Way too much parity, way too many no name players doing well
So called stars all batting in 220's to 240's
Baseball is boring
Bring on CFL
bbyhill
SBR MVP
09-16-07
2991
#2
not as may on steroids anymore after that report came out
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Willie Bee
SBR Posting Legend
02-14-06
15726
#3
I'm enjoying the season so far, perhaps my trip up to NYC last week playing a role in that. For every veteran starting off slow there seems to be a younger player doing well. Can't imagine how anyone can find the game boring, but to each their own I guess.
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MJFtheGenius
SBR Hall of Famer
05-31-07
7257
#4
Gold you can't pick your way out of a paper bag
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#5
jjgold, it's hard to pick any sport. just look at the nba, bos lose 3 games to ATL? how about teams winning at home by 20 pts in the 1st 2 games, then going on the road and losing by 20 pts.. bos blowsout clev at home, then get blown out 2 games in cleve. this has been happening throughout the NBA playoffs jjgold, how can anyone predict this stuff.. jjgold, it's impossible to predict sports. jjgold, that's why handicapping means squat..
do you think the pro handicappers handicapped BOS losing 3 games to ATL.. or do you think the handicappers also knew that BOS would get blownout 2 games in Cleve.. jjgold, do you think the pro handicappers knew that since bos went 66-16 all year, that they'd be 6-5 so far in the playoffs against 2 teams who are a combined .500 this year.
jjgold, it's impossible to predict this crap.. anyone can win on any given day..
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The HG
SBR MVP
11-01-06
3566
#6
Actually Nicky, yes I picked against Boston ATS in every road playoff game they've had so far. I wasn't "planning" on doing that before the playoffs began, but I don't think about anything beyond 1 day ahead handicapping-wise anyway.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#7
Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
jjgold, it's hard to pick any sport. just look at the nba, bos lose 3 games to ATL? how about teams winning at home by 20 pts in the 1st 2 games, then going on the road and losing by 20 pts.. bos blowsout clev at home, then get blown out 2 games in cleve. this has been happening throughout the NBA playoffs jjgold, how can anyone predict this stuff.. jjgold, it's impossible to predict sports. jjgold, that's why handicapping means squat..
do you think the pro handicappers handicapped BOS losing 3 games to ATL.. or do you think the handicappers also knew that BOS would get blownout 2 games in Cleve.. jjgold, do you think the pro handicappers knew that since bos went 66-16 all year, that they'd be 6-5 so far in the playoffs against 2 teams who are a combined .500 this year.
jjgold, it's impossible to predict this crap.. anyone can win on any given day..
Nicky so true especially nowadays, the only guys that win are math experts that do not look at one stat except lines,line watchers win only, injuries mean nothing because factored into line.
Nicky I deleted every stat bookmark like Covers, statfox, spreadsheets, Feist, Ect as they mean nothing.
Nicky your sharp as a blade
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5 star bomb
SBR Hall of Famer
10-12-07
5370
#8
Cubs are in 1st place. Baseball is more exciting than ever
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pat venditto
SBR Posting Legend
05-07-07
14347
#9
national league is gonna win the world series this year. cubs/dbacks or the mets imo
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#10
jjgold, i have read about 97,436 posts of your 139,397 career posts.. and this one you did right here before me is definitely your most accurate post of your career that i have read.. so out of 97,436 posts that i have read of you, this past one here was your best and most accurate of all time..
jjgold, people make me laugh.. they say, hey, i love the over because the wind is blowing out.. yeah, that's why the total is 10.5 and not 8.5 like it should be.
jjgold, people will say, jake peavy is 12-0 at home and has not given up more than 2 runs at home in 4 straight starts.. yeah, that's why he's -285. you're paying for that, which makes the game have no advantage.
jjgold, people say that celtics will crush raptors at home they have never lost to raptors at home.. yeah, but they are -1600 on the ml or -14.5 pts.. which makes it 50-50..
jjgold, people will say, peavy vs webb, these guys only pitch unders. however, they seem to forget that the total is 6.5 un -135.. so now it's 50-50..
jjgold, when they say, hey bet against the red sox, manny is out, ortiz is injured, lowell is scratched, bet against them. well, guess what, if the redsox would have been -245 with them, they are now -135.. so where is your advantage. people think they are smart and have outsmarted the books, but in reality jjgold, they have not outsmarted anyone.
jjgold, you know me by now, i can go on forever and give you tons of more examples for each sport, but i am not that patient.
jjgold, that is why what you said is accurate. and people never seem to understand this.. the safest way to beat this game, is not handicap games at the right line, (unless you are getting a great line) the easiest way to do it and safest way is no matter who is pitching, or where they are playing, is just find the best # and play on that side.. even if this team has lost 11 in a row and are crappy, then chances are, you are getting +255, which now makes this team no longer crappy.. all this team has to do is win just over 28% of the time and you are up money.. how hard is this?
Throw away each stat like you said jj, cause they mean nothing.. jjgold, you are the sharpest blade on this forum and anyone that disagrees with me, let them come and see me.. keep up the good work..
