you cant use that as an excuse

NOT ONCE DID I SAY THE BRAVES WERE BETTER THEN THE PHILS learn how to read

**KACK** · 05-08-11, 01:19 PM

Best era in baseball with one championship to show? Dude.. You just started the stupidest thread to date... The phillies are not my team but Atlanta maybe the worst baseball town and this year the most overhyped team.. Phillies win this division by 4 games... Florida will finish second... When this Phillies team gets healthy you will see them trade Blanton for a RF bat - which is there only weakness besides injuries... Maybe you should start a thread about the Braves fans starting to support there team and actually go to a game.. I think the Phillies sold out 130+ plus straight games...

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by KACK

Best era in baseball with one championship to show? Dude.. You just started the stupidest thread to date... The phillies are not my team but Atlanta maybe the worst baseball town and this year the most overhyped team.. Phillies win this division by 4 games... Florida will finish second... When this Phillies team gets healthy you will see them trade Blanton for a RF bat - which is there only weakness besides injuries... Maybe you should start a thread about the Braves fans starting to support there team and actually go to a game.. I think the Phillies sold out 130+ plus straight games...

lol

1.I dont live in atlanta so i dont give a fuk about how many fans show up unless the money is goin into my bank account

2.i said several times im not trying to compare the braves to the phillies the phillies should win the division with all the money they spent on the rotation

3.i have been to atlanta and philly several times isn't philly the shithole of america? and atlanta is one of the nicest cities in the states

4. dont the phillies also only have 1 championship in the last 30 years?

5.you say the braves were the most overhyped team? now i know you dont watch much baseball every baseball analyst were jizzing all over the redsox and phillies since xmas

but you had a great post man

**InTheDrink** · 05-08-11, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

guys by overrated i mean everyone is saying they will win 105-115 games and that is just not gonna happen

im not trying to compare the braves to the phillies. the phillies should be the better team they have what 70 mil more in payroll

im saying they will win around 95-97 not 105-115 it's not gonna happen

not in one post was i saying the braves are better then the phils

but i did say they haven't played many games against teams .500 or better but another poster pointed out there are very few teams in the nl above .500 (which is weird)

should be a great season right to the end

Sick back pedal. Who picked them to win 115 games? That's as ridiculous as the original post. SI picked the Braves to win the East. Now THAT is overrated folks.

**beerman2619** · 05-08-11, 09:20 PM

Braves up 5 to 1 Eric Hinske with the big fly very nice kids. Braves bullpen so much better then the Phillies kids

**HoulihansTX** · 05-08-11, 09:26 PM

Philadelphia is the armpit of America.

Major overrated sports town.

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

Sick back pedal. Who picked them to win 115 games? That's as ridiculous as the original post. SI picked the Braves to win the East. Now THAT is overrated folks.

ppl all over sbr and the internet saying they will beat the all time record for wins

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 10:26 PM

nice job phils 5 runs in 3 games

and 3 of them were against a 20 year old making his debut

**tat1980** · 05-08-11, 10:28 PM

Utley will be in the line-up very soon

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 10:28 PM

phils finally playing some decent teams this month

now they face josh johnson and the fish

lets see if they can score more than 2.0 runs a game

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 10:29 PM

jurrjens > hammels

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:01 PM

really? how many world series MVPs does he have? its a shame, other then one bad pitch, hamels was way better then jurrjens tonight.. 7 more strike outs and 3 less hits in an extra inning of work.. not that you would be smart enough to look into it..please dont try to compare gold to sh*t again like your argument yesterday.

**gushman** · 05-08-11, 11:04 PM

gl philly...watch out for them braves. too late

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:04 PM

how did the braves make out last time vs hamels? pretty sure he has given up 3 runs in 14 innings with 9 hits and 17 strikeouts vs them on the season... thats only one more hit then jurrgens gave up in over double the innings, and 15 more strike outs

you really have no clue

**TrapperDapper** · 05-08-11, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

Sick back pedal. Who picked them to win 115 games? That's as ridiculous as the original post. SI picked the Braves to win the East. Now THAT is overrated folks.

Or it's just not being a conformist and making a prediction. The Braves equal if not better at every position except 1B and SS. The Braves have the best bullpen in baseball, and a very underrated starting rotation which has the best numbers in baseball to this point. The Phillies also have huge injury concerns.

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

really? how many world series MVPs does he have? its a shame, other then one bad pitch, hamels was way better then jurrjens tonight.. 7 more strike outs and 3 less hits in an extra inning of work.. not that you would be smart enough to look into it..please dont try to compare gold to sh*t again like your argument yesterday.

jurrjens 1 earned run buddy

k's dont mean shit its all about the W

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Or it's just not being a conformist and making a prediction. The Braves equal if not better at every position except 1B and SS. The Braves have the best bullpen in baseball, and a very underrated starting rotation which has the best numbers in baseball to this point. The Phillies also have huge injury concerns.

are your forgetting second base and third base and all five starting pitchers??

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

jurrjens 1 earned run buddy

k's dont mean shit its all about the W

I agree...how many world series wins does he have? wait, how many playoff wins does he have?

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

are your forgetting second base and third base and all five starting pitchers??

and best bullpen in baseball?

what is your closers name again?

phills have a better set up man as well

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

I agree...how many world series wins does he have? wait, how many playoff wins does he have?

hes 25 fukin years old

**BRAVES1985** · 05-08-11, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

and best bullpen in baseball?

what is your closers name again? phills have a better set up man as well

now your just embarassing yourself

you haven't heard of venters or kimbrel???????

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

hes 25 fukin years old

that is the dumbest argument ever... ok then, cole hamels had already won a WS MVP at age 24... now what are you gonna say? its bc of his skin color?

**dlunc3** · 05-08-11, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by BRAVES1985

now your just embarassing yourself

you haven't heard of venters or kimbrel???????

I know them both, but most people dont... dont try to put them in the category of best in baseball...come on now..