Is Chipper Jones as Hall Of Famer? (from '08)

[MadCapper]

SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1993 Atl 8 3 2 2 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .667 .750 1.000 1.750
1995 Atl 140 524 87 139 22 3 23 86 73 99 8 4 .265 .353 .450 .803
1996 Atl 157 598 114 185 32 5 30 110 87 88 14 1 .309 .393 .530 .923
1997 Atl 157 597 100 176 41 3 21 111 76 88 20 5 .295 .371 .479 .850
1998 Atl 160 601 123 188 29 5 34 107 96 93 16 6 .313 .404 .547 .951
1999 Atl 157 567 116 181 41 1 45 110 126 94 25 3 .319 .441 .633 1.074
2000 Atl 156 579 118 180 38 1 36 111 95 64 14 7 .311 .404 .566 .970
2001 Atl 159 572 113 189 33 5 38 102 98 82 9 10 .330 .427 .605 1.032
2002 Atl 158 548 90 179 35 1 26 100 107 89 8 2 .327 .435 .536 .971
2003 Atl 153 555 103 169 33 2 27 106 94 83 2 2 .305 .402 .517 .919
2004 Atl 137 472 69 117 20 1 30 96 84 96 2 0 .248 .362 .485 .847
2005 Atl 109 358 66 106 30 0 21 72 72 56 5 1 .296 .412 .556 .968
2006 Atl 110 411 87 133 28 3 26 86 61 73 6 1 .324 .409 .596 1.005
2007 Atl 134 513 108 173 42 4 29 102 82 75 5 1 .337 .425 .604 1.029
2008 Atl 30 119 23 51 7 0 10 29 14 10 0 0 .429 .481 .739 1.220
Total -- 1925 7017 1319 2168 432 34 396 1328 1166 1091 134 43 .309 .405 .550 .955

[JRS21386]

Definately No Question a Hall of Famer

[mofome]

[WileOut]

He is still doing it in his mid 30's with no help from performance enhancement. He was obviously not on it in the 90's either when everyone else was. He stayed the same skinny kid blasting the ball. There is no argument for him not getting into the hall of fame.

[Doc JS]

I'm a big Braves fan and a big Chipper fan. I think Chipper has been and continues to be an excellent baseball player.

While I think he will be an HOF'er before he's done, I don't think, at this point in his career, that he has hit any of the usual milestones that make someone a first ballot slam dunk HOF'er. He doens't have Schmidt's HR's. He doesn't have Brooksie's Gold Gloves. etc. He did miss one season early in his career with his knee injury. He did move to left field for a year or two. He has spent a fair amount of time on the DL over the course of his career.

I think he will get in...but if his career ended today, I don't think he'd be a lock.

Doc

[Kellen]

Absolutely, 1st ballot

[Panic]

Yep.

[Doc JS]

A quick scan on the baseball HOF:

Hall Of Famer Primary Team Primary Position Induction Year
Baker, Frank Philadelphia Athletics Third Baseman 1955
Boggs, Wade Boston Red Sox Third Baseman 2005
Brett, George Kansas City Royals Third Baseman 1999
Collins, Jimmy Boston Red Sox Third Baseman 1945
Dandridge, Ray Newark Eagles Third Baseman 1987
Johnson, Judy Hilldale Daisies Third Baseman 1975
Kell, George Detroit Tigers Third Baseman 1983
Lindstrom, Freddie New York Giants Third Baseman 1976
Mathews, Eddie Milwaukee Braves Third Baseman 1978
Robinson, Brooks Baltimore Orioles Third Baseman 1983
Schmidt, Mike Philadelphia Phillies Third Baseman 1995
Traynor, Pie Pittsburgh Pirates Third Baseman 1948
Wilson, Jud Philadelphia Stars Third Baseman 2006

Wade Boggs
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.328 2440 9180 1513 3010 137 1014 24 .449

George Brett
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.305 2707 10349 1583 3154 317 1596 201 .487

Eddie Matthews
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.271 2391 8537 1509 2315 512 1453 68 .509

Brooks Robinson
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.267 2896 10654 1232 2848 268 1357 28 .401
named to 18 consecutive all-star teams and 16 straight gold gloves

Mike Schmidt
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.267 2404 8352 1506 2234 548 1595 174 .527

Chipper Jones
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.309 1925 7017 1319 2168 396 1328 134 .550

Chipper will be an HOF'er by the time he's done, but right now, he's short in hits (about 800 short of 3000), HR's (he's about 100 short of 500) and RBI (he's about 700 short of 2000).

Doc

[seaborneq]

Hell yes, I think he is only the second switch hitter with a .300 batting average and 300+ homeruns.

[jjgold]

1st Ballot hall of famer

[WE EAT FISH]

ATL Braves

[luciano]

Yes, maybe a 1st ballot, but I just voted yes.

[MadCapper]

Congrats Chipper!

SBR votes you to the HOF!

[Weezy F.]

Yeah, first ballot

[coldhardfacts]

If there was any doubt about it before the steroid scandals, there is no doubt now. Chipper was one of the top players in the game during the steroid area, and did it without performance enhancers - at least as far as we know.

Another championship would ice the cake, but as far as I'm concerned he's a lock right now. As are teammates Smoltz, Glavine, and Maddox, and manager Cox.

[5 star bomb]

easy 1st ballot

[MadCapper]

I'll start a tougher one tomorrow.

[2Pac]

Aside from Pete Rose, Chipper is the best switch hitter ever.

[Doc JS]

Aside from Pete Rose, Chipper is the best switch hitter ever.

Let's not forget Eddie Murray. 500 HR's & 3000 hits. Chipper is a ways away from both of those milestones at this point.

[MadCapper]

Mantle was solid.

[Doc JS]

Mantle was solid.

**,
Agree 100%.

The Mick
AVG G AB R H HR RBI SB SLG
.298 2401 8102 1677 2415 536 1509 153 .557

[donjuan]

The answer is yes, but why do people insist on using silly stats?

[Doc JS]

The answer is yes, but why do people insist on using silly stats?

Well...the stats aren't "silly". They tell the story of your career and, for the most part, are indicitative of the kind of player you were.

Baseball, more so than all the other sports, is steeped in statistics. There are certain milestones, that if you hit them, you're pretty much guarenteed entrance in the HOF. 500 HR's, 3000 hits, 300 wins, as examples. Not to say you can't get in without those numbers, but it's a lot easier to get in if you've got some of those numbers and it's pretty hard to get in without ANY of those numbers.

[Stumpage]

I'm sure he'll be a first ballot guy when his career is over.....Regardless, I completely agree with everything that Doc JS has noted in this thread.....Everything.....

[badhunter]

I know him personally and bias aside, he's in with the first vote. He's only weakness: women (like me).

[imgv94]

Definitely yes.

[purecarnagge]

Nope.

[5teamparlay]

Nope.

IGNORANT

Great day for Chipper today:

ATLANTA (AP) -- Chipper Jones hit a three-run homer off Jonathan Papelbon with two outs in the ninth inning, capping a five-run rally that sent the Atlanta Braves over the Philadelphia Phillies 8-7 on Sunday.