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BrUno0
SBR Wise Guy
03-30-08
574
#11
Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
jjgold, it's hard to pick any sport. just look at the nba, bos lose 3 games to ATL? how about teams winning at home by 20 pts in the 1st 2 games, then going on the road and losing by 20 pts.. bos blowsout clev at home, then get blown out 2 games in cleve. this has been happening throughout the NBA playoffs jjgold, how can anyone predict this stuff.. jjgold, it's impossible to predict sports. jjgold, that's why handicapping means squat..
do you think the pro handicappers handicapped BOS losing 3 games to ATL.. or do you think the handicappers also knew that BOS would get blownout 2 games in Cleve.. jjgold, do you think the pro handicappers knew that since bos went 66-16 all year, that they'd be 6-5 so far in the playoffs against 2 teams who are a combined .500 this year.
jjgold, it's impossible to predict this crap.. anyone can win on any given day..
nicky is it worth it to line shop .5 point differences?
Like every time my local will usualy have the underdog a half point more etc.
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#12
bruny,
for nba, it's not enough, but not far from it.. it's almost breakeven, (almost), but not quite. you still have a disadvantage on the hold.. but if you get 1 pt.. you're laughing..
for nfl, no way a half pt comes close to winning.. however, if it's on the 3.. now you're laughing all the way to the bank..not even the 4 or 7 is profitable with a half pt.. but they do come close mind you.
The only profitable expectation on getting the extra half pt is the 3 in the NFL.. from 3 to 2.5 OR 3 to 3.5..
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Wheell
SBR MVP
01-11-07
1380
#13
A half point won't alone make you a winner, but is it worth shopping for? Absolutely! BTW, Nicky? That was an A+ put down of JJ. One of the best I've seen.
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betplom
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-06
13444
#14
Solid info.
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BrUno0
SBR Wise Guy
03-30-08
574
#15
Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
bruny,
for nba, it's not enough, but not far from it.. it's almost breakeven, (almost), but not quite. you still have a disadvantage on the hold.. but if you get 1 pt.. you're laughing..
for nfl, no way a half pt comes close to winning.. however, if it's on the 3.. now you're laughing all the way to the bank..not even the 4 or 7 is profitable with a half pt.. but they do come close mind you.
The only profitable expectation on getting the extra half pt is the 3 in the NFL.. from 3 to 2.5 OR 3 to 3.5..
yes i know, NBA half point helps a bit, although i wouldn't go against myself with an original pick because my bookie has the line .5 of a difference, most cases i'd sit the game out or find the better line.
NFL 2.5, 3, 3.5, is a big diff, same can be said for 6.5, 7, 7.5, right?
also what do you mean i still have a disadvantage on the hold?
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#16
bruno, disadvantage on hold, i mean is the book has the adv % wise over you.
also, i am assuming here that you are laying -110.. however, nowadays, alot of books offer reduced juice.. so if you are actually getting a half point in any sport and instead of +5.5 -110, you get +6-103, or +6-105, you actually can make money on this..
so half pt is profitable bruno if you can get the half pt and only lay -102, or even -105, and i'm talking NBA, too.. and on some #'s, even NFL..
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BrUno0
SBR Wise Guy
03-30-08
574
#17
Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
bruno, disadvantage on hold, i mean is the book has the adv % wise over you.
also, i am assuming here that you are laying -110.. however, nowadays, alot of books offer reduced juice.. so if you are actually getting a half point in any sport and instead of +5.5 -110, you get +6-103, or +6-105, you actually can make money on this..
so half pt is profitable bruno if you can get the half pt and only lay -102, or even -105, and i'm talking NBA, too.. and on some #'s, even NFL..
i get -105 on everything
except sharp lines, guy goes by pinny, but i stab at most lines early, unless i think the public will move a line etc.
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zootiehead
SBR MVP
12-09-06
1715
#18
Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
jjgold, i have read about 97,436 posts of your 139,397 career posts.. and this one you did right here before me is definitely your most accurate post of your career that i have read.. so out of 97,436 posts that i have read of you, this past one here was your best and most accurate of all time..
jjgold, people make me laugh.. they say, hey, i love the over because the wind is blowing out.. yeah, that's why the total is 10.5 and not 8.5 like it should be.
jjgold, people will say, jake peavy is 12-0 at home and has not given up more than 2 runs at home in 4 straight starts.. yeah, that's why he's -285. you're paying for that, which makes the game have no advantage.
jjgold, people say that celtics will crush raptors at home they have never lost to raptors at home.. yeah, but they are -1600 on the ml or -14.5 pts.. which makes it 50-50..
jjgold, people will say, peavy vs webb, these guys only pitch unders. however, they seem to forget that the total is 6.5 un -135.. so now it's 50-50..
jjgold, when they say, hey bet against the red sox, manny is out, ortiz is injured, lowell is scratched, bet against them. well, guess what, if the redsox would have been -245 with them, they are now -135.. so where is your advantage. people think they are smart and have outsmarted the books, but in reality jjgold, they have not outsmarted anyone.
jjgold, you know me by now, i can go on forever and give you tons of more examples for each sport, but i am not that patient.
jjgold, that is why what you said is accurate. and people never seem to understand this.. the safest way to beat this game, is not handicap games at the right line, (unless you are getting a great line) the easiest way to do it and safest way is no matter who is pitching, or where they are playing, is just find the best # and play on that side.. even if this team has lost 11 in a row and are crappy, then chances are, you are getting +255, which now makes this team no longer crappy.. all this team has to do is win just over 28% of the time and you are up money.. how hard is this?
Throw away each stat like you said jj, cause they mean nothing.. jjgold, you are the sharpest blade on this forum and anyone that disagrees with me, let them come and see me.. keep up the good work